Coin flipping probability?
If a coin is flipped 20 times, what's the chance that at some stage their will be 3 heads in a row?
Thanks
8 Answers
- MathMan TGLv 79 years agoFavorite Answer
UPDATE:
I figured out a way to count them, which I'll explain at the end of my answer.
First my original answer, plus some additional numbers:
ORIGINAL ANSWER:
There is saying, if you want to know something,
ask a bunch of people (who may or may not know anything about the question),
and take the average of their responses.
Since we had two top contributors giving conflicting answers,
I thought I'd weigh in.
First Grade Rocks: = 0.6884...
Gianlino: 0.88420963287353515625 (exactly).
If you take the average of those two, you get
(0.6884 + .8842 ) / 2 = .7863
So I wrote a program which counted how many 20-bit strings had a "111" in them.
It was 825529 / 1048576
and that works out to
0.787028
I guess that method of surveying really works !
- - - - - FIRST ADD-ON: - - - - -
Here is a breakdown by first occurrence of HHH:
flip # ... count
1 131072 = 2^17 (H H H (17 more flips))
2 65536 = 2^16 (T H H H (16 more))
3 65536 = 2^16 (x T H H H (15 more))
4 65536 = 2^16 (x x T H H H) (14 more)
5 57344 = 7 * 2^13 ( [not H H H] T H H H (13 more))
6 53248 = 13 * 2^12 but too messy to describe
7 49152 = 24 * 2^11
8 45056 = 44 * 2^10
9 41472 = 81 * 2^9
10 38144 = 149 * 2^8
11 35072 = 274 * 2^7
12 32256 = 504 * 2^6
13 29664 = 927 * 2^5
14 27280 = 1705 * 2^4
15 25088 = 3136 * 2^3
16 23072 = 5768 * 2^2
17 21218 = 10609 * 2^1
18 19513 = 19513 * 2^0
Total: 825259
Here is some data for smaller numbers of flips:
3 flips: 1/8 = 0.125
4 flips: 3/16 = 0.1875
5 flips: 8/32 = 0.25
6 flips: 20/64 = 0.3125
7 flips: 47/128 = 0.3671875
8 flips: 107/256 = 0.4179687
9 flips: 238/512 = 0.4648437
10 flips: 520/1024 = 0.5078125
11 flips: 1121/2048 = 0.5473632
12 flips: 2391/4096 = 0.5837402
13 flips: 5056/8192 = 0.6171875
14 flips: 10616/16384 = 0.6479492
15 flips: 22159/32768 = 0.6762390
16 flips: 46023/65536 = 0.7022552
17 flips: 95182/131072 = 0.7261810
18 flips: 196132/262144= 0.7481842
19 flips: 402873/524288= 0.7684192
- - - - - SECOND ADD-ON - - - - -
Let f(n) = number of sequences with HHH among n flips.
Let g(n) = the rest (those with no HHH)
f(n) + g(n) = 2^n
or g(n) = 2^n - f(n)
Now what about f(n+1) ?
Consider the first n flips.
Either there is HHH or not among them.
The number with HHH = f(n).
We can add either a head or a tail to those, it doesn't matter since they already have HHH.
So those will provide 2 * f(n).
For those which don't have HHH,
some of them end in T H H.
If we add an H to those, we'll have an HHH.
How many are there ?
Well there is no HHH among the first n-3 flips,
so it is g(n - 3).
So we have
f(n+1) = 2 * f(n) + g(n-3) = 2 * f(n) + 2^(n-3) - f(n-3).
And from that we can generate the table shown above.
The numbers form sequence A050231 in O E I S:
- gianlinoLv 79 years ago
Suppose that a head never appears more than twice in a row. That means that the sequence of 20 tosses consists in
a succession of T,HT, and HHT. So the question is to count the number of combinations of objects of size 1,2 and 3 that make up 20
and divide the result N by 2^20. Finally we'll have P = 1 - N/2^20.
Let x_n the number of possible decompositions that make up to n.
1, 2 = 1 + 1, 3 = 1 + 1 + 1 = 2 + 1 + 1 + 2
So x_1 = 1, x_2 = 2, x_3 = 4.
Beyond this we have the induction relation x_(n+1) = x_n + x_(n-1) + x_(n-2).
So x_n = a*t^n + b*u^n + cv^n, where t, u and v are the roots of
x^3 = 1 + x + x^2
and a,b,c are constants. Only the real root t matters.
Let t = 1.8392867552
Then x_n - a*t^n ---> 0.
We start with 1 2 4 7 13 24 44 and then multiply by t and round up.
We get x_10 = 274, x_15 = 5768 and x_20 = 121415.
Finally your probability is 1 - 121415 / 2^20 = 0.88420963287353515625 (exactly).
Edit: x_20 takes into account only those sequences ending with T; For those ending with TH and THH we must add x_19 and x_18. Total x_18 + x_19 +x_20 = x_21.
So just replace 121415 by the next term 223317 and you get
1 - 223317/2^20 = 0.78702831268310546875.
Same as Math TG: 223317 + 825259 = 2^20
- 9 years ago
You do flip number 1 separately from the other flips
Odds flip 1 is a head = 1/2
Odds that it will be followed by 2 heads = 1/4
Odds of 3 flips in a row beginning with 1 = 1/8
Now the odds for the next 16
Odds that the prior number a tail = 1/2
Odds that the number is a head = 1/2
Odds that that you will have at least 3 flips beginning with that number = 1/16
Next for the overall odds. You calculate that odds of no run of three heads and subtract from 1
Odds no 3heads = (1 - 1/8) (1- 1/16)^16
Odds no 3heads = 7/8 * (15/16)^16
= (14 + 15^16) / 16^17
= 0.3116....
Odds of 3 heads = 1 - (14 + 15^16) / 16^17
= 0.6884...
********* Edit1 *************
lol, I can't count. The odds per my method should be
P = 1 - (14 + 15^17) / 16^18 ≈ 0.70790 ...
However, I run of 30,000 on a spreadsheet and got 78.36%. So it appears that mathman is correct. Why? I don't know.
- 4 years ago
The probability is number of possible instances of an outcome divided by the number of outcomes. So the probability of a coin getting heads or tails is 1/2. Multiply the probability by 1/6 and the probability of getting 4 heads and 2 tails in 6 flips is 1/12.
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- SteveRenoLv 44 years ago
this is so easy when one knows how
too much math, for me,
the others have shown and how many errors can happen?
thought so
so
for just an answer for at least 3 heads in a row in 20 flips
try
WolframAlpha
https://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=streak+of+3+...
there are at least 14 different ways to calculate streak probabilities
here is a simple way using a spreadsheet (recursion method)
like Google or Excel
here is the Google Sheet (have a look)
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1P3h7Rz2NBF...
look at photo or worksheet
cell A1 to A2 = 0
cuz we can NOT get 3 in a row with 1 or 2 flips
cell A3 = p^3 or .5*.5*.5 = easy = prob of 3 in a row in 3 flips
cell A4 = q*p^3 (q=1-p) no head on first flip but 3 in a row
easy
now cell A5 =(1-A1)*q*p^3 + A4
(1-A1) is the probability looking back that the streak did not happen on the 1st flip, followed by a Tail(q) and then 3 Heads in a row
and so on
cell A5 gets filled down to how far you want)
this is simple next to a calculator
- NoneLv 79 years ago
Given one head, the probability that it will be followed by two others is 1/4. However, there is a remote possibility that no head will come up in the first 17 tries. Correcting for this, the chance of 3 heads in a row is between 0.2499981 and 0.25
- 9 years ago
This is a long question that will take a while to work out.
Ive just done probability in my class and this would take a while to do.
Find someone who can do it and get them to explain.
- 9 years ago
100% chance, but only if your name is Rosencrantz or Guildenstern.