Jehovah's Witnesses, why are you the only Christians that don't believe in the cross?

And if it's cool, could you show me some biblical texts that show that it wasn't a cross or that it had a horizontal part that Jesus Christ was pinned to? Thanks.

And to everyone else, plz no bashing other people's religions. We're all different here. Thanks.

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  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago
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    Long before the Christian era, crosses were used by the ancient Babylonians as symbols in their worship of the fertility god Tammuz. The use of the cross spread into Egypt, India, Syria, and China. Then, centuries later, the Israelites adulterated their worship of Jehovah with acts of veneration to the false god Tammuz. The Bible refers to this form of worship as a ‘detestable thing.’—Ezekiel 8:13, 14.

    Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John use the Greek word stau‧ros′ when referring to the instrument of execution on which Jesus died. (Matthew 27:40; Mark 15:30; Luke 23:26) The word stau‧ros′ refers to an upright pole, stake, or post. The book The Non-Christian Cross, by J. D. Parsons, explains: “There is not a single sentence in any of the numerous writings forming the New Testament, which, in the original Greek, bears even indirect evidence to the effect that the stauros used in the case of Jesus was other than an ordinary stauros; much less to the effect that it consisted, not of one piece of timber, but of two pieces nailed together in the form of a cross.”

    As recorded at Acts 5:30, the apostle Peter used the word xy′lon, meaning “tree,” as a synonym for stau‧ros′, denoting, not a two-beamed cross, but an ordinary piece of upright timber or tree. It was not until about 300 years after Jesus’ death that some professed Christians promoted the idea that Jesus was put to death on a two-beamed cross. However, this view was based on tradition and a misuse of the Greek word stau‧ros′. It is noteworthy that some ancient drawings depicting Roman executions feature a single wooden pole or tree.

    Source(s): bible
  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    Did Jesus Really Die on a Cross?

    - What Does the Cross *Really* Symbolize?

    http://www.watchtower.org/e/200604a/article_01.htm

    The Gospel accounts all use the Greek word stau·ros′ when referring to the instrument of execution on which Christ Jesus died. (Mt 27:40; Ma 15:30; Lu 23:26; Joh 19:17,19,25)

    The word stau·ros′ refers to an upright pole, stake, or post.

    The book The Non-Christian Cross, by J. D. Parsons, explains:

    “There is not a single sentence in any of the numerous writings forming the New Testament, which, in the original Greek, bears even indirect evidence to the effect that the stauros used in the case of Jesus was other than an ordinary stauros; much less to the effect that it consisted, not of one piece of timber, but of two pieces nailed together in the form of a cross."

    At Acts 5:30, the word xy′lon, meaning “tree,” is used as a synonym for stau·ros′, denoting an ordinary piece of upright timber or tree, rather than a two-beamed cross.

    Quite some time before the Christian era, crosses were used in ancient Babylonia as symbols in the worship of Tammuz, the pagan fertility god. From there, the use of the cross spread. Centuries later, the Israelites even adulterated their worship of Jehovah God by thus venerating the false god Tammuz. This form of worship is refered to in the Bible as a 'detestable thing'. Ez 8:13,14

    If I might ask . . .

    If you were God, would you have allowed your son's death to occur on a pagan symbol,

    as though his sacrifice was for pagan purposes . . . ?

    http://watchtower.org/e/lmn/article_08.htm

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    Source(s): Check Scriptures Online: http://unbound.biola.edu/ {compare up to 4 Bibles, side by side; http://watchtower.org/bible/index.htm {read verses in context.
  • feld
    Lv 4
    4 years ago

    Did Jesus instruct that there could be a resurrection? confident. He mentions it again and again. John 5:28, 29; John 6:40; John 6:40 4. The apostle Paul taught this to boot at Acts 24:15. He grew to become even being judged by utilising the Sadducees over his choose of the resurrection. Acts 23:6-8. Even people in hell get resurrected. Revelation 20:13. So the doctrine of the resurrection is firmly hassle-unfastened in scripture, confident? Now if we 'return and forth to heaven or to hell' as right now as we die, what choose is there of a resurrection? Resurrection is, needless to say, for ineffective people, genuine? So if some thing survives death and is going to heaven, resurrection is mindless, is it no longer? because of actuality that resurrection is what overcomes death, then as right now as we are ineffective, we are conscious of easily no longer some thing, in basic terms as Ecclesiastes says, genuine? So there is not any contradiction, is there? Hannah J Paul

  • 1 decade ago

    Because we are true bible students; we look into the original texts, the ancient languages the bible was written in as well as the context of scriptures. Other christian groups don't go into things that deeply. They either don't take the time, don't think it matters or don't care enough to research.

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    Greek: stauros (torture) stake; xylon: stake/log; Latin crux: upright stake*.

    “There is not a single sentence in any of the numerous writings forming the New Testament, which, in the original Greek, bears even indirect evidence to the effect that the stauros used in the case of Jesus was other than an ordinary stauros; much less to the effect that it consisted, not of one piece of timber, but of two pieces nailed together in the form of a cross. . . . ” --The Non-Christian Cross, by J. D. Parsons (London, 1896)

    The bible uses the word "Xylon" which simply means “timber,” and “by implication a stick, club or tree or other wooden article or substance.” --The Exhaustive Concordance of the Bible, Strong.

    “Jesus died on a simple deathstake: In support of this there speak (a) the then customary usage of this means of execution in the Orient, (b) indirectly the history itself of Jesus’ sufferings and (c) many expressions of the early Church fathers.” ---The Cross and Crucifixion, Hermann Fulda.

    More Questions on this topic (Yahoo)

    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/JWquestions-and_answ...

    *Latin - crux: a ‘tree, frame, or other wooden instrument of execution’ on which criminals were impaled or hanged. -- Lewis-Short. A cross is only a later meaning of crux (see writings of the writings of Livy, First century BCE )

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  • 1 decade ago

    Jehovah's Witnesses are not christians, even though they think they are. The Watchtower teaches hatred of apostates (Jehovah's Witnesses who leave their religion) and enemies. Jesus taught us to love our enemies.

    That's why they don't use the cross like other Christians. They are different. They are perhaps the most dangerous cult in the world. They are not Christians. They're just pretending. : -)

    Research Jehovah's Witnesses on Google and YouTube.com. You'll be shocked when you find out the truth. Jehovah's Witnesses are very nice people but the leadership is corrupt. They teach they are the only true religion in the world. All other Christian religions are 'false' and part of Satan's organization They teach that Jehovah will slaughter everyone at armageddon except Jehovah's Witnesses. Evil? You bet. This is not what Jesus was all about.

  • 1 decade ago

    stake-one of a number of vertical posts fitting into sockets or staples on the edge of the platform of a truck or other vehicle, as to retain the load.

    Also nowhere in the bible does it mention that Jesus died on a cross.

    Here is a bible scripture that points out he was hung on a stake. Deut. 21:22, 23-And in case there comes to be in a man a sin deserving the sentence of death, and he has been put to death, and you have hung him upon a stake, 23 his dead body should not stay all night on the stake; but you should by all means bury him on that day, because something accursed of God is the one hung up; and you must not defile your soil, which Jehovah your God is giving you as an inheritance.

  • 1 decade ago

    To be "staked" in the language used during the writing of the testaments was commonly understood to be crucified on a tree-like small 't' cross which was the Roman method 200 years before Jesus and long after too. There is not a word for 'cross' in Koine Greek of the New Testament. BUT the early church teachers/fathers that wrote each other in their native tongue used the word for 'cross'

    The Cross is not

    an ankh (Crux Ansata),

    a tau (Crux Commissa),

    an iona (Celtic Cross),

    a swastika (Crux Gammata)

    a crucifix (Cruci Fixus)

    a Coptic (Coptic cross),

    an X (Crux Decussata)

    an upright stake (Crux Simplex)

    or any other form from the imaginations of men and devils.

    The upright stake on the other hand is very much a pagan symbol.

    Upright stake is:

    an Obelisk

    and

    a steeple

    and

    a maypole.

    There is not one reason to use the idea of upright stake except to pollute and deceive.

    There is a great deal of history revisionism at work calling the cross pre-existing as a pagan symbol. Well meaning but undereducated scholars included. The list of cross-like symbols has been given and none are the Christian cross.

    Young's Literal Translation

    Numbers 21:8

    And Jehovah saith unto Moses, 'Make for thee a burning serpent, and set it on an ensign; and it hath been, every one who is bitten and hath seen it -- he hath lived.

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    The translation of "pole is from 'NEC" in Hebrew and is split up in words used for translation even in the KJV (see link 1).

    נֵס - nec - Hebrew - Strong's H5251 - standard, signal pole, ensign, banner, sign, sail

    The use of nec here is given by the subject. Biblical Hebrew and history show that these were long poles that had a small cross bar near the top from which a banner was hung.

    Each tribe and family in the tribe had a standard that was hung in such a fashion. In the wilderness where this happened with the brass serpent the Hebrews moved from camp location to camp location as an army marching. Each tribe had its place and a banner by which those that needed to stop for any number of reasons while they were on the move could see where their family and tribe were and could rejoin. The same idea was during encampment each group had an area, a ensign with banner marked their location.

    (see link 2)

    The Watch Tower description of this is closer to the Caduceus or the Staff of Asclepius (and pagan) pole with serpent entwined which is as the symbol used in medicine today.

    (see links 3 & 4) Keep in mind that the serpents around a single upright pole is symbol of Hermes god of trickery, wealth and death.

  • 1 decade ago

    Here's an article that you may find interesting:

    http://www.freeminds.org/doctrine/jesus/did-jesus-...

    Here's an excerpt:

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    The Greek stauros is sometimes used to describe a simple stake, and other times a more complex form such as the cross. To determine what appearance the stauros took in Jesus' death, we need to consider what the Greek language tells us, what history tells us, and most importantly, what the Bible tells us... One cannot help but notice the series of events as recorded in Matthew 27:26, 31-37, Mark 15:14-26, Luke 23:26-38, and John 19:1-22 (regarding the death of Jesus) and their harmony with the method of crucifixion as described by the articles in BAR and other sources. It appears that Jesus carried the crossbeam, or patibulum to Golgotha. There, the patibulum was affixed to an upright stake, perhaps having a seat or footpiece, and Jesus was nailed onto the whole structure.

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    The cross is but a symbol, and it doesn't save us. What saves is placing our faith and trust in Christ alone for salvation regardless of how the cross itself was constructed.

    God bless.

  • 1 decade ago

    Here you go:

    THE cross is loved and respected by millions of people. The Encyclopædia Britannica calls the cross “the principal symbol of the Christian religion.” Nevertheless, true Christians do not use the cross in worship. Why not?

    An important reason is that Jesus Christ did not die on a cross. The Greek word generally translated “cross” is stau‧ros′. It basically means “an upright pale or stake.” The Companion Bible points out: “[Stau‧ros′] never means two pieces of timber placed across one another at any angle . . . There is nothing in the Greek of the [New Testament] even to imply two pieces of timber.”

    In several texts, Bible writers use another word for the instrument of Jesus’ death. It is the Greek word xy′lon. (Acts 5:30; 10:39; 13:29; Galatians 3:13; 1 Peter 2:24) This word simply means “timber” or “a stick, club, or tree.”

    Explaining why a simple stake was often used for executions, the book Das Kreuz und die Kreuzigung (The Cross and the Crucifixion), by Hermann Fulda, states: “Trees were not everywhere available at the places chosen for public execution. So a simple beam was sunk into the ground. On this the outlaws, with hands raised upward and often also with their feet, were bound or nailed.”

    The most convincing proof of all, however, comes from God’s Word. The apostle Paul says: “Christ by purchase released us from the curse of the Law by becoming a curse instead of us, because it is written: ‘Accursed is every man hanged upon a stake [“a tree,” King James Version].’” (Galatians 3:13) Here Paul quotes Deuteronomy 21:22, 23, which clearly refers to a stake, not a cross. Since such a means of execution made the person “a curse,” it would not be proper for Christians to decorate their homes with images of Christ impaled.

    There is no evidence that for the first 300 years after Christ’s death, those claiming to be Christians used the cross in worship. In the fourth century, however, pagan Emperor Constantine became a convert to apostate Christianity and promoted the cross as its symbol. Whatever Constantine’s motives, the cross had nothing to do with Jesus Christ. The cross is, in fact, pagan in origin. The New Catholic Encyclopedia admits: “The cross is found in both pre-Christian and non-Christian cultures.” Various other authorities have linked the cross with nature worship and pagan sex rites.

    Why, then, was this pagan symbol promoted? Apparently, to make it easier for pagans to accept “Christianity.” Nevertheless, devotion to any pagan symbol is clearly condemned by the Bible. (2 Corinthians 6:14-18) The Scriptures also forbid all forms of idolatry. (Exodus 20:4, 5; 1 Corinthians 10:14) With very good reason, therefore, true Christians do not use the cross in worship.

    Is veneration of the cross a Scriptural practice?

    1 Cor. 10:14: “My beloved ones, flee from idolatry.” (An idol is an image or symbol that is an object of intense devotion, veneration, or worship.)

    Ex. 20:4, 5, JB: “You shall not make yourself a carved image or any likeness of anything in heaven or on earth beneath or in the waters under the earth; you shall not bow down to them or serve them.” (Notice that God commanded that his people not even make an image before which people would bow down.)

    Of interest is this comment in the New Catholic Encyclopedia: “The representation of Christ’s redemptive death on Golgotha does not occur in the symbolic art of the first Christian centuries. The early Christians, influenced by the Old Testament prohibition of graven images, were reluctant to depict even the instrument of the Lord’s Passion.”—(1967), Vol. IV, p. 486.

    Concerning first-century Christians, History of the Christian Church says: “There was no use of the crucifix and no material representation of the cross.”—(New York, 1897), J. F. Hurst, Vol. I, p. 366.

    Does it really make any difference if a person cherishes a cross, as long as he does not worship it?

    How would you feel if one of your dearest friends was executed on the basis of false charges? Would you make a replica of the instrument of execution? Would you cherish it, or would you rather shun it?

    In ancient Israel, unfaithful Jews wept over the death of the false god Tammuz. Jehovah spoke of what they were doing as being a ‘detestable thing.’ (Ezek. 8:13, 14) According to history, Tammuz was a Babylonian god, and the cross was used as his symbol. From its beginning in the days of Nimrod, Babylon was against Jehovah and an enemy of true worship. (Gen. 10:8-10; Jer. 50:29) So by cherishing the cross, a person is honoring a symbol of worship that is opposed to the true God.

    As stated at Ezekiel 8:17, apostate Jews also ‘thrust out the shoot to Jehovah’s nose.’ He viewed this as “detestable” and ‘offensive.’ Why? This “shoot,” some commentators explain, was a representation of the male sex organ, used in phallic worship. How, then, must Jehovah view the use of the cross, which, as we have seen, was anciently used as a symbol in phallic wor

    Source(s): Book: What Does The Bible Really Teach published by the Watchtower Bible and Trach Society. See www.watchtower.org
  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    Because in the bible it says that he was murdered on a torture stake. Not a cross. Other christians are just wanting another idol to worship. He died on something on a pole or tree.

    Source(s): I'm a Jehovah's Witness
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