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Bob asked in EnvironmentGlobal Warming · 1 decade ago

Can anyone name ONE scientific organization that's changed its mind about global warming recently?

If things were really changing the scientific facts, wouldn't at least one scientific organization have changed its position?


"The World Federation of Scientists"

Nope. Their position has remained the same for years. They acknowledge that it's real, and a serious problem. Cautious endorsement of possible human involvement.

"The New Zealand Climate Science Coalition"

Nope. This is a small group, founded in 2006 specifically to promote global warming denial. They haven't changed their tune, either.

"The Association of Atmospheric Physicists "

Can anyone point me to what this is? Googling the title gets no relevant results. An important scientific organization without even a website?

Update 2:

By the way, the real killer for the American Association of Petroleum Geologists waffling on climate change (to meet the needs of the fossil fuel industry) was recruiting new Ph.D.s None wanted to start off their career with an affiliation to an organization that denied scientific fact.

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  • 1 decade ago
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    Yes. In June 2007, the American Association of Petroleum Geologists changed its position from rejecting AGW to a non-committal statement. Their statement now reads

    "the AAPG membership is divided on the degree of influence that anthropogenic CO2 has on recent and potential global temperature increases"

    The reason they changed it:

    "Members have threatened to not renew their memberships... if AAPG does not alter its position on global climate change.... And I have been told of members who already have resigned in previous years because of our current global climate change position.... The current policy statement is not supported by a significant number of our members and prospective members."

    Which is exactly why there are no scientific organizations whose official positions deny AGW. That position is not supported by a significant number of scientists. Not even those whose livelihood depends on oil.

    *edit* Meadow cites the New Zealand Climate Science Coalition, which is incorrect. The NZCSC has never had a position supporting AGW. It also contains no climate scientists in its membership, and only has about a dozen members. It's just a group of global warming skeptics who gave themselves a fancy title. They're also liars:

    The World Federation of Scientists does not deny AGW. On their website it states "The priorities in dealing with the [climate] emergency are...To monitor...Possible human influences on climate and on atmospheric composition and chemistry (e.g. increased greenhouse gases and tropospheric ozone).

    Oh-for-two, Meadow.

  • 1 decade ago

    It's not a scientific organization, but Exxon changed two years ago to admit that global warming is real.

    And although I've not seen anywhere that Roy Spencer has changed his beliefs, his most recent blog entry is supportive of Phil Jones' conclusions.

    There really aren't science organizations that have not acknowledge global warming for the past five years, there are really none that could change.

    With new research continually showing that trends are real and effects are already here, there is no movement by science organizations other than towards a more robust understanding of the details.

  • 1 decade ago

    The American Association of Petroleum Geologists (AAPG) used to be the only major scientific organization that rejected the conclusion the surface was warming due to anthropogenic greenhouse warming.

    They changed their position on climate change in 2007 because, "members have threatened to not renew their memberships ... if AAPG does not alter its position on global climate change"[1]

    The AAPG's position statement now reads, "the AAPG membership is divided on the degree of influence that anthropogenic CO2 has on recent and potential global temperature increases. ... In recent decades global temperatures have risen. ... Certain climate simulation models predict that the warming trend will continue... [the] data do not necessarily support the maximum case scenarios forecast in some models."[2]

  • martin
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    1 decade ago

    On the other hand, can anyone name ONE scientific organization that has told the TRUTH about climate change lately?

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  • 1 decade ago

    I thinkk most climate scientists probably just laugh at how conservative media misrepresents the facts and loves reporting the exact opposite of the truth whenever they can get away with it. Unfortunately, in the political arena the voice of science is going to get steamrolled by people who are really good at sophistry.

  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago


    The World Federation of Scientists

    The New Zealand Climate Science Coalition

    Okay - one more:

    The Association of Atmospheric Physicists

    The alarmists will probably attack these bodies. Of course! How can they be legitimate when they don't parrot the party line? Can't have independent thought, now, can we?


    EDIT -

    Surprisingly good post from Dana and Benjamin.

    Sad to see how a small group of activists within an organisation can launch a vituperative campaign to try and extort change based on threats of not renewing membership, etc. That is probably the way it worked in most "scientific" organisations.



  • endpov
    Lv 7
    1 decade ago

    I can't

    thanks for the information.

  • Shep
    Lv 4
    1 decade ago

    Recently? No. They're all smart enough to know that climate change is happening and quickened by human activity.

  • 1 decade ago

    Just because the facts change doesn't mean the conclusions have to change.

  • 1 decade ago

    Nope. Probably because the climatologists know it's happening, and the climatologists know best.

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