I being a Cubs fan, I feel bad for the Pirates every now and then. Everyone in our division destroys them. And 17 years of losing record? Thats pathetic, and thats coming from a Cubs fan. Whats worse, is they really dont have much hope for the next year or two. A team I LOVE beating, since I work with a bunch of fans from them, I LOVE beating Milwaukee, and we do it quite frequently. I've won many a bets on them losing.