How do Jehovah's Witnesses understand Acts 20:28 where God said He purchased His church with His Blood ?
Reading Acts 20:28 God Purchased the church with his blood. God the father is spirit, so he didn't shed blood, but Jesus did.
Acts 20:28 (King James Version)
28Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.
Jehovah's Witnesses say Jesus is an angel but all I find is the Opposite and that Jesus is indeed God
EDIT: CONUNDRUM... sorry but it says God purchased the church with His own blood and not any angels but His OWN and who was the One who died JESUS CHRIST
Also I do not give thumbs down and if I asked a question why would I give thumbs down, defeats the purpose for me asking them.
- Nina, BaCLv 71 decade agoFavorite Answer
New American Standard Bible " Be on guard for yourselves and for all the flock, among which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers ( these are the same as elders and pastors ), to shepherd the church of God which He purchased with His own blood "
This indeed proves that Jesus Christ is God, for He is called so here, where He is said to purchase the church with His own blood. The blood was His as a man, yet so close is the union between the divine and human nature that it is here called the blood of God, for it was the blood of Him who is God, and His being so put such dignity and worth into it as made it both valuable ransom of us from evil, and valuable purchase for us of all good, nay, a purhcase of us to Christ and purchased at so dear rate.
Reference to redemption through Jesus' blood ( i.e. death )is unique in Acts, though reflecting Paul's language in his letters ( Romans 3:25, 5:9, Eph 2:13 ). A timely warning, proven true by later events at Ephesus ( 1 Tim 1:3-7, 19, 20, 6:20, 21, Rev 2:2 ). False teachers were already plaguing the churches of Galatia ( Gal 1:6 ) and the Corinthian church.
The word stresses the leaders' responsibility to watch and protect their congregation - an appropriate usage in the context of a warning against the false teachers.
Paul believed so strongly in the unity of God the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ that he could speak of Christ's death as shedding the blood of God - who has no body ( John 4:24, Luke 24:39 ) and hence no blood.
- troll to trollLv 71 decade ago
Act 20:28 Take heed 4337 therefore 3767 unto yourselves 1438, and 2532 to all 3956 the flock 4168, over 1722 the which 3739 the Holy 40 Ghost 4151 hath made 5087 you 5209 overseers 1985, to feed 4165 the church 1577 of God 2316, which 3739 he hath purchased 4046 with 1223 his own 2398 blood 129
Even Westcott and Hort translates in this verse as God. W&H manuscripts are claimed to be the base of the NWT. Of course, only when they agree with the doctrines of the Watch Tower. If the W&H manuscripts do not agree the Watch Tower finds some reason to justify the language and this is absolute garbage.
Westcott and Hort:
The Watch Tower and Watch Tower defenders try to confuse and obfuscate.
Some manuscripts this or that.
Again this shows the dishonesty of the NWT 'translation' committee and the theology that it is written to support.
Four of the five NWT 'translation' committee sat on the Governing Body of the Watch Tower and none of them had any training in biblical Hebrew or Koine Greek.
- Q&A QueenLv 71 decade ago
Jesus is sitting at the right hand of God. He is the second most powerful person in the universe.
(Acts 2:33) Therefore because he was exalted to the right hand of God and received the promised holy spirit from the Father, he has poured out this which YOU see and hear.
How many people in that verse?
He purchased the "church" with his blood when he presented the value of his sacrifice to his father. Ask yourself. If he IS God, why did he have to do that?
(Hebrews 9:14) how much more will the blood of the Christ, who through an everlasting spirit offered himself without blemish to God, cleanse our consciences from dead works that we may render sacred service to [the] living God?
About Acts 20:28 - Look at how other translations phrase it. Clearly there are some language issues so when you take the ENTIRE bible in context including scriptures like the ones cited by Conundrum it's impossible to walk away believing Jesus and his father are 1.
RSV - Act 20:28 - Take heed to yourselves and to all the flock, in which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers, to care for the church of God which he obtained with the blood of his own Son.
DBY - Act 20:28 - Take heed therefore to yourselves, and to all the flock, wherein the Holy Spirit has set you as overseers, to shepherd the assembly of God, which he has purchased with the blood of his own.
- FuzzyLv 71 decade ago
Not a wt-Jw:
I must say that I am happy for all the various scholars we have available to consult through many translations. Relying on just one translation for the wording is not sufficient. Rather, when problems arise, many should be consulted.
In this case, avoiding the NWT because you may think it tainted in favor of the Wt church's viewpoint - I went to the most excellent translation by the Catholic church, and others:
Here are three translations:
New Jerusalem Bible, Catholic:
28'Be on your guard for yourselves and for all the flock of which the Holy Spirit has made you the guardians, to feed the Church of God which he bought with the blood of his own Son.
An American Bible, Online - recent translation:
28 So now; Pay attention to yourselves and to the whole flock that the Holy Breath [of God] has appointed you to watch over and shepherd… this congregation of God, which He purchased with the blood of [His own Son].
ASV: (also a very known and good translation)
28 Take heed unto yourselves, and to all the flock, in which the Holy Spirit hath made you bishops, to feed the church of the Lord which he purchased with his own blood.
Then you have other translations repeating somewhat what your translation said.
What it boils down to then is that we must look at what is taught about Christ, about God, and let a harmonic interpretation guide us.
Try reading in the KJV since you are using that one, the first chapter of Revelation.
1. God gives Christ the revelation
4-7. Jesus and God mentioned totally separate
Jesus is shown to view God, the Father, as his God
4 John to the seven churches which are in Asia: Grace be unto you, and peace, from him which is, and which was, and which is to come; and from the seven Spirits which are before his throne; 5 And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood, 6 And hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father; to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.
9. the word of God and the testimony of Jesus -- separated
8. !! Here you need to consult other translations, the ASV again?,
it says Lord God, not used for Jesus!
"8 I am the Alpha and the Omega, saith the Lord God, who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty."
Why try to make Jesus more than he is?
He is whom we live for, whom we die for.
He is our only master, our Lord.
He is the one who resurrects us.
The evidence when collected about who Jesus is - is not ambiguous.
That doesn't mean that the Wt's teachings about Jesus are appropriate - they do not give him the honor he deserves. They do not live for Christ but for the Father, Jehovah. This is not what was ordained.
Through our obedience to Christ, our preaching of Christ we do God's will since that is surely what Christ revealed. But we must live for Christ. We pray to the Father, and we pray to the son. The Father is worshiped, and the son as our Lord, our shepherd, our caretaker, our teacher, is approached as our master for assistance and loving care.
We confess Christ - not the Father in that same way - that is not what we were instructed to do. Christ is our ransom, the way to God, but we are (should be) in Christ to be reconciled with God.
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- 1 decade ago
Jesus is Jehovah - There was no need to add the name Jehovah to the New Testament - Jesus is Jehovah - Those who are not born again cannot comprehend the things of the Sprit because they are natural men and women - God is not a natural - God is a Spirit - This is how you worship Him and comprehend Him by your spirit not your intellect
God was pleased for all of himself to live in Christ. 20 And through Christ, God has brought all things back to himself again--things on earth and things in heaven. God made peace through the blood of Christ's death on the cross. Col 1:19-20Source(s): Bible Teacher
- truthsayerLv 61 decade ago
RUSSELLITES SUBTRACT FROM THE DEITY OF CHRIST
* They deny the Trinity altogether.
* They teach that the Word (Christ) is a created being.
* They deny Christ's bodily resurrection.
Let's look at see what the Bible says:
Question: "Is Jesus God? Did Jesus ever claim to be God?"
Answer: Jesus is never recorded in the Bible as saying the precise words, “I am God.” That does not mean, however, that He did not proclaim that He is God. Take for example Jesus’ words in John 10:30, “I and the Father are one.” We need only to look at the Jews’ reaction to His statement to know He was claiming to be God. They tried to stone Him for this very reason. “… you, a mere man, claim to be God” (John 10:33). The Jews understood exactly what Jesus was claiming—deity. Notice that Jesus does not deny His claim to be God. When Jesus declared, “I and the Father are one” (John 10:30), He was saying that He and the Father are of one nature and essence. John 8:58 is another example. Jesus declared, “I tell you the truth, before Abraham was born, I am!” The response of the Jews who heard this statement was to take up stones to kill Him for blasphemy, as the Mosaic Law commanded them to do (Leviticus 24:15).
John reiterates the concept of Jesus’ deity: “the Word was God” and “the Word became flesh” (John 1:1, 14). These verses clearly indicate that Jesus is God in the flesh. Acts 20:28 tells us, “Be shepherds of the church of God, which he bought with his own blood.” Who bought the church—the church of God—with His own blood? Jesus Christ. Acts 20:28 declares that God purchased His church with His own blood. Therefore, Jesus is God!
Thomas the disciple declared concerning Jesus, “My Lord and my God” (John 20:28). Jesus does not correct him. Titus 2:13 encourages us to wait for the coming of our God and Savior, Jesus Christ (see also 2 Peter 1:1). In Hebrews 1:8, the Father declares of Jesus, “But about the Son He says, ’Your throne, O God, will last forever and ever, and righteousness will be the scepter of your kingdom.’” The Father refers to Jesus as “O God” indicating that Jesus is indeed God.
In Revelation, an angel instructed the apostle John to only worship God (Revelation 19:10). Several times in Scripture Jesus receives worship (Matthew 2:11, 14:33, 28:9, 17; Luke 24:52; John 9:38). He never rebukes people for worshiping Him. If Jesus were not God, He would have told people to not worship Him, just as the angel in Revelation did. There are many other verses and passages of Scripture that argue for Jesus’ deity.
The most important reason that Jesus has to be God is that if He is not God, His death would not have been sufficient to pay the penalty for the sins of the world (1 John 2:2). A created being, which Jesus would be if He were not God, could not pay the infinite penalty required for sin against an infinite God. Only God could pay such an infinite penalty. Only God could take on the sins of the world (2 Corinthians 5:21), die, and be resurrected, proving His victory over sin and death.
- LottaLouLv 71 decade ago
compares the KJV of this verse with the Greek.
It is written that Holy Spirit purchased our Salvation with own Blood.
Michael the Archangel did NOT purchase our Salvation because He didn't shed His blood on the cross for remission of our sins.
- 1 decade ago
Sorry, but this verse isn't as clear cut as you might think it is.
For one, it wasn't written in English. According to the Greek, the word "one's own" in this verse can include the semantic meaning that Jesus' blood was "God's blood," even though they are two distinct, separate beings.
Second, the most ancient manuscripts of this verse are split concerning this verse. Some say "God," others say "Lord." So we cannot be certain if this verse is referring to God, or to Jesus.
Many Biblical Greek scholars - even staunch Trinitarians - have discussed the difficulties of this verse. In other words, this is in no way an explicit declaration of the Trinity.
- debbie2243Lv 71 decade ago
because your bible doesn't clearly distinguish Jehovah from Jesus so you think they are both the same.
GOD...LORD is the Almighty God
god...Lord is Jesus Christ....Christ means the anointed one. Jehovah anointed him.
Jehovah has no blood..he is a spirit.
Jesus poured out his blood willingly when his father asked him to sacrifice his life for mankind.
2 different personages...two different spirit beings..yet they are one in purpose and that purpose is to reconcile all mankind to God.
- LineDancerLv 71 decade ago
How do other Bibles render Acts. 20:28? Consider:
"Be on your guard for yourselves and for all the flock of which the Holy Spirit has made you the guardians, to feed the Church of God which he bought with the blood of his own Son." (NJB)
"Take heed to yourselves and to all the flock, in which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers, to care for the church of God which he obtained with the blood of his own Son." (RSV)
Which version of Acts 20:28 harmonises with 1 John 1:7, which says: "But if we are living in the light, as God is in the light, then we have fellowship with each other, and the blood of Jesus, his Son, cleanses us from all sin."
Also, Rev. 1:5-6 says: "[Jesus] is the faithful witness to these things, the first to rise from the dead, and the ruler of all the kings of the world. All glory to him who loves us and has freed us from our sins by shedding his blood for us. He has made us a Kingdom of priests for God his Father."
So, whose blood was spilled? God's or God's Son? Clearly, it was God's Son.
"Jesus is indeed God."
Jesus is NOT God; he's the Son of God. As 1 John 5:5 says: "And who can win this battle against the world? Only those who believe that Jesus is the Son of God." What does it say in YOUR Bible?
"God Purchased the church with his blood. God the father is spirit, so he didn't shed blood, but Jesus did."
FYI, God the Father IS God. Jesus is the Son of God. The trinity teaching has you very confused.
Face it; you can't successfully challenge JWs. You are out of their league.