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Why does it say in the Jewish Talmud "Even the best of the Gentiles should be killed." -Abodah Zara 26b?

For those of you who deny it, I'm going to assume you are listening to to the sections where it says Libbre David 37: "To communicate anything to a Goy about our religious relations would be equal to the killing of all Jews, for if the Goyim knew what we teach about them, they would kill us openly." and Libbre David 37: "If a Jew be called upon to explain any part of the rabbinic books, he ought to give only a false explanation. Who ever will violate this order shall be put to death."

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  • Anonymous
    9 years ago
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    Abodah Zara 26b: "Even the best of the Gentiles should be killed."

    Although there is no such statement in the Talmud, this statement does appear in a commentary to that page of the Talmud called, "Tosafot," which was written about 700 years ago. It also appears in a Halachic Midrash called the "Mechilta." Let us quote the statement precisely, however, along with its entire context. In Exodus 10:7 it says, "And Pharoah took his six hundred best chariots and all of the chariots of Egypt and pursued the Children of Israel." Asks the Mechilta, "But from where did the Egyptians get horses to drive the chariots, didn't all the Egyptian livestock perish? (in the plagues of pestilence and hail) as it is written (Exodus 9:6) "and all the Egyptian livestock died"? The Mechilta responds that they must have belonged to those Egyptians that "feared G-d," as it says in Exodus 9:20, "He who feared G-d among Pharoahs subjects brought his servants and livestock inside their homes." The Mechilta continues, therefore "the best of Egyptians, kill." Egyptians not Gentiles; 3,300 years ago, not now. For it was those good "G-d fearing" Egyptians that gave chase (or at least lent their horses to give chase) to the Children of Israel with murderous intent. There is another version that reads, "The best of the Canaanites, kill." But again, the Children of Israel were at war with the Canaanites. The Mechilta is describing a wartime policy of not sparing even the seemingly good of the enemy for otherwise you may fall into their hands. This is also the way the Tosafot commentary to Avodah Zarah 26b explains this statement; that it refers only to times of war.

    The Accusation

    "To communicate anything to a goy about our religious relations would be equal to the killing of all Jews, for if they knew what we teach about them they would kill us openly." - Libbre David 37.

    "If a Jew be called upon to explain any part of the rabbinic books, he ought to give only a false explanation. Who ever will violate this order shall be put to death." Libbre David 37.

    While it is possible that the book Libbre David existed I have not been able to find it, even with the help of a librarian from Yeshiva University's Gottesman Library. It was certainly never a mainstream book. In fact, it is strictly prohibited to lie about the contents of the Talmud.

    Let us take an extreme example and see the conclusions of some legal authorities. What should a rabbi do if a disgruntled pig farmer came to his house, aimed a gun at the rabbi, and said "I want pigs to be kosher. Tell me, rabbi, are pigs kosher?"

    R. Yishayahu HaLevy Horowitz, Shnei Luchot Habrit, Masechet Shevuot p. 33b (Jerusalem:1975)

    It is forbidden to change the words of Torah even in times of danger; one must give one's life over it.

    R. Shlomo Luria, Yam Shel Shlomo, Bava Kamma 4:9

    Rather we see from here that we are obligated to give ourselves over and sanctify G-d's name and if one, G-d forbid, changes one law it is as if he denied the Torah of Moses... To [lie and] say that one who is innocent is guilty or vice versa is like denying the Torah of Moses. What is the difference between denying one word and denying the entire Torah?

    According to Rabbis Horowitz and Luria it is FORBIDDEN to lie about the Torah or Talmud even if it means losing one's life. A proof is frequently brought from the Jerusalem Talmud Sanhedrin 2:1 (9b), Horiot 3:1 (11b). Another proof is brought from Talmud Bava Kamma 38a where the story is told of two Roman soldiers who were taught by rabbis the entire Written and Oral Law and found only one point to be offensive. Evidently the rabbis taught the truth about the laws to occupying soldiers even though the soldiers might find them offensive.

    There is a dissenting view, however. The Yad Eliyahu (responsa 48) suggests that even though it is forbidden to lie about the Torah or Talmud, when there is a clear and present threat to human life it is better to lie than to have blood shed. According to the Yad Eliyahu, the rabbi would lie to the disgruntled pig farmer until he is calm and disarmed.

    However, all agree that barring such extreme circumstances it is forbidden to lie about the contents of the Torah or Talmud

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    • KatalinH2 months agoReport

      I believe in freedom of speech. The one with brain will distinguish:) I rebuke any kind of censorship. If some can afford to hate, let hate as long as do no harm, just talk.
      After all the hater always suffer more than the hated. It a horrible negative vibe.

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  • 5 years ago

    I looked up Avodah Zara 26b, and I didn t find that quote.

    Here is a copy of it on English. http://www.come-and-hear.com/zarah/zarah_26.html#P...

    I have a question of my own - why are you Christians obsessed with lying about us? Does it make you feel better about your own religion? Even the Muslims don t treat us this way.

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    • Mike2 years agoReport

      Christians aren't impressed how Jews secretly denigrate Christ & Mary with obscene slander imaginable, this aligned with their notorious reputation for lying, deceitfulness to gain some perceived advantage, particularly underhanded dealings in conflict by tricking Christians to fight for them.

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  • 5 years ago

    Supposedly, there is also a teaching that states that a Goy is not a person, but rather a beast and therefore none of these laws from the Torah apply apply to them... Could be untrue, but that s what else I have read about it, only to muddy the waters even more.

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  • minx
    Lv 4
    3 years ago

    Kill The Best Gentiles

    • tek4 months agoReport

       

      If a Jew finds an object lost by a ‘goy’ it does not have to be returned.” (Baba Mezia 24a)

       What a Jew steals from a ‘goy’ he may keep.” (Sanhedrin 57a)

      The ‘goyim’ are not humans. They are beasts.” (Baba Mezia 114b)

      Even the best of the ‘goyim’ should all be killed.” (Soferim 15)

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  • Anonymous
    9 years ago

    Well, from a Jewish prospective, this is NOT a tenant that is followed by any of the mainstream sects of Judaism.

    Such an idea is contradictory to our beliefs, and to the Torah, specifically the commandment "Thou Shalt Not Kill".

    Don't worry, you are not going to find a Jew who believes that Gentiles should be killed. There are a few, but a few, and not easily accepted in our society.

    • Diego4 years agoReport

      There is a growing feeling in the Christian world that the end of times is approaching. True Christians know this is impossible to predict, but what is really happening is that Christian are expressing their love for Jews, read the forums, they stand with Israel and consider Jews the chosen people.

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  • 3 years ago

    Obviously because Jews hate Gentiles, and because non-Jews, according to Jews, are 'Beasts' and 'not human' that Jews think themselves superior over; so superior that Jews have permitted themselves to justifiably lie to, steal from, be racist against, manipulate, and kill non-Jews if it so suits the Jews' purposes.

    And because Jews have deemed themselves superior to Gentiles/Non-Jews is why (Zionist)Israel can so easily bomb, murder, and torment the Palestinians for their land without blinking in conscience, and may even gloat over it thinking to themselves "Stupid Goyim Slaves cannot stop us for we have them thoroughly brainwashed & controlled". Yet they demand sympathy for themselves over the Holocaust without ever mentioning that Jews deliberately waged war on Germany first, which effectively brought on the Holocaust, which btw is not what they've told us; but rather an event the Jews fabricated for their agendas' purposes, and to be used as a shield of victim-hood from Gentiles discovering Jews' crimes against humanity.

    Because while the Jews cry crocodile tears over the the misrepresentation of what the Holocaust actually was, people will fail to question why the Bolshevik Jews coldly killed like 60 Million Christians/Russians and sent them to gulag hard labor camps, and why the Protocols of Zion state the Jews in power are even willing to kill some of their own if it so suits to agenda of world domination; amongst plenty of other curiosities.

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    • tek4 months agoReport

      BINGO !! O “The world revolution which we will experience will be exclusively our affair and will rest in our hands. This revolution will tighten the Jewish domination over all other people.”– Le Peuple Juif, February 8, 1919.

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  • Melkha
    Lv 7
    9 years ago

    You have visited an anti-Semitic site, we are to treat non-Jewish people with respect.This verse is talking about informers and renegades - modern word - terrorists, that endanger the lives of others. Are murderers and terrorists those you wish to protect ?

    You are against security screening at airports ? You want to travel with people who are carrying explosives, guns and knives ?

    Source(s): The Talmud which I hold in my hands and have properly quoted from Avodah Zarah 1 tractate 52, 26b
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  • 9 years ago

    It does not say this. It sounds like you have gotten some bad "information."

    Here is a Christian website with information on what hate sites say about the Talmud:

    http://www.minuteswithmessiah.com/question/kkk.htm...

    • tek4 months agoReport

      you are spreading bad info!
      When Zion has the power:
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJRZkqYkJOM&list=LLDce547V5inWlwV6WRpHGmw&index=12&t=0s

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  • Kevin7
    Lv 7
    9 years ago

    That statement is false not from the Talmud, read the 10 commandments !

    • Tarn3 years agoReport

      Commandments apply to jews (humans) not gentile s (goyim, cattle animals are not murdered they are sacrificed) thou shall not murder (in fact all the commandments are for jews)

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  • 7 years ago

    That just goes to show that people need to turn off their TV..

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