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Anonymous asked in Politics & GovernmentPolitics · 1 decade ago

So what's this about the government is going to check for citizenship to make sure illegals don't get...?

...free health care?

Is that new or was the checking of IDs always there?

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  • 1 decade ago
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    Checking ID for citizenship in hospitals is new, thanks to Joe Wilson.

    No plan will please everyone. Checking for citizenship will at least enable us to know who we are treating and who we are paying health care for.

    There are some who believe card check doesn't work, on the contrary, it does work 9999 times out of 10000 times used.

    The very few citizens who have a problem with the system will need to update their information as needed to avoid delayed treatment. Which is the responsible thing for everyone to do. Just as they should renew a drivers license when needed and again if there is a problem with it.

    Health care will not be free. The President has even admitted this. Not only will you pay taxes toward it (for those who can not afford it) you will also be billed for your policy, if your employer decides to drop your company coverage.

    This may all change before the final bill passes.

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  • 1 decade ago

    Before you get a Health Ins. Card you would have to prove you are a citizen. We do not have the money to treat everyone that comes here illegally. We do not have the Hospitals, doctors, nurses,techs etc. Health care will already be rationed with a public plan and I do no think an illegal should get in line when an American is need of medical treatment. This would be different. Just an ID that could be fake will not work any more.

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  • 1 decade ago

    For the federal government to proff it will mandate/enact an eligible receivers system is total political B.S. It sounds good and looks good on paper but reality is it will become the responsibility of the individual state.

    Currently many states have prohibitions of refusing state social (medical), services based upon legal immigrant status. California being just one of them. If the states refuse to curtail the social services such as public assistance and education and because of political climate refuse to actively identify and deport illegals, or in the case of California....the governor seeking out every possible way to obfuscate having to deal with the illegal immigration problem to the point of passing laws to protect them; what makes anyone think the health organizations are going to actively act as the filters? let's be real. How can health organizations "Do No Harm" while refusing to extend medical services to illegals in emergency situations?

    It won't be the federal government picking up the continued provision of services to illegals anyway. It will be the state tax payer. For this reason, Obama can rightfully say he won't allow federal dollars be used to provide insurance to illegals. He doesn't need to...lol. He knows the bases are already covered at the state level. Consequently he doesn't even need to address illegal immigration in the health care proposals. Of course they won't be able to get an insurance policy. They don't need one anyway! The state and local governments will simply continue the status quo in regards to providing services to illegals.

    So the medical providers will simply assist them in obtaining medical care for free. "I'm sorry, but since you're an illegal immigrant we can't provide services to you unless you walk out the door and go around to the Emergency Room where we can't refuse you by law, weather you can afford to pay, or not". It won't matter if they can't obtain insurance!

    Case in point, UCD Medical Center Emergency Room in Sacramento; It's an "emergency" when the person walks in through the door of the E.R. even if it's a sprained pinky finger. It does NOT have to be a life threatening condition. Emergency rooms are still mandated by law to provide the services once the person signs in.

    For the person who already has medical insurance, they will see the cost actually go up for their coverage. Here is the why: An across the board tax surcharge (built into the policy), will need to be levied in order to cover the costs of those who can not afford a high end policy. A persons policy isn't going to dictate weather they receive the heart by-pass surgery needed, physical reconstruction needed resultant from a vehicle accident and so on. Although it will slow the process of diagnostic services due providers striving to reduce overhead.

    As a society we all have learned when it comes to government programs; Those who are considered able to pay for the Have Not's will foot the bill in the end. The "cost sharing" will just be hidden so it doesn't visibly hurt.

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  • 1 decade ago

    So they don't get health insurance.

    Republicans want the doctors offices and hospitals to verify citizenship and identification before treatment - but when this was tried for medicaid, citizens wound up being refused treatment due to paperwork snafus - even urgent treatment in some cases.

    Only emergency care is mandated to all by law.

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  • 1 decade ago

    1 - It's not free. You're going to be mandated to buy insurance even it is at a low price.

    #2 - You can thank Joe Wilson for that. Before his outburst it wasn't in the bill. Republicans had proposed two ammendments regarding the validating of citizenships, both of which were shot down repeatedly. It wasn't until Joe Wilson said "You Lie" did these provisions get added in.

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  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    It's phony. The government supports illegal workers because the rich corporations who bribe them support illegal workers.

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  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    Baloney that is over road with the part that says no one can be refused service for any reason.

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