Christianity and Judaism..?
Much of the mythology of Christianity is a rehash of an older and even more transparent fabrication – Judaism.
The Israelites did not come from Egypt – a palpable myth – but emerged from the local population. There was no ancient 'Jewish Empire': the Jewish priests drew their inspiration from the empire of the Assyrians and "Judaism" was a reaction to the loss of the northern kingdom and an instructive period spent in Babylon. Jerusalem in 10th century BC had been barely a village of huts and cave dwellings. Kings David and Solomon are purely mythical characters – warrior/priest heroes, invented in the 6th century BC. Temples on the Mount?
Herod the Great was a real king – but he did not massacre any babies. He was an astute and successful ruler. The Herodians and the Jewish elite became Romanised but religious fanatics led an armed resistance which ended in catastrophes under Titus, Trajan, and Hadrian. In the aftermath, a collaborationist revision of Judaism, later attributed to a 13th apostle "Paul", allegedly of impeccable Pharisaic credentials, competed fiercely with a reconstituted rabbinic Judaism which fused piety with mercantile success.
What do you think..?
- HatikvahLv 71 decade agoBest Answer
And who is left of those empires? Only the Jews.
We overcame the Greeks,
We overcame the Romans
We overcame the Spanish Inquisition,
We overcame the Russians pogrom,
We overcame Hitler, we overcame Germany and overcame the Holocaust.
Never mind which country or culture tries to harm us or erase us from the world. We will still exist and persevere. Egypt? Anyone know where the Egyptian empire disappeared to? The Greeks? Alexander Macedon? The Romans? Is anyone speaking Latin today? The Third Reich? Did anyone hear news from them lately?
And look at us, the Bible nation from slavery in Egypt, we are still here, still speaking the same language.
Exactly here, exactly now.
The Merneptah Stele is significant to biblical archaeologists because it is the earliest extra-biblical reference to the nation of Israel yet to be discovered. The mention of Israel is very short; it simply says, “Israel is laid waste, its seed is not.” Nevertheless, despite its brevity, the reference is very telling. It indicates that at the time the inscription was engraved, the nation of Israel was significant enough to be included by name among the other major city-states which were defeated by Merneptah in the late 13th century B.C. This implies that Israel was a major player in the region during the late 13th century, serving to corroborate to a degree the biblical narrative.
Because it remains the earliest known extra-biblical reference to the nation of Israel, the Merneptah Stele is also commonly known as the Israel Stele, or the Israel Stela (stela being another way to say and write stele). It is currently housed in the Cairo Museum in Cairo, Egypt.
The Merneptah Stele, which dates to about 1230 BC, was discovered in Thebes, Egypt in the late 1800’s. The Inscription contains a hymn and a list of the Pharaoh's military victories. The Nation of Israel is on the list of conquests, which scholars believe is the earliest reference to Israel outside the Bible.
The Merneptah Stele currently resides in the Cairo Museum, Egypt.
- 1 decade ago
I think? That you haven't spent much time studying archeology or history, & study instead, anti-religion sites that aren't factual.
There is archeological evidence of King David & Solomon (see City of David, a recent dig). There is some evidence of Jews in Egypt & lack of evidence for a time without much records isn't proof one way or another. Herod was creepy. External to-jewish records show that. The start of Chrisitnaity is unclear & that version is so classic to antiJewish rhetoric from later times, that it can be discounted as weird (mercantile success--- how stereotyped about Jews do you want to get?)
I have seen this whole sequence -- on badly written anti-religion sites. They are inevitably superfical, self-congratulatory, & doing all the "wrong" things they claim religions do to harm the world.
You don't have to believe the stories in the book as literal or accurate, in Judaism that's not even important. You don't have to like religion. But, please check out more credible history & archeology sources.
- 1 decade ago
Herod I divorced his first wife and renounced their son in order to marry Mariamne I, a Hasmonean princess, and thereby legitimise his appropriation of the throne after killing the last male Hasmonean heir and getting Mark Antony to execute the Hasmonean king.
In 7 BCE, he executed his two sons by Mariamne and reinstated his son by Doris, but then had him executed in 4 BCE on charges of planning to kill him. Lovely bunch, aren't they?
Rule of thumb -- whenever a story from the canon seems a bit odd, look to the political infighting of the time. There are usually fascinating echoes. In this one, Herod I, not a Hasmonean and a foreign convert of questionable validity to Judaism, went to great lengths to prevent the established family (134 year long reign) from returning to power. He killed at least one child and three of his own sons.
And what's the story in Matthew -- he killed all the Jewish sons to avoid the loss of his throne. It's called hyperbole.
The Christian canon is an inherently political document. But don't weaken your case by insisting on a narrowly literal interpretation or pretending it was just made up. It's saying something about what was going on at the time, just not what most people assume.Source(s): What are your sources? "Jewish Empire" is the language of conspiracy theories and hate speech, not historical study. There was a confederation of peoples which eventually united under a king. A very old wall of a very large building is still standing on the Mount. If it wasn't the Temple, what was it? Your attempt at a flip dismissal only indicates how shoddy your attempts at archaeological interpretation are. Again, it really looks like you're getting them from hate sites.
- scogginLv 43 years ago
think of of religion like Sci-Fi video clips and sequence. those wherein Islam, Judaism, and Christianity are the celebrity Wars universe, yet diverse followings on the story with diverse people it rather is concentrated on. One group believes Sidius to be a solid guy uniting the universe on the sacrifice of his image and existence. yet another believes he grow to be a rapidly up undesirable guy and had no genuine relevance previous the plot element the place he died. And the final group thinks the finished experience grow to be un-useful and the activities taken after it have been much greater exciting. jointly as diverse factors of perspectives, it rather is each and every of the comparable faith.
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- Anonymous1 decade ago
As an ancient historian
your wrong we have archaeological evidence of what you call a jewish empire
we dont have evidence of the jews going to egypt, that doesn't mean it didn't happen
the old testament is far far far older than the roman period
you need to re do your basic research
- Anonymous1 decade ago
So many falsehoods in there, hard to tell where to start. Toss the whole thing in the garbage can.
- ConfuciousMouseLv 41 decade ago
THINKER already has all answers concerning this question.
ConfuciousMouse think that THINKER is all too willing
to jump on soapbox to trumpet his own views, rather than
seriously consider what other people think.
- 1 decade ago
I think you need to study ancient history better.
- MPHLv 71 decade ago
What's your source?
- tree topLv 71 decade ago
God made the jew and the gentile one in the faith, there was around 3000 jews saved at the day of penacost, where the spirit came into the world and is still leading people into truth through the word (bible) read the first few chapters of eph.Source(s): Thinker