Was the Church right in it's treatment of Galileo? (pls read b4 answering, thanks)?

I'm a Catholic, I believe in God, I believe that Jesus is the son of God, but I don't take the Bible completely literally, I take St Augustine's position on Bible interpretation, I'm not saying that the Bible should not be believed, the Bible should be read both literally and metaphorically, there are parts of the Bible which can be read as literal, and there are parts that should be taken as metaphorical, especially if it contradicts science, even the Vatican agrees, even if it took them 359 years to admit it...

We now know from science that the Earth moves around the Sun, this has been proven by scientific observations, and even the Vatican concurs, but this scientific truth contradicts a few Bible verses if it is read literally...

Psalm 93:1: The LORD reigneth, he is clothed with majesty; the LORD is clothed with strength, wherewith he hath girded himself: the world also is stablished, that it cannot be moved.

Psalm 96:10: Say among the heathen that the LORD reigneth: the world also shall be established that it shall not be moved: he shall judge the people righteously.

1 Chronicles 16:30: Fear before him, all the earth: the world also shall be stable, that it be not moved.

Psalm 104:5: Who laid the foundations of the earth, that it should not be removed for ever.

Ecclesiastes 1:5: The sun also ariseth, and the sun goeth down, and hasteth to his place where he arose.

In 1633, the Church used the literal interpretation of these verses to attack Galileo's theory that the Sun is at the center of the Universe, and the Earth moves around the Sun, but of course, Galileo had some error, he theorized that the Sun was the center of the Universe, but in today's science, that's been proven to be false, but the Church was also wrong in it's literal interpretation of these verses, the Earth moves, it moves around the Sun, the Sun rises and sets, but not because the Sun is moving, but because the Earth is moving around the Sun. Galileo took St Augustine's position on Bible interpretation, St Augustine took the view that the Biblical text should not be interpreted as properly literal, but rather as metaphorical, if it contradicts what we know from science and our God-given reason, while each passage of Scripture has a literal sense, this "literal sense" does not always mean that the Scriptures are mere history; at times they are rather an extended metaphor. The Inquisition of the Catholic Church forced Galileo to recant his theory that the Earth moves around the Sun, under threat of torture. But as he left the courtroom, he is said to have muttered, "E pur si muove (And yet it moves)."

The Vatican in 1992, after 359 years, finally admits that Galileo was right, that the Church's literal interpretation of Psalm 93:1, Psalm 96:10, 1 Chronicles 16:30, Psalm 104:5, Ecclesiastes 1:5 was wrong. The Galileo affair is still an embarrassment to the Church, which now maintains an astronomical observatory at the Pope's summer palace at Castelgandolfo...

Do Bible literalists honestly believe that astronomers are liars, that what they have observed and studied are all lies, that they falsified evidence to support their claims, that they have been deceiving people, and that they are trying to cover up the truth, because what astronomers have observed contradicts the literal interpretation of the Bible?

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  • 9 years ago
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    Neither the Scientific Community nor the Church had a problem with the heliocentric theory of Copernicus or Galileo that said that the sun was the center of the universe. It was when Galileo said it was fact without enough repeatable scientific evidence that he got into trouble.

    By the way, the heliocentric theory that claimed the sun was the center of the universe instead of the Earth, was also incorrect. The sun is the center of the solar system but not the universe.

    In 1741, Pope Benedict XIV granted an imprimatur (an official approval) to the first edition of the Complete Works of Galileo.

    “[Galileo] declared explicitly that the two truths, of faith and of science, can never contradict each other, 'Sacred Scripture and the natural world proceeding equally from the divine Word, the first as dictated by the Holy Spirit, the second as a very faithful executor of the commands of God', as he wrote in his letter to Father Benedetto Castelli on 21 December 1613. The Second Vatican Council says the same thing, even adopting similar language in its teaching: 'Methodical research, in all realms of knowledge, if it respects... moral norms, will never be genuinely opposed to faith: the reality of the world and of faith have their origin in the same God' (Gaudium et Spes, 36). Galileo sensed in his scientific research the presence of the Creator who, stirring in the depths of his spirit, stimulated him, anticipating and assisting his intuitions”: John Paul II, Address to the Pontifical Academy of Sciences (10 November 1979): Insegnamenti, II, 2 (1979), 1111-1112. From the Vatican website: http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/john_paul_ii/enc...

    For more information, see: http://web.archive.org/web/20071209222631/http://w...

    With love in Christ

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  • 9 years ago

    Actually that is incorrect considering how the Church had already accepted Copernicus' theory (De revolutionibus orbium coelestium | On the Revolutions of the Heavenly Spheres), where Nicolaus Copernicus dedicated all of his work to Pope Paul III. Opposition was first raised against the Copernican system by Protestant theologians for Biblical reasons and strange to say it has continued, at least sporadically, to our own days. A list of many of their Pamphlets is enumerated by Beckmann. On the Catholic side opposition only commenced seventy-three years later, when it was occasioned by Galileo. On 5 March, 1616, the work of Copernicus was forbidden by the Congregation of the Index "until corrected", and in 1620 these corrections were indicated. Nine sentences, by which the heliocentric system was represented as certain, had to be either omitted or changed. This done, the reading of the book was allowed.

    In all actuality the Protestants attacked that Catholic Church, accusing the Catholic Church of going against the Bible.

    Now here is a question, How can the Church condemn Galileo for something that was already approved? In other words Galileo didn't come up with the heliocentric theory Copernicus did.

    So now it all comes down to, what is the truth and what is the myth?

    Here is some interesting Information http://www.traditio.com/tradlib/faq10.txt (In the Firefox browser hit the (/) key or Ctrl+F and type in Galileo to jump directly to the article)

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  • 9 years ago

    I would like to be kind, but you are ridiculous. None of your verses say that the sun goes around the earth. The word sun is not even in any of you verses. Come ON! Use your head. Try and move the earth out of its orbit. It can't be done, and that is what those verses say. Just because the Bible uses the word foundation for orbit does not make God wrong. Those verses were 3000 years old and written in Hebrew. Who knows if the word orbit even existed in 3000 year old Hebrew. Give the Bible a break and don't make it say what it does not say and then criticize it because of your misquote.

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  • 9 years ago

    Bible is the Word of God. God speaks to us through the Bible, if not for the Bible how else would you know about God the father, Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit? Bible has a spiritual meaning, but fleshly people interpret the Bible literally. For you to understand the Bible properly, you must first be born again of water and the Spirit, Jesus Christ said:

    "Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again." (John 3,5-7)

    If you want to understand the Bible and be born again of water and the Spirit, have a look at the Bible below, we have free Christian book or ebook titled: "Have you truly been born again of water and the Spirit?"

    God richly bless you!

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  • hukill
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    3 years ago

    Atheists do not consistently criticize the Catholic church for one factor. For argument's sake, enable's say it quite is real that Christian trip journeys have been set on the dates of previous pagan trip journeys. So what? it would not make the party of the start of Christ any much less significant or valid. even nonetheless, you choose some information. The historic documentation to assist the declare that Christians stole this date basically isn't there. in actuality, contained in relation to Christmas, the opposite is shown. case in point, the earliest written point out of Sol Invictus being on December 25 dates from 274 (a proclamation of Emperor Aurelian). yet, the earliest point out of the party of Christ's start being on that day dates from the 365 days 202 (St. Hippolytus of Rome's remark on Daniel). for sure that's quite earlier Constantine discovered the scene. Likewise, till now than the date stated on the Philocalian calendar. So despite if it substitute into not however the "expert" date, it substitute into already being celebrated previous to any historic point out of Sol Invictus (et al) being celebrated on that day. it quite is a sturdy threat, then (Roman emperors being Roman), that Aurelian tried to usurp a extremely-held Christian holy day, particularly than any incorrect way around. additionally the Catholic church did not might desire to make it much less puzzling for pagans to transform by overtaking the pagans' trip journeys. Pagans had already changing in droves long earlier the expert organization of the Catholic church basically based upon the message of the gospel. extra, CHRISTMAS substitute into on no account a pagan trip. Pagans on no account had a trip called Christmas. So their trip journeys, despite they have been or despite they are presupposed to be, weren't stolen.

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  • 9 years ago

    To answer your question; no, the Church was not correct in it's treatment.

    Many of the methods that were employed during that era of the Church were not implemented even under the Bibles own standards. But, although the post did not highlight these points, the Church has been undergoing a period of growth and maturing in which it has tried to reign itself in under better Spiritual discernment in wisdom.

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  • 9 years ago

    isn't believing in the bible important as a christian? there is only one God!!! do not associate anyone else with him. your right what they did was wrong, your morals and consciousness are a Gift from GOD. proving that the religion has been twisted every 100 yrs or so to please the human being.

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  • Anonymous
    9 years ago

    Anyone who's done a cursory examination of the universe understands that god is imaginary.

    Galileo was proven correct and it still took centuries for the church to acknowledge that fact.

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  • Anonymous
    9 years ago

    The modern Church overturned the orginal verdict.

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  • Anonymous
    9 years ago

    Of course it was NOT right!

    But that is precisely one of the mayor problem with most religions... Their reluctance to changes and accept science challenges based on observations...

    One of the mayor controversy today is evolution versus creation..When will people wake up?

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