Please help w/ alkatraz info!?
Who were Clarance Carnes siblings, and was Polly Carnes one of them or was he related to her at all? im not sure if thats the correct spelling of her name... Please help!
- jan51601Lv 71 decade agoFavorite Answer
Clarence Victor "The Choctaw Kid" Carnes (January 14, 1927 – October 3, 1988) was a Choctaw
Indian famous as the youngest inmate sentenced to Alcatraz, and for his participation in the bloody
escape attempt known as the "Battle of Alcatraz".
Clarence Carnes was born in Daisy, Oklahoma, the oldest of five children. He was sentenced to life imprisonment at the age of 16 for the murder of a garage attendant during an attempted hold-up. In early 1945, he escaped from the Granite Reformatory with a number of other prisoners, but was recaptured and sentenced to an additional 99 years for a kidnapping carried out while he was on the run. He was recaptured in April 1945 and sent to Leavenworth, but made another attempt to escape while in the custody of the United States Marshals Service and was transferred to Alcatraz along with an additional 5-year sentence.
Carnes arrived on Alcatraz on July 8, 1945. On May 2, 1946, Carnes and five other inmates participated in a failed attempt to escape from Alcatraz which turned into the bloody "Battle of Alcatraz", so-called because three inmates and two prison officers died. After the escape failed, he was tried for murder along with the two other survivors, Sam Shockley and Miran Edgar Thompson, and was found guilty of participating in the plot. Shockley and Thompson were sentenced to death, while Carnes was given a 99-year sentence instead of death, because he had not directly participated in the murder of the officers. Carnes remained on Alcatraz until its closure in 1963, spending most of the time there in the segregation unit.
Despite having been given a life sentence in Oklahoma for murder, as well as a sentence of 203 years on federal charges, Carnes was paroled in 1973 at the age of 46. However, his parole was revoked twice due to parole violations and he was sent back to prison. He died of AIDS-related complications on October 3, 1988 at the Medical Center for Federal Prisoners in Springfield, Missouri, and was buried in a paupers' grave (in other words, he was a penniless person buried by the Board of Guardians at the public's expense). In early 1989, James J. "Whitey" Bulger who had befriended Carnes while on Alcatraz, paid for his body to be exhumed and reburied on Indian land in Oklahoma. Bulger reportedly bought a lavish $4,000 bronze casket and hired a car to transport Carnes' remains from Missouri to Oklahoma.
http://www.ancestry.com --1930 United States Federal Census
Name: Clarence V Carnes
Home in 1930: Ti, Pittsburg, Oklahoma
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1928
Relation to Head of House: Son
Father's Name: Simmie
Mother's Name: Mittie
Household Members: Name Age
Simmie** Carnes 26 (**a family tree listing showed his name as JAMES, so I would bet this is meant to be JIMMIE instead)
Mittie Carnes 20
Clarence V Carnes 2 3/12 (2 yrs 3 mon)
Bingnann Carnes 11/12 (11 mon)--could be his name was BINGHAM. Original view very hard to read.
Burial: Clarence Victor Carnes
Atoka County,Oklahoma, USA
Find A Grave Memorial# 27921067
(Has 3 pictures of him. Says virtual flowers feature has been turned off because of constant misuse)
FATHER: James Carnes
b: 7 Oct 1903 ,Sardis, Oklahoma
d. 6 Apr 1972, in Oakland, Alameda, California
Married 1st to
Alice Gibson (1907 – 1988)--They had 4 daughters, 3 of whom still living. Other was Betty Jo Carnes (1944 – 1981)
2nd wife, and Clarence's mother unknown (1930 census, however, shows her first name as MITTIE).
(So, unless Polly is among the 3 living daughters above, I have no idea. I could not find her listed anywhere.)Source(s): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clarence_Carnes http://www.ancestry.com http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&G...
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