Once again, Nokilleye graces us with her gloriously self-serving psychobabble consisting of fallacy after fallacy, and unhinged illiteracy when it comes to economics, history, and sociology. Why do you continue posting in Yahoo Answers when you are so embarrassingly ignorant and wreak of contempt? Not one aspect of your "answer" is correct! What purpose do you serve here? You speak from a wealth of myth and hyperbole and are nothing more than a tool of the propaganda - a useful "idiot" - impressionable, tortured and an undeniably unhappy soul.
I come from a country that is mired in the systems you wish to mirror and offer such high praise. Reading your profile is like looking through a telescope into the insane asylum. I don't know if I should pity you, or dismiss you as a "lost soul".
You don't have the slightest idea as to how an economy functions, or as to why profit is necessary on both ends of the transaction. You don't understand the difference between the voluntary inclusion of 3rd parties vs. government mandates. You don't understand the definition of insurance. You don't understand the relationship between the patient and the doctor. You don't even understand the fundamentals of the human animal (some would call this 'The Natural Laws') and how this relates to the economy, incentives, etc!
"Millions of dollars" is relative. Even if you decide to look at this as a profit issue, the health care and health insurance industry are at the bottom of the list in overall profit... less than 4%. That's approximately 4 pennies out of every American dollar, my dear. The United States Federal Government, since the early 20th century, has removed and/or prohibited all forms of "free trade"/competition from the health care and health insurance industry. They are the most regulated and controlled industries we have. Using the word 'private' with health care or health insurance in the same sentence is for all intents a purposes a joke. Bush and Congress touted the words "free market" "pro-free trade", etc. while at the same time engaging in some of the most destructive and anti-free market/free trade actions imaginable, and you, like the media, believe it's laissez-faire, free trade capitalism, etc. This is an analog to a husband saying "I am a pacifist. I hate physical confrontations. I would never strike you." while at the same time beating her to a bloody pulp.
Given that you do not even live in the United States, why are you offering your "opinions" regarding our economy? I read one of your other answers that stated we were living in the streets with slave labor wages. Do you realize how utterly ridiculous you sound? I suppose if watched the BBC, was submerged in a sea of fallacy, class envy, and exhibited hatred for the "individualist" that I would *feel* as you do.
You and Kevin A.R.T. are young, naive, and ignorant and are in desperate need of an education. Neither of you are stupid, per se, but you are hopelessly deluded and are the victims of indoctrination and cascading layers of outright lies and fallacious nonsense.
EDIT: Useful was intended but I neglected to type 'idiot', though perhaps that is not the proper term.
EDIT #2: Again, you prove my point far more effectively than I. I stand by my assertion that you are, indeed, a lost soul and in need of an education into some of the most fundamental basics of economics, natural law, and fiscal matters (which all directly affect social issues). Looking back at several of your answers, you fall prey to the most prevalent economic and historical myths/fallacies, so until you disabuse yourself from those myths/fallacies, there can be no discussion; we are quite literally speaking different languages. While you refer to our differences as two schools of thought, understand that your position/school is steeped in, again myth/fallacy. We might just as well argue about the existence of gravity, or which celestial body is closer: the moon or the sun. You present me with 2+2=5... how do we proceed unless you understand the basics? There can be no "accommodation" of 2+2=4. There can be no evasion of gravity. There can be no avoidance of economic laws.
I speak from a wealth of knowledge that I have achieved from over 40 years of economics, philosophy, and history education/research and I have seen cases such as yours. I studied both "schools of thought", and I actually once believed and "understood" things as you do. I discovered rather quickly that virtually everything I had come to understand or know to be true was utterly and embarrassingly false. What I believed to be true "sounded right" and at face value seemed logical; this is the seduction of your school of thought.
It takes great strength and intellectual honesty for an individual realize they are wrong. Initially, I badly wished to cling to what I thought I knew - what I understood to be true - then the blinders were taken off and I came to terms with it. This is something I doubt you (and people like you) will ever accomplish. It is tantamount to taking a victim of 50 years of brainwashing and expecting him to think otherwise, even when presented with undeniable fact.
If someone were to dig deep enough, they would find the source of your confusion and what drives your philosophy. There was some catalyst that ushered in your current mode of thinking... I have my theories.
Lastly, understand that your "unconditional love for the collective" is the unconditional destruction of the individual and their most basic inalienable natural rights. You are indirectly advocating the destruction of the human being. The individual is reduced to a cog in the mechanism of the collective - under the will of the collective - rather than an individual voice with personal freedom, choice, and the ability to pursue his/her desires, dreams, and goals. The equality that a collective may seek to provide is only achieved by the restraint and servitude of the individual. I can find no better example of equality in misery and mass slavery. The individual is the world's smallest minority, and I find it fascinating that someone who has studied the human animal as you claim to have done, is an advocate of the will of the collective over the individual. This, again, speaks to your fundamental disconnect with reality. On paper, the idea of a Utopian society is dynamite, but the results of the attempts to create such a society is truly all that matters at the end of the day.
If you are older than you seem, and are unwilling to (truly) educate yourself, then all you can hope for is to continue your struggle and live as a miserable human being in a country whose very ideology is the polar opposite of your own, or simply move to a country that offers the programs and economic system you desire and start anew.
· 1 decade ago