Jehovah’s Witnesses & Catholics: How can I understand the big difference in false-prophecy between you both?
When we think about false prophesies (i.e., predictions about future events that turned out to be untrue), we see this mostly commonly amongst Jehovah’s Witnesses, Pentecostals (like Benny Hinn), Seventh Day Adventists (like Ellen G White), and so on.
But it seems like Jehovah’s Witnesses top the list with 15 or more major false prophecies.
When one tries to find false prophecies made by Lutherans, Baptists, Catholics, Presbyterians, or any other mainstream (Bible-based religion), they are really hard to find any (I can’t find any).
In fact, I cannot even recall a time when the Pope announced that the world was coming to an end at a particular date. I don’t believe that Lutherans have ever made such announcements either.
I’m trying to understand why this is. There’s nothing at all to prevent a mainstream religion from issuing (false) prophetic statements. Of course, there’s a lot of stuff (historical) that we could criticize Catholics and Lutherans for. But I simply cannot find any false prophecy.
Am I missing something? If not, is there some sort of organizational mechanism within mainstream Christianity that prevents that sort of thing from happening? How does this work?
@Vicarious Cynic: That’s a good point. Going back to the crusades, the whole issue of selling religious artifacts like splinters from the cross of Christ was quite the scam. But I’m not sure those abuses would qualify as false prophesies – which is the topic I’m talking about in this question.
@ Robert & Denise: Please reread my question. I was not attacking Catholics.
@Alexander: Yes. There’s a passage that says that no man knows the day or the hour. Those who predict the end of the world usually limit their prediction to a particular year. For example, in 1974 the Watchtower Society told its members to sell their homes, quit their jobs, and focus full-time on preaching (since, according to them, the world would end in 1975).
- imacatholic2Lv 71 decade agoFavorite Answer
I think the difference is spiritual maturity.
"But of that day or hour, no one knows, neither the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. Be watchful! Be alert! You do not know when the time will come." (Mark 13:32-33)
Jesus told us in no uncertain terms that we were not to know when the end of the world would come but that we were always to be ready.
Each new Christian denomination seems to worry about the end of the world a bit too much. Then after a couple of centuries, they realize that there are always wars and rumors of wars, etc.
I won't even mention the hundreds of false predictions of the end of the world over the centuries, all of which were based on individual interpretations of biblical prophecies.
The first century Christian Church thought that Jesus was going to return at any moment. Only after a couple of centuries did the Church realize that it may be 2,000 or 4,000 or 8,000 years before Jesus returns.
The Catholic Church wisely follows Jesus' advice and teaches that each of us should live as if we will meet our maker in the next ten minutes and that we need to work to make the world a better place for our 100 X great-grandchildren.
Do not worry about the end of the world. Trust God to make sure everything happens to plan. Just be ready to meet God at any time.
For more information, about what Catholics believe about the end of the world, see: http://www.americancatholic.org/Newsletters/CU/ac0...
With love in Christ.
- 1 decade ago
Well the only thing prophesised in the bible, is the end of the world. Mainstream religions aren't silly enough to announce a date for the end of the world, without proper proof...The majority of people (even christians) would want substantial evidence for that.
They follow the bible and the word of God, the pope and other major religious leaders are not prophets...They do not prophesise. The pope is God's 'voice' here on earth, but Catholics do not believe he has a telephone line to heaven. He is a spiritual conscience on religious matters, not a prophet.
I hope this answer helps.
- Anonymous1 decade ago
Serious why don't you open a book and look at the differences in theology and history and that may give you an answer.
If you base your faith on prophecies of things to come which is divination and definately frowned upon in the bible then of course you won;t understand.
Jehovahs witnesses do not believe in what mainstream Christains, Catholics being the daddy of them all numerically and diversity wise. For instance Jehovahs witnesses believe Jesus to be pure spirit, an incarnation of the archangel Micheal, mainstream Christians believe Jesus to be both fully man and God as they have since the early Church after the ressurection.
The Catholic Church by contrast has a set of dogmas broadly shared though diluted throughout various schisms which are a matter of fundamental Christian belief that other churches to a greater or lesser extent agree with some totally, but not on matters of traditions or the primacy of the papacy in the organisational heirarchy. Ask yourself why for instance in England Anglicans are being accepted en masse back to the church despite the history between us. Catholic means universal and thats exactly what it is. It moves slowly enough on matters such as science or apparitions of Mary because it is infinately careful regarding itself as an institution which has a will carry on when all of us are dust, very slow to jump on any partivcular bandwagon, and never changing in dogma only clarifying and interpreting as necessary (or long after it was).
Theres a passage I cant be bothered to find where Jesus tells his disciples that if anyone should tell them that he is returning at this time or date not to believe them, why then should or would anyone believe a cult that syas such things? Insufficient knowledge of scripture and tradition abd the suseptible personality attracted to such things could account for it.
- Anonymous1 decade ago
Your church is a false religion teach many lies and get involve in politics...Why you say they are approved by God if they do such things?
Your church is false the reasons are :
MEDDLES IN WAR AND POLITICS: “Across Asia and beyond,” says the journal Asiaweek, “power-hungry leaders are cynically manipulating people’s religious sentiments for their own needs.” As a result, the journal warns: “The world threatens to sink into madness.” A prominent religious leader in the United States declared: “You’ve got to kill the terrorists before the killing stops.” His solution? “Blow them all away in the name of the Lord.” By contrast, the Bible says: “If anyone makes the statement: ‘I love God,’ and yet is hating his brother, he is a liar.” (1 John 4:20) Jesus even said: “Continue to love your enemies.” (Matthew 5:44) How many religions can you think of whose members engage in war?
SPREADS FALSE DOCTRINE: Most religions teach that the soul or spirit is some invisible part of a human that survives the death of the physical body. By means of this teaching, many of these religions exploit their members, charging money to pray for departed souls. However, the Bible teaches a different doctrine. “The soul that is sinning—it itself will die.” (Ezekiel 18:4) “The living are conscious that they will die; but as for the dead, they are conscious of nothing at all.” (Ecclesiastes 9:5) Jesus taught that the dead will be resurrected—an unnecessary action if humans had an immortal soul. (John 11:11-25) Does your religion teach that the soul does not die?
TOLERATES IMMORAL SEX: In Western lands, church groups ordain gay and lesbian members of the clergy and urge governments to recognize same-sex marriages. Even churches that condemn immorality have tolerated religious leaders who have sexually abused children. What, though, does the Bible teach? It plainly states: “Do not be misled. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men kept for unnatural purposes, nor men who lie with men . . . will inherit God’s kingdom.” (1 Corinthians 6:9, 10) Do you know of religions that condone immoral sex?
What does the future hold for religions that produce rotten fruit? Jesus warned: “Every tree not producing fine fruit gets cut down and thrown into the fire.” (Matthew 7:19) Yes, false religion will be chopped down and destroyed! But how and when will this happen? A prophetic vision recorded in the Bible book of Revelation, chapters 17 and 18, provides the answer.
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- 1 decade ago
Telling someone the end of the world is coming is next year is a way to prigh open people's pocketbooks. False prophets have always done this.
- big redLv 71 decade ago
The Catholic church is not false it is the one true church founded by Christ It was founded in 33 A.D. All other churches are false founded by men.Source(s): Catholic Christian
- Anonymous1 decade ago
in the Bible it says that no one will be able to predict the end of the world so, Christians just decided that if they cant predict the end of the world then why bother?
- Anonymous1 decade ago
I WAS THERE SEPTEMBER 1, 1975,,,,,,,,YEP........THE WATCHTOWER WAS IN A FRENZY........
SELL YOUR HOMES........QUIT YOU JOBS......DONT GET YOUR TEETH FIXED..........NO ONE KNOWS WHO WILL SURVIVE !!!!!
I WAS 16 AND JUST FELT THAT NOTHING I DID WAS GOOD ENOUGH TO LIVE THROUGH ARMAGEDDON........
THE TURBULENCE ......THE DEPRESSION.........MY FAMILY.......WAS DRINKING.........
AND THEN WITHIN TIME.......MY FATHER WHO WAS AN ELDER AND ALCOHOLIC HAD AN AFFAIR WITH TWO WOMEN.......ONE AFTER ANOTHER.........
AND OF COURSE.........THE JWS NOW..........BLAME THE VICTIM...........
DENY THE LIE.............
EITHER THE JWS WERE THE TRUTH........
OR THEY ARE NOT.........34 YEARS AFTER THE LIE......
THE JWS ARE STILL LYING TO A NEW GENERATION...........
- conundrumLv 71 decade ago
Satan would especially like to stop Jehovah’s Witnesses from preaching the Kingdom good news Russ, but he cannot, for Jehovah has promised them: “Any weapon whatever that will be formed against you will have no success.” (Isaiah 54:17) Those who oppose his servants like yourself will “be found fighters actually against God.” (Acts 5:38, 39) So, with the powerful backing of Jehovah’s spirit, Christ Jesus, and multitudes of angelic forces, the work of Kingdom proclamation grows in intensity each year.
Thing is Russ- you fail to notice it..
- sky blue...Lv 61 decade ago
I don't know about Jehova's as a for catholics??? what do you mean catholics???
Catholic means universal.
are trying to say Roman Catholics?
If i read something that i don't believe i JUST READ AND FORGET ABOUT IT.
What will i get if i'm going to question and laugh and discriminate everything and anything? will i get a penny on it??? NO.
I'm just wasting my time.
If you think it's untrue then don't believe it, as simple as that.
No body is forcing you to believe it anyway.