請問英文文法高手，有關名詞後接的詞性

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例句：Have a minimal grasp of the message conveyed

請問

1.conveyed在這裡是什麼詞性?是修飾a minimal grasp of the message 還是

the message?

2.能解釋這是哪一種的用法嗎?是子句還是那一種?

3.能換成conveyed messsage嗎?意思一樣嗎?

4.整句的意思是?

例句：He doesn't like taking a train full of people.

請問

1.請問full of people 是形容詞片語嗎?省略which is?

2.若改成 He doesn't like taking a full of pople train.意思一樣嗎?

Update:

抱歉!第一個例句少加了a listener will，整句是a listerner will have aminimal grasp of the

message conveyed.

Update 2:

提外話，可以問一下kevin大師004寫的......has had the sentence more correctly translated.請問sentence後面的the more correctly translated是什麼用法，是補充說明sentence嗎?

還是more correctly translated可以放sentence前面?

Answer 1

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例句：Have a minimal grasp of the message conveyed

請問

1.conveyed在這裡是什麼詞性?是修飾a minimal grasp of the message 還是the message?

conveyed是具被動語意的分詞當形容詞用, 修飾the message.

2.能解釋這是哪一種的用法嗎?是子句還是那一種?

conveyed在這裡是「後位修飾」的形容詞用法, 不是子句.

3.能換成conveyed message嗎?意思一樣嗎?

以本句來說的, conveyed放在message前面或後面意思完全一樣. 但是後位修飾有個好處, 可以後接與conveyed有關的修飾語, 例如: conveyed by xxx(傳送者)、conveyed from xxx(來源)、conveyed 5 minutes ago(時間)、conveyed through the Internet(方式)、.......等等.

不過不是所有的後位修飾語都可移到前面的, 有些可能產生意思的改變, 例如:

He gets a bicycle repaired. 他把一輛自行出修理好了.

He gets a repaired bicycle. 它得到一輛修好了的自行車.

4.整句的意思是?

Have a minimal grasp of the message conveyed.

對(已)傳送的訊息做個最起碼的理解吧!

例句：He doesn't like taking a train full of people.

1.請問full of people 是形容詞片語嗎?省略which is?

完全正確, full of people 是形容詞片語, 前面省略了which is.

2.若改成 He doesn't like taking a full of pople train.意思一樣嗎?

可以, 不過二個以上的單字要合起來當形容詞用時, 要加連字號(hyphen):

He doesn't like taking a full-of-pople train.

2010-03-29 13:09:33 補充：

抱歉打錯字:

他把一輛自行"車"修理好了.

"他"得到一輛修好了的自行車.

2010-03-29 13:13:28 補充：

第一句的意思應不是「讓消息透露一點出來吧！」

grasp不是透露, 而是理解或掌握.

2010-03-29 13:15:22 補充：

full-of-people, 上面少打了一個e.

2010-03-29 14:06:20 補充：

回答者001, 打字辛苦了, 不過我很抱歉要指出除了第二題的第1小題(發問者自己答對)以外, 其他恐怕都有錯誤.

2010-03-30 11:34:55 補充：

A listener will have a minimal grasp of the message conveyed.

聽者會對(已)傳送的訊息有最起碼的理解.

2010-03-30 11:37:39 補充：

Thanks for backing up, Kevin.

Source(s): 英文文法與翻譯經驗

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Answer 2

Long time no see! ^_^

(You are the Rodin I know, right?)

It's an interesting discussion you guys are having here.

I have to say that No. 3 has had the sentence more correctly translated.

2010-03-29 22:57:48 補充：

The point here is the word "grasp" is not related to "amount" but to "comprehension." So we can say,

I learned a minimal amount of knowledge,

but not,

I learned a minimal grasp of knowledge.

2010-03-29 22:59:01 補充：

That's why you can't have any examples searching the Internet with "convey a minimal grasp of."

2010-03-29 22:59:09 補充：

Therefore, it makes no difference here to put the adjective "conveyed" before or after "message," since it serves as a pure adjective, rather than an objective complement.

2010-03-30 13:31:05 補充：

版主您好:

您問的這句, 就是Louis及Rodin兩位所說的"使役動詞"的用法, 位置不能對調, 因為是補充說明sentence, 所以[more correctly translated]不可以放sentence前面.

2010-03-30 13:36:45 補充：

To 無極,

Well, what's right is right. I'm just stating the truth. ^-^

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Answer 3

例句：Have a minimal grasp of the message conveyed

請問

1.conveyed在這裡是什麼詞性?是修飾a minimal grasp of the message 還是

the message?

[說明]conveyed是過去分詞當［受詞補語］，屬形容詞性質。

2.能解釋這是哪一種的用法嗎?是子句還是那一種?

［說明］have是當及物動詞用，grasp是其受詞。這句是祈使句。

Have當及物動詞，意思是to cause something to happen or someone to do something.

3.能換成conveyed messsage嗎?意思一樣嗎?

[說明］受詞補語變成了修飾語，意思會不一樣。

如：He found his wallet lost.他發現他的錢包不見了。

He found his lost wallet.他找到他丟掉的錢包了。

4.整句的意思是?

［說明］讓消息透露一點出來吧！

例句：He doesn't like taking a train full of people.

請問

1.請問full of people 是形容詞片語嗎?省略which is?

［說明］是形容詞片語，也可以加上which is改寫成容詞子句。

2.若改成 He doesn't like taking a full of pople train.意思一樣嗎?

[說明］不可以將長的形容詞片語或子句放在其修飾的名詞之前，這不合英文語法。只有單字當修飾語時，才能放其修飾的名詞之前。

2010-03-30 19:22:33 補充：

對不起,

我把例句裡的have誤當成使役動詞,

我的翻譯因此錯了.

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Answer 4

... of the message conveyed中conveyed是過去分詞，表被動，前面有個使役動詞have，意思是:讓這訊息"被"傳達出一些吧。

你也可說 Make a minimal grasp of the message conveyed.

若不用被動型式，此句就是Convey a nimal grasp of the message.

... the conveyed message中conveyed是分詞作形容詞。意思是:得知這訊息中的一些吧(此句have=get)

full of people 是形容詞片語，必須做後位修飾。

2010-03-29 18:09:14 補充：

小弟一點意見:

2號答的很好

3號答對一半，第三點的解釋很好但跟這句子關係不大，第四點的翻譯有問題

2010-03-29 18:13:29 補充：

建議3號答者想想這個句型:

Have your car fixed.

2號答者翻譯為讓消息透露一點出來...透露乃是conveyed此字，並非從grasp而來，此誤解會影響翻譯

2010-03-30 03:20:34 補充：

Hi Kevin,

You are right! ^^

在此公開道歉，經Kevin大師指點，並且確認過字典後，小弟犯錯囉!

此句子因為grasp的關係，所以無法用使役動詞的角度來切入。所以3號答者是正確的。小弟會更加小心查閱資料，希望沒有誤導各位詢問者或是回答者。2號答者提出了很棒的講解，不過真對此句不是直接的回答。

As for translation, you are really a master, Kevin. I should learn more from you! ^^

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Answer 5

例句：Have a minimal grasp of the message conveyed

請問

1.conveyed在這裡是什麼詞性?是修飾a minimal grasp of the message 還是

the message?

conveyed在這句子中是動詞！只是因為Have的關係所以變成了現在完成式的時態。其修飾的是此句子的主詞：a minimal grasp of the message。這句子中的主詞並不是message喔！

2.能解釋這是哪一種的用法嗎?是子句還是那一種?

是的，這句子可以算是一種子句。因為它有主詞，和動詞。其實子句講簡單點就是一個句子！很饒舌吧...不過就是這樣...

3.能換成conveyed messsage嗎?意思一樣嗎?

這樣子意思就轉換了唷！因為這樣conveyed就變成形容詞了！變成是修飾message。變換後的意思會在下面解釋。

4.整句的意思是?

整句的意思就是：只有一點點有關於這訊息的資訊被傳達 （這樣句子簡單說就是＂有資訊被傳達＂）

若變成conveyed message，意思就是：只有一點點有關於傳達過來的訊息的資訊　（這樣句子意思簡單講就是＂有資訊＂而傳達的意思不見了）

例句：He doesn't like taking a train full of people.

請問

1.請問full of people 是形容詞片語嗎?省略which is?

是的，是形容詞片語。若加上which is的話就會變成：

He doesn't like taking a train ＂which is＂full of people.

2.若改成 He doesn't like taking a full of pople train.意思一樣嗎?

這樣就違反文法規則囉！就像第一題的解答說的一樣，which is 被省略掉了，所以句子才看起來是那樣子。形容詞片語跟形容詞不一樣，若是形容詞就可以掉換到大大說的這個位置上。

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