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Anonymous asked in Society & CultureReligion & Spirituality · 1 decade ago

Christians, do you know that even if today, evolution is DISPROVED, God is still not proven in any way?

for the sake of argument, even if evolution or science is disproved, god cannot be proven still :)

Christians, DO you know that your bible is not proof of god?

Update:

bible is not proof of god because god cannot be seen, cannot be observed and cannot be tested to exist. plus, if a book can prove god, then other books should be able to, too.

Update 2:

ace,

im not surprised. im just surprised that christians think i they disproveevolution., god must be real. LOL

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  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago
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    The existence of God cannot be proved or disproved. The Bible says that we must accept by faith the fact that God exists: “And without faith it is impossible to please God, because anyone who comes to Him must believe that He exists and that He rewards those who earnestly seek Him” (Hebrews 11:6). If God so desired, He could simply appear and prove to the whole world that He exists. But if He did that, there would be no need for faith. “Then Jesus told him, ‘Because you have seen me, you have believed; blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed’” (John 20:29).

    That does not mean, however, that there is no evidence of God’s existence. The Bible states, “The heavens declare the glory of God; the skies proclaim the work of His hands. Day after day they pour forth speech; night after night they display knowledge. There is no speech or language where their voice is not heard. Their voice goes out into all the earth, their words to the ends of the world” (Psalm 19:1-4). Looking at the stars, understanding the vastness of the universe, observing the wonders of nature, seeing the beauty of a sunset—all of these things point to a Creator God. If these were not enough, there is also evidence of God in our own hearts. Ecclesiastes 3:11 tells us, “…He has also set eternity in the hearts of men.” Deep within us is the recognition that there is something beyond this life and someone beyond this world. We can deny this knowledge intellectually, but God’s presence in us and all around us is still obvious. Despite this, the Bible warns that some will still deny God’s existence: “The fool says in his heart, ‘There is no God’” (Psalm 14:1). Since the vast majority of people throughout history, in all cultures, in all civilizations, and on all continents believe in the existence of some kind of God, there must be something (or someone) causing this belief.

    In addition to the biblical arguments for God’s existence, there are logical arguments. First, there is the ontological argument. The most popular form of the ontological argument uses the concept of God to prove God’s existence. It begins with the definition of God as “a being than which no greater can be conceived.” It is then argued that to exist is greater than to not exist, and therefore the greatest conceivable being must exist. If God did not exist, then God would not be the greatest conceivable being, and that would contradict the very definition of God.

    A second argument is the teleological argument. The teleological argument states that since the universe displays such an amazing design, there must have been a divine Designer. For example, if the Earth were significantly closer or farther away from the sun, it would not be capable of supporting much of the life it currently does. If the elements in our atmosphere were even a few percentage points different, nearly every living thing on earth would die. The odds of a single protein molecule forming by chance is 1 in 10243 (that is a 10 followed by 243 zeros). A single cell is comprised of millions of protein molecules.

    A third logical argument for God’s existence is called the cosmological argument. Every effect must have a cause. This universe and everything in it is an effect. There must be something that caused everything to come into existence. Ultimately, there must be something “un-caused” in order to cause everything else to come into existence. That “un-caused” cause is God.

    A fourth argument is known as the moral argument. Every culture throughout history has had some form of law. Everyone has a sense of right and wrong. Murder, lying, stealing, and immorality are almost universally rejected. Where did this sense of right and wrong come from if not from a holy God?

    Despite all of this, the Bible tells us that people will reject the clear and undeniable knowledge of God and believe a lie instead. Romans 1:25 declares, “They exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen.” The Bible also proclaims that people are without excuse for not believing in God: “For since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities—His eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse” (Romans 1:20).

    People claim to reject God’s existence because it is “not scientific” or “because there is no proof.” The true reason is that once they admit that there is a God, they also must realize that they are responsible to God and in need of forgiveness from Him (Romans 3:23, 6:23). If God exists, then we are accountable to Him for our actions. If God does not exist, then we can do whatever we want without having to worry about God judging us. That is why many of those who deny the existence of God cling strongly to the theory of naturalistic evolution—it gives them an alternative to believing in a Creator God. God exists and ultimately everyone knows that He exists. The very fact that some attempt so aggressively to disprove His existence is in fact an argument for His existence.

    How do we know God exists? As Christians, we know God exists because we speak to Him every day. We do not audibly hear Him speaking to us, but we sense His presence, we feel His leading, we know His love, we desire His grace. Things have occurred in our lives that have no possible explanation other than God. God has so miraculously saved us and changed our lives that we cannot help but acknowledge and praise His existence. None of these arguments can persuade anyone who refuses to acknowledge what is already obvious. In the end, God’s existence must be accepted by faith (Hebrews 11:6). Faith in God is not a blind leap into the dark; it is safe step into a well-lit room where the vast majority of people are already standing.

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  • Truth
    Lv 7
    1 decade ago

    God can be proven outside of evolution.

    These are some proofs:

    The Bible has a remarkable internal cohesion in spite of being written over hundreds of years by people of various social classes, and even languages.

    The prophecies in the Bible have come true. Including ones that have manuscripts that are older than the fulfillment of the prophecy. This includes the prophecies in Daniel 2 which cover Western history to the present, the one that Jericho would be rebuilt, but the builder’s oldest and youngest sons would die during the building, and the one about Babylon never being rebuilt. If you want to disprove Christianity and Judaism just go rebuild Jerusalem.

    Here are some other reasons for belief:

    The Jews were a small band of people that lived in the area of Mesopotamia in the time of the Phoenicians, the Lydians, etc. Even the Babylonians have been absorbed or destroyed. Why do the Jews continue to survive and prosper with their culture intact in spite of almost universal hatred? As an amateur historian I would say that the Jews should have been wiped out before written history. However, as a Bible student I am not surprised. It was just as the Bible predicted it should be.

    This same argument can be made for the survival of Christianity. The Christians were a very small band of an off shoot of a unpopular religion. They should have been wiped out by the Jews and / or the Romans within the lifetime of the apostles. Yet, just 300 years later, we find Constintine converting to keep his empire for splitting because there are too many Christians for the Roman army to subdue them.

    Anthropology

    Biblical cities not recorded in secular works have been found in the conditions the Bible predicts.

    Personal Evidence:

    What I know for sure is that God gives me peace beyond my imagination, and is slowly changing me from my bitter, violent past into a kinder, gentler person. I know that you don't give this kind of evidence much credibility, but in my experience it can't be denied.

    Psychology:

    The venom of the anti-religious is one of the best proofs of religion. Normally people don't fight against things they don't believe in with great passion. They do fight against things they know are true, that they can't deal with that way.

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  • 1 decade ago

    Theres still no way to DISPROVE God either.

    And yes, if the 100's of end times prophecies are fulfilled like the 1 world government, the 666 mark on the right hand of forehead, the 3rd Jewish temple rebuilt, a 7 year peace treaty with Israel, a man showing great signs and wonders and coming back to life (antichrist), an earthquake in Jerusalem 7,000 slain, a meteor burning 1/3 of the earth, a 2,000,000 man army slaying 1/4 of mankind....... then the Bible would be proven and God would be proven. But even if everything happened in the exact order the Bible says scoffers will say "its only proof your a lunatic."

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  • Annie
    Lv 7
    1 decade ago

    and may I say that I am NOT worried about if science or evolution or any thing else is disproved or other wise ?? and my I also say, that God is proved, to me at least, and again , I do NOT worry about what others *think* they know ?? And may I also say that for and to a Child of God, God can be tested, in a Spiritual way, can be observed, in a Spiritual way, and CAN be seen, in a Spiritual way !! So, it all comes down to a LOT more than YOU are admitting to !! go in peace.... God bless

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  • 1 decade ago

    Once you let Jesus Christ into your heart and life , you will KNOW

    that God exists . There is no such thing as " I was a Christian

    but I`m not anymore ". There is no bouncing back and forth .

    Either one is a Christian or not and there is no in - between.

    People believe that aliens exists but have never seen one .

    What gets me is how these so called atheists spend all there time trying to prove there is no God and bash Christians. Why the big deal about worrying about what we believe ? The only thing keeping this world together are those that believe in God. It`s not the Christian

    population selling drugs, raping , robbing and murdering people.

    Guess you`ve never thought about it that way.

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  • 1 decade ago

    Of course disproving evolution does not prove God. Why do you people keep saying that? Why do you insist on talking to us like we are stupid? Of course, your second question is about the bible proving God, and yes, I agree that it doesn't. And, someday, you will see that it's not about proof.

    You use scientific language to claim God doesn't exist, and he is the one who invented science. Of course you have changed the definition, to make it impossible to include anything supernatural. Don't you see how you have been blinded? Of course you don't. Someday you will, but I hope it isn't too late.

    Source(s): "The reason for God," by Timothy Keller
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  • 1 decade ago

    You are absolutley correct in that statement. I am a Christian myself, and the bible speaks of this point:

    We loved you so much that we were delighted to share with you not only the gospel of God but our lives as well, because you had become so dear to us. 1 Thessalonians 2:8

    As a christian I am responsible for much more than throwning bible rhetoric at unbelievers, my life should be the missing link that ties the two together.

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  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    You fool, you don't believe in Jesus who came on earth just 2000 years ago. The religion Christianity is because of Jesus and you don't need any other proof for his life on earth. If Jesus is true, then you have no way out. God surely exists and the biggest proof for his existence is Jesus himself. Evolution is a fictional theory similar to Muslim's book Quran.

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  • 1 decade ago

    This is the desperation of the religious right. They think if they can debunk just one scientific theory that contradicts their bible, then the science community will dump everything else and come flooding back into their fold.

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  • 1 decade ago

    that is incorrect yes the bible is the witness of men who saw God and lived with God. it is proof as is the holy spirit that lives in us.

    As is the creation which is a witness of the power of God.

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