I was hired by ITT tech to teach English even though I am a lawyer. (The economy...) The school gave me no clue who or what I would be dealing with-- or that the students woud resent even having to take English comp. The book was a joke, but the first quarter I felt I had helped some students who just KNEW they could not write. (I am a published writer-- I can write!) The class size was small and I could help everyone. I was given another class at the last minute and asked to teach it without even having seen the syllabus... that one was ghastly, smart *** students galore-- but even there I saw some lights go on.
It got progressively worse. They never let me teach the same class twice, expected a TON of extra work, and never made sure I had any authority in the over sized classes. (For $1700 a quarter!!!)
Two weeks ago an enraged student shoved me into the hall. I dont think he meant to but I went down hard and was removed in an ambulance-- then told I was the aggressor and fired. I seem to have a real injury but they will deny my claim and if I file for unemployment they will try to block that, too. My having 30 students in class made them a TON of money-- not a word of thanks. Now this.
I am 60. 5'3" female, and have never hit or attacked anyone, ever. But I have now done some checking and indeed the school is...out of integrity,shall I say? They hired me because I had a pulse and students were flooding in due to the bad economy.
I saw reports with falsified data and other BS but I was there to teach so I stayed. Many of the students do not know how to behave--but the school will not educate them on that, as it might cut off the income stream. Accusing me of starting a pysical fight just about takes the cake, and you can bet this student is still there, thinking what he did will fly in the workplace. NOT!!!!
A few folks may make it, but it's a lot like the "how to be a millionaire" classes-- a few have the knack, but most will just be fleeced.
The fact that they have almost no full time faculty should be a clue. The REALLY LOW pay should be a clue.
And no, the credits are not transferable, and many of the students I saw will NEVER be cops or paralegals... ever, ever ever.
Yes, this IS a rip off.
Schools like University of Phoenix, ITT Tech, DeVry, Kaplan and others are “for profit” schools. Also known as “proprietary schools”. They tend to be very expensive, the qualifications of the instructors range from very good to awful and their credits are seldom transferable. In addition, most employers only consider candidates from these schools if there are no suitable applicants from a more traditional school.
These schools offer a lot of online programs and this is not to say that online programs are bad. They are not. Some are very good. Even the for profit schools can give you a reasonable education. My objection is that the education they give you is incredibly expensive compared to traditional and non-profit schools.
Other on line schools like UCLA Extension or Athabasca University in Canada are fully accredited and seen to be excellent ways to get an education. Basically, what you want is the online division of a traditional accredited university to get an online degree that counts for something.
As for going to the classroom courses offered by these for profit schools, even the claimed to be bachelors level courses the for profit schools offer are considered at best by employers to be on par with what you get from a community college. However, a community college will be far cheaper and community college credits are transferable to a 4 year university in most cases. Credits from the for profit schools seldom will transfer anywhere. The for profit schools even mention this in their TV ads, at least here in California.
I have heard many stories from people who have gone to these for profit schools who have been left with a bigger debt than many graduates from a traditional 4 year university while still not being able to get a job. I personally know a part time instructor for one of these schools and he had to quit after two semesters as he could not keep his mouth shut any longer about how expensive it was compared to a community college.