What's the big deal about global warming?

Global warming is all fake, in the last 100 years the arverage temp has gone up 0.6C thats its the temperature difference is great than that when i got on holiday. Secondly since ice displaces its own weight in water, the ice caps melting will raise sea level less than a foot. Its not gonna flood half the world like everyone thinks. All the temperature that are recorded are all done from urban areas anyway making results invalde. Now I am first to admit the earth is heating up but it does, every 30 years or so the earth heats up for a bit then cools for another 30, weve just entered the heating bit. This is proved if you look at the old newspaper heatlines. Also saying the poles has record low of ice is true, at the north pole. Antartica currently has record high levels of ice. Not to mention most of the pictures you see are photoshoped there now real photos. The statisics your given lie. They measure todays temperature against record LOW temperatures takes 70 years age and call that normal thats why they say the temperatures risen so much. So bearing in mind all these facts, why do goverments see fit to spend billions trying to solve a problem were not causing, we cant fix and wont greatly affect us anyway.

Additionally yes there will be some effect at the end of this 30 years but it will be minimal, and I do belive in green living but thats due to lack of resources not global warming (they are SEPERATE ISSUES)

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  • Trevor
    Lv 7
    1 decade ago
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    >>> Global warming is all fake, in the last 100 years the arverage temp has gone up 0.6C thats its the temperature difference is great than that when i got on holiday. <<<

    The avergae global temp has gone up by approx 0.8C, If we take away the anthropogenic compenent then the average global temp - attributable solely to natural fluctuations - should have gone down. Not only have we increased the temp but we have done so to such an extent that it's negated the fall in temps we should have experienced. Furtherr, the rate of warming is accelerating and across the baseline period to present the rise is 0.0177C per year and increasing.

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    >>> Secondly since ice displaces its own weight in water, the ice caps melting will raise sea level less than a foot. Its not gonna flood half the world like everyone thinks. <<<

    If floating ice melts then it makes no difference to sea levels so it wouldn't raise sea levels at all. But... whilst the Arctic ice is floating, the infinitely larger Antarctic and Greenland ice masses are on land. It's from here that nearly a billion tons of ice is melting each year and making it's way into the seas and oceans. Presently this is causing sea-levels to rise by 1.5mm a year. However, the greatest contributor to sea level rises is caused by thermal expansion - 1.6mm a year; if no ice at all were to melt then the sea levels would still rise. Also, you need to take into account isostatic rebound, this is also casusing a rise in sea levels - currently of 0.1mm a year. Just for the record, back in 2006 I conducted quite extensive research into the melting of the planet's ice - if it were all to melt (it won't for millenia) then global sea levels would rise by 84.02 metres (approx 250 feet)

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    <<< All the temperature that are recorded are all done from urban areas anyway making results invalde. >>>

    Using satellite telemetry, temperatures are taken right across the planet's surface - be it on land, at sea, the highest mountains, the deepest valleys, the largest cities or the smallest villages. The comprehensive global temperature record stretches back to 1851, throughout this entire period the data used has been obtained from a multitude of sources including a vast number of readings taken from ships.

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    <<< Now I am first to admit the earth is heating up but it does, every 30 years or so the earth heats up for a bit then cools for another 30, weve just entered the heating bit. >>>

    Far, far, far more complicated than that. There are a whole series of cycles that lead to natural warming and cooling. They vary in duration from 2 years to 125,000,000 years (none of them are 30 years). The Earth has in fact been heating up for over 150 years. If we look at the last 30 years then every year the temperatures have been above the baseline average. The most notable thing about the past 30 years is that the planet should have cooled in accordance with the decreased heat received from the Sun over that period of time.

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    <<< This is proved if you look at the old newspaper heatlines. >>>

    Actually it's not. Back in the 1970's the media ran with the idea that the planet was cooling, for a while they did. This was the result of massive amounts of particulate matter being pumped into the atmosphere by the uncontrolled burning of material for power stations, domestic consumption etc. The 'soot' filtered the sunlight and the planet received less warming that would ordinarily have happened. Exactly the same thing happens following large volcanic eruptions.

    This wasn't someting new, the pollution had been spewed out for decades. It culminated with the deaths of several thousand people in London (between 4,500 and 18,000 depending on the source) and this led to the first of the Clean Air Acts being passed. As more acts have been passed globally the amount of particulate matter has dropped dramatically. Ironically this paved the way for the underlying warming to come to the fore.

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    <<< Also saying the poles has record low of ice is true, at the north pole. Antartica currently has record high levels of ice. >>>

    Can't comment on the statement regarding the North Pole as I don't know the precise present extent of ice - I know it's less extensive than it should be. Antarctica however does not have record high levels of ice - there are certain regions within the interior where levels may be their highest but these are in regions so cold that the ice never melts - it simply accumulates until it's carried to the periphery by glacial action. Taken as a while the Antarctic ice mass is reducing by 220 million tons a year (2007 figure - the latest one).

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    <<< Not to mention most of the pictures you see are photoshoped there now real photos. >>>

    Some of them may well be but if you care to give me your e-mail address I can forward you hundreds of my own, completely undoctored, photos from Antarctica, the Arctic, Greenland &c. And, in any event, how would that explain somewhere such as Glacier National Park. There's now only 4 glaciers left and that's just one of thousands of examples of things that people can see with their own eyes.

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    << The statisics your given lie. >>

    I have systematically gone through each and every statement you have made and shown that it is incorrect. I challenge you to find one single error (other than spelling and garmmer) in my response.

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    << They measure todays temperature against record LOW temperatures takes 70 years age and call that normal thats why they say the temperatures risen so much. >>

    No they don't. The Americans use the GISTemp baseline which covers the period 1951 to 1981, elsewhere we use the HadCRUT baseline which covers 1961 to 1991.

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    <<< So bearing in mind all these facts, >>>

    Unfortunately, all of which are wrong

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    <<< why do goverments see fit to spend billions trying to solve a problem were not causing, we cant fix and wont greatly affect us anyway. >>>

    1) Clearly we are contributing significantly to the problem. 2) We can go someway to fixing it although I agree that it's not something we can fully resolve 3) In the US and Europe we're cushioned from the biggest effects of global warming and can mitigate against many of the consequences. The hardest hit nations will be the African and Asian ones. Already hundreds of millions of people have been affected, it's estimated that by 2050 more than 2 billion will be seriously affected and the problem is only set to get worse after that.

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    <<< Additionally yes there will be some effect at the end of this 30 years but it will be minimal, >>>

    Can I just ask - why do you state that the world is about to warm naturally when so many of the other deniers are saying the opposite. You've adopted a stance which is contradictory to everyone

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    <<< and I do belive in green living but thats due to lack of resources not global warming (they are SEPERATE ISSUES) >>>

    Glad to hear it, I knew there'd be something we could agree on.

    Source(s): I'm a climatologist
  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    Sorry but global warming ceased almost 10 years ago and global cooling started 3 years ago when the sun went into the deepest solar minimum ever documented. Currently major scientists are concerned about just how serious the current solar minimum is and how long it is going to last. Some feel it is only a minor 30 year cooling off period like the Dalton minimum of the early 1800s when they held easter parties on the ice of the Thames river in London. More feel because of the extreme low activity level of the sun we are in for a Maunder minimum that marked the coldest period of the little ice age in the 2nd half of the17th century. A smaller number of the best scientist's keep pointing out just how quiet the sun has become and that time wise we are currently right in the middle between the longest and shortest climate optimums on record and so they feel it is highly possible we could be returning to a full fledged ice age kike we exited about 13,000 years ago.

    Some scientific information revealing the truth about global warming, when it happened and what probably caused it.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:0Master_Past_200...

    http://www.geocraft.com/WVFossils/global_warming.h...

    http://www.geocraft.com/WVFossils/greenhouse_data....

    http://reasonmclucus.tripod.com/CO2myth.html

    http://mc-computing.com/qs/Global_Warming/Atmosphe...

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_variation

    Where the heat came from and why it was abnormally cold previously

    http://www.ac.wwu.edu/~dbunny/research/global/215....

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_cycle

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_minimum

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maunder_Minimum

  • 1 decade ago

    Sorry but global warming ended 10 years ago at the peak of the last solar cycle. And it switched to global cooling 3 years ago when the sun shut down all major activity and went into the coolest mode ever scientifically documented. Up until 1998 the world was receiving a slightly above normal amount of power from the sun causing the planet to warm slightly. Since the sun went into standby mode 3 years ago all the planets are cooling because the sun is no longer putting out enough power to keep them as warm anymore. Where as before we received about 2% more power than we really needed and so warmed slightly we now are receiving between 5% and 10% less than we need to maintain a comfortable climate.

    The question now concerning scientists is how rapidly will the planet cool off and just how cold could it get. Currently unless the sun warms up just a little we could reach a little ice age Dalton minimum in between 5 to 8 years or an even colder Maunder condition in about 10 to 12 years. But then the political left is not mentally bright enough to realize this as yet and so continue to preach AGW that has gained them political supremacy recently. But as the world cools towards a new ice age in the very near future soon even the dumbest will eventually realize that AGW was politics not fact and so dump the crooked Rockefeller propaganda machine that almost restored slavery with the liberals holding the keys as they traditionally have for thousands of years.

    Some scientific information revealing the truth about global warming, when it happened and what probably caused it.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:0Maste…

    http://www.geocraft.com/WVFossils/global…

    http://www.geocraft.com/WVFossils/greenh…

    http://reasonmclucus.tripod.com/CO2myth.…

    http://mc-computing.com/qs/Global_Warmin…

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_varia…

    Where the heat came from and why it was abnormally cold previously

    http://www.ac.wwu.edu/~dbunny/research/g…

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_cycle

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_minim…

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maunder_Min…

    Source(s): MIND KNOWLEDGE
  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    this is true our global co2 production is less than 0.05% of the total 0.4% overall co2 level in the atmosphere and this is a lot lower than years before us because of the decrease in volcanic activity over the last few 1000 years they say it will increase however due to deforestation but weight for weight grassland produces more oxygen than forested areas also they are using modified data from 1800s which consist of a bucket and thermometer they openly say the information has been changed to fit how they want, records also show glaciers they have been a lot further back in the past green living should be taken up due to a lack of available resources and you are right they are very separate issues

    The world's source for global temperature record admits it's lost or destroyed all the original data that would allow the construction of a global temperature record. The CRU has refused to release the raw weather station data and its processing methods for inspection - except to hand-picked academics - for several years. Instead, it releases a ‘processed version’, based on approximations on what they could find isn’t this the data that you then feed through a model to create these facts sooooooo how accurate are they now that you know this????

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  • 1 decade ago

    Mean temperature increase from 1909-2009 using 5yr averages is +0.89C:

    http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/cru/data/temperature/hadc...

    Sea level rise is from a combination of thermal expansion and melting land ice. Glaciers on mountains, Greenland, West Antarctica & the Antarctic Peninsula are shrinking. East Antarctica is growing. Sea ice doesn't affect sea levels, but it seems the Arctic is shrinking very quickly, the Antarctic growing slowly. Sea levels are rising, and the growth of Antarctic east ice was expected by climate scientists and is projected by climate models. It isn't enough to cancel out other melt and thermal expansion, however.

    Not all temperature records are done from urban areas. We have satellites measuring the temperature - they agree with the surface record (which is corrected to account for urban effects):

    http://cce.890m.com/giss-vs-all.jpg

    Governments are considering spending money based on the opinion of the scientific community after decades of research by hundreds, if not thousands of scientists:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_opinion_on...

    Many of your arguments are common 'popular media' arguments that have been successfully dismissed by scientists for years now.

  • 1 decade ago

    The only thing that it really matters to is Al Gore's bank account. That slimeball's made millions.

  • 1 decade ago

    Put your tinfoil hat down and step away from it.

    After you've done that, go to http://nas.edu/climatechange and educate yourself.

    Source(s): NAS = National Academy of Sciences -- the premier "goto" place to find answers to important scientific questions.
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