Anonymous asked in Society & CultureReligion & Spirituality · 1 decade ago

why do certain cults believe you must be baptized to be saved?

iccc, etc?

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  • gatita
    Lv 7
    1 decade ago
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    The Importance of Water Baptism

    Christian water baptism is an ordinance instituted by Jesus Christ. If it is not important in the plan of God, why did Jesus command it in Matthew 28:19? And why did Peter follow up by saying, "Be baptized every one of you," and by commanding the Gentiles to be baptized (Acts 2:38; 10:48)? We must remember two points about the importance of water baptism. First, whatever Christ definitely established and ordained cannot be unimportant, whether we understand its significance or not. Second, Christ and the apostles showed the importance of this ordinance by observing it. Jesus walked many miles to be baptized, though He was without sin, saying, "For thus it becometh us to fulfill all righteousness" (See Matthew 3:13-16.)

    It is true that water itself does not contain any saving virtue, but God has chosen to include it in His plan of salvation. Peter explained, "Baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ" (I Peter 3:21). According to Luke 7:30, "the Pharisees and lawyers rejected the counsel of God against themselves, being not baptized."

    According to the Scriptures, the proper mode of baptism is immersion. "And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water" (Matthew 3:16). "And they went down both into the water, both Philip and the eunuch; and he baptized him" (Acts 8:38). "Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death" (Romans 6:4). A corpse is not buried by placing it on top of the ground and sprinkling a little soil on it, but by covering it completely.

    Repentance identifies us with the death of Christ, and baptism identifies us with His burial. Coming forth from the watery grave of baptism and receiving new life in the Holy Spirit identifies us with His resurrection.

    In reference to the thief on the cross, we must understand the seven Dispensations of the Lord.

    * Innocence -- From the creation of man until the Fall

    * Conscience, or Moral Responsibility -- From the Fall until the flood

    * Human Government -- From the Flood until the call of Abram

    * Promise -- From the call of Abram until the Exodus

    * Law -- From Sinai until Christ : this was the time period in which Christ and the thief were crucified and at this time baptism was not required. Faith and repentance were all that was needed.

    * Grace -- From Pentecost until the Rapture : it is during this present dispensation that baptism is required as commanded by Jesus Christ. The law had been fulfilled and His death, burial and Resurrection ushered in the Dispensation of Grace.

    * Kingdom -- From the Rapture until the eternal state : this is the final dispensation which has yet to occur.

    Jesus commanded His disciples to "teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost" (Matthew 28:19). He did not command them to use these words as a formula, but He commanded them to baptize in "the name." The word name is used here in the singular, and it is the focal point of the baptismal command. The titles Father, Son, and Holy Ghost describe God's relationships to humanity and are not the supreme, saving name described here, which is Jesus. "Neither is there salvation in any other; for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved" (Acts 4:12).

    If baptism is unimportant then why did the Lord command His disciple to preach the gospel and BAPTIZE? Because it is the final step in the salvation process and is necessary for our salvation. This is not based upon human opinion, but upon the direct words and commandments of the Lord Jesus Christ.

    In His Name,


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    Source(s): KJV Bible 1611
  • 1 decade ago

    Baptism is a requirement for Christians.

    Jesus directed that his disciples be baptized. (Matthew 28:19, 20) In fact, Jesus himself submitted to baptism. To follow Christ, you need to be baptized when you’re mature enough to make that decision and have a genuine desire to do so.

    The main purpose of baptism is not to protect you from giving in to sin.

    Baptism is a public symbol of your dedication to God. Your dedication isn’t a cold contract that restrains you from doing things that you would secretly like to do. Rather, you dedicate your life to God because you want to live by his standards.

    Baptism puts you in line for salvation.

    The Bible says that baptism is an important step to gaining salvation. (1 Peter 3:21) This doesn’t mean, though, that baptism is like an insurance policy that you buy to protect yourself in case disaster should strike. You get baptized because you love Jehovah and want to serve him forever with your whole heart.—Mark 12:29, 30.

    Some people think that if you’re not baptized, you’re not accountable to God for your actions.

    James 4:17 states: “If one knows how to do what is right and yet does not do it, it is a sin for him”—baptized or not. So if you know what’s right and you’re mature enough to take a serious look at your life. In that way, you can learn how to progress toward baptism.

    Source(s): jehovah's witness,
  • 1 decade ago

    Since when is believing you must be baptized considered a cult?Baptism alone does not save you,but it is a part of salvation."He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved."There is nothing wrong with thinking baptism is necessary.If there is,tell me by using scripture!And I don't want to hear about the thief on the cross either!Baptism in Jesus name was not until after that,the Day of Pentecost.

  • 1 decade ago

    Well, I do believe the International Christian Community Churches might be considered a cult. Depends on your definition of the word cult. I think you mean religious devotion. Not the devotion and fanaticism associated with Star Wars, Harry Potter, Star Trek or Lord of the Rings. Those are OK, right? You could go with a more socially/morally acceptable group of churches like Catholic, Baptist, Lutheran, Methodist etc but they all believe in baptism. Not all believe that baptism is the sole means to salvation. Usually the preface is that Christ died on the cross to wash away our sins, so believing in Christ comes first. After He died the apostles started little pockets of "churches" secretly meeting in peoples homes. Initially the Christian churches were considered cults themselves by others of their times. Interesting question.

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  • ?
    Lv 7
    1 decade ago

    Jesus commanded we have a physical baptism.

    John 3:3,5 - Jesus says, "Truly, truly, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God." When Jesus said "water and the Spirit," He was referring to baptism (which requires the use of water, and the work of the Spirit).


    is done FOR the forgiveness of sins (Acts 2:38)

    is done to SAVE us (1Peter 3:21, Acts 2:40, Mark 16:16)

    Is done to WASH AWAY OUR SINS (Acts 22:16)

    is done to be REBORN to new life (John 3:5, Romans 6:3-6)

    is done to CLOTHE ourselves with Christ (Gal 3:26-27)

    is done so that GOD will RESURRECT us from death (Colossians 2:12, Romans 6:3-6)

    is done as a REQUIRMENT to enter heaven (John 3:5, Mark 16:16)

    is done to put us INTO CHRIST (Romans 6:3-6, Galatians 3:26-27, 1Corinthians 12:13)

    Peter explained what happens at baptism when he said, "Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins; and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit" (Acts 2:38). But he did not restrict this teaching to adults. He added, "For the promise is to you and to your children and to all that are far off, every one whom the Lord our God calls to him" (2:39). We also read: "Rise and be baptized, and wash away your sins, calling on his name" (Acts 22:16). These commands are universal, not restricted to adults. Further, these commands make clear the necessary connection between baptism and salvation, a

    connection explicitly stated in 1 Peter 3:21: "Baptism . . . now saves you, not as a removal of dirt from the body but as an appeal to God for a clear conscience, through the resurrection of Jesus Christ."

  • 1 decade ago

    Jesus Himself COMMANDED baptism!

    "Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:"

    Matthew 28:19

    "He that believeth and is BAPTIZED SHALL BE SAVED:....."

    Mark 16:16

  • 1 decade ago

    Throughout scripture it tells us to be baptized.

    In the baptisms in the New Testament there was: water -

    Acts 8:36, much water - John 3:23 a going into water - Acts 8:38,

    a coming out of water - Matthew 3:16, a burial - Romans 6:4,

    a resurrection - Romans 6:4-5, and a washing - Acts 22:16.

    The Greeks had a word for dip or immerse (baptizo), one for sprinkle

    (rhantizo), and one for pour (cheo). Jesus used the Greek word

    baptizo. Why? Because he didn't want his disciples to sprinkle or

    pour, he wanted them to immerse.

    From dictionaries we find that our English word baptize is derived

    from the Greek word baptizein which meant to immerse.

    Acts 8:35-38

    35 Then Philip opened his mouth, and began at the same scripture, and preached unto him Jesus. 36 And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain water: and the eunuch said, See, here is water; what doth hinder me to be baptized? 37 And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God. 38 And he commanded the chariot to stand still: and they went down both into the water, both Philip and the eunuch; and he baptized him.

    John 3:3-7

    3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

    4 Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born? 5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. 6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. 7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.

    Acts 2:38

    Then Peter said unto them, Repent, Be baptized in the name of Jesus for the remission of sin, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

    Mark 16:16

    He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

    Acts 10:48

    And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain day...why tarry? to receive the Holy Ghost.

    To be baptized is commanded of us and those that will obey will do it in the Name of Jesus.

    Source(s): Jesus Is Lord!
  • Troy F
    Lv 5
    1 decade ago

    Off the top of my head, I don't know of any "cults" that believe like that. I DO know of a few well-established CHURCHES that acknowledge this---I.E., Roman Catholic, Church of Christ, Apostolic Pentecostal, Eastern Orthodox...

    Additionally, I do know of some groups that are considered cultic that believe that baptism is necessary; however, you said "to be saved", and their concept of salvation is very different---I.E., living forever on "paradise earth", eternal progression, etc.

  • ehler
    Lv 4
    4 years ago

    particular, there is a few very harsh grievance coming from the JW camp. it is modern of their literature and likewise right here on R&S. Hadenough: Matthew 18:15 says that, " the experience that your brother commits a sin, bypass lay bare his fault between you and him on my own." that's a "finished" certainty that Jesus offered to us. yet then the Watchtower provides this... "The reporting of wrongdoing is an act of genuine undertaking for the criminal..." (Watchtower, August fifteenth, 1997, web site 30 "Why document what's undesirable?") So all of us started with Jesus' finished certainty, added a member of the Writing Committee's certainty, and now our Lord's contribution is seen to be a one million/2 certainty! in spite of the undeniable fact that ... ask your self whether divine certainty that's diluted with the critiques of adult males ought to truly be recognized as a "one million/2 certainty." yet wait ... it gets much extra ideal! unfavorable suggestions administration would properly be understood in terms of four ordinary factors, which form the acronym chew: one million. habit administration 2. information administration 3. concept administration 4. Emotional administration "Reporting" the sins of others falls into all 4 of those categories. JWs save their habit in line because of fact they be attentive to that something would desire to be uncovered by all and sundry at any time. The management has administration over reported information that can and could be used against contributors who coach to be uncooperative. while you're meant to document each and every little thing, then there is no ought to apply your individual suggestions in figuring out what ought to be printed and what can stay inner maximum. final yet no longer least, the consistent worry of being reported is a sort of EMOTIONAL administration. Now, Hadenough, possibly you notice why the Society thinks it is so important to "document what's undesirable" even however Jesus informed us to be certain sin making use of the smallest quantity of brothers and sisters as achievable. Does it even count what he thinks? Or will we ought to get the dedicated Slave's stamp of approval first? that is not observed as "distortion." it is observed as examining your Bible without consulting Watchtower learn aids that inform you what you're meant to have self assurance. in case you are trying this, you're able to locate some issues which you probably did no longer be attentive to have been there OR, possibly, you will view the old information with "new" eyes.

  • Tess
    Lv 4
    1 decade ago

    Midge, Gatitta, tebone, looks like you have the topic cleared right up!

    Critic also had interesting input.

    'There is a likeness which NOW SAVES US, namely BAPTISM, not putting away the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good concience toward God'

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