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Anonymous asked in Society & CultureReligion & Spirituality · 1 decade ago

Are fundamentalists committing idol worship by worshiping the Bible and not God?

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By using the New Testament you are also recognizing the teaching authority and legitimacy of the original universal Church. Some people call it Catholic

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  • 1 decade ago
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    You think?The Bible is not a textbook for life.That's just bibleidoltry.

    It does seem to be their mis-interpretation of the Decalogue commonly known as the Ten Commandments.

    Well, our icons and statues and paintings aren't idols, because we don't worship them. However, I'll give you a serious answer. A good explanation that I read once went something like this: under the old Law men were not allowed to create images of God specifically because, due to the heavily pagan surroundings, there was a possibility that the Hebrews over time might come to mistake the representation as God. God had not yet revealed himself in any physical form. However, the Divine was eventually revealed in physical form in Jesus. Because of this, it is now acceptable to portray God and others (angels, saints, etc.).

    Of course, it's important to remember that even in the Old Testament some "graven images" were acceptable if they were used in a religious context. These images included the cherubim on the Ark and the bronze snake that Moses used to cure the Israelites of plague. Of course, worship of these images was and is unacceptable.

    The Roman Catholic and particularly the Orthodox Churches cite St. John of Damascus' work "On the Divine Image" to defend the use of icons. He wrote in direct response to the iconoclastic controversy that began in the eighth century by the Byzantine emperor Leo III and continued by his successor Constantine V. St. John maintains that depicting the invisible God is indeed wrong, but he argues that the incarnation, where "the Word became flesh" (John 1:14), indicates that the invisible God became visible, and as a result it is permissible to depict Jesus Christ. He argues, "When He who is bodiless and without form... existing in the form of God, empties Himself and takes the form of a servant in substance and in stature and is found in a body of flesh, then you draw His image..." He also observes that in the Old Testament, images and statues were not absolutely condemned in themselves: examples include the graven images of cherubim over the Ark of the Covenant (Exodus 25:18-22) which God instructed Moses to make, the embroidered figures of cherubim angels which God told Moses to make on the curtain which separated the Holy of Holies in the Tabernacle tent (Exodus 26:31), or the bronze serpent mentioned in the book of Numbers. He also defends external acts of honour towards icons, arguing that there are "different kinds of worship" and that the honour shown to icons differs entirely from the adoration of God. He continues by citing Old Testament examples of forms of "honour": "Jacob bowed to the ground before Esau, his brother, and also before the tip of his son Joseph's staff (Genesis 33:3). He bowed down, but did not adore. Joshua, the Son of Nun, and Daniel bowed in veneration before an angel of God (Joshua 5:14) but they did not adore him. For adoration is one thing, and that which is offered in order to honour something of great excellence is another". He cites St. Basil who asserts, "the honour given to the image is transferred to its prototype". St. John argues therefore that venerating an image of Christ does not terminate at the image itself - the material of the image is not the object of worship - rather it goes beyond the image, to the prototype.

    The offering of veneration in the form of latreía (the veneration due God) is doctrinally forbidden by the Orthodox Church; however veneration of religious pictures or Icons in the form of douleía is not only allowed but obligatory. Some outside observers find it difficult to distinguish these two levels of veneration in practice, but the distinction is maintained and taught by believers in many of the hymns and prayers that are sung and prayed throughout the liturgical year.

    Veneration of icons through latreía was codified in the Seventh Ecumenical Council during the Byzantine Iconoclast controversy, in which St. John of Damascus was pivotal. Icon veneration is also practiced in the Catholic Church, which accepts the declarations of the Seventh Ecumenical Council, but it is practiced to a lesser extent, since Latin-rite Catholics today do not usually prostrate and kiss icons, and the Second Vatican Council enjoined moderation in the use of images. Eastern-rite Catholics still use icons in their Divine Liturgy, however.

    And may I also add, in most protestant churches there is an image of a cross. They honor the cross and sing about it. They are told to come to the foot of the cross. No one thinks that someone praying in front of a cross is worshiping the cross as a god.

    For a long time, most people were illiterate. Images, wether statues or stain glass windows or paintings depicting Christ, His life, His teachings and other important Biblical figures, were used to catechise people and remind them of the glory of Christ. Nowadays there are movies, books, posters, cartoons, CDs, bumper stickers, t-shirts and pictures used at Sunday school classes.

    Cities are full of works of art and similarly in our homes we see art. Perhaps there are photos (not around in Christ’s time) hanging on the wall or statues or gnomes in the garden etc.

    Source(s): They make our house look nice; and statues etc make a church, the house of God, look nice too. The most obvious example of an image would be a nativity set at Christmastime or the fish symbol used by early Christians. In our personal lives it would be photographs, reminding us of a summers at the beach and loved ones past. Photos in history books too. There are statues of Presidents in Washington and portraits of Kings and Queens in London. God forbids the worship of images as God, in lieu of the 10 commandments. He does not however ban the making of images, as long as they are not worshipped.
  • 1 decade ago

    The approach to authority is very different in the ancient Church than in the modernist Protestant church. The Catholic Church follows the “Word of God alone” while the Protestant ecclesiastical groups follow Sola Scriptura which states that only God’s written word is authoritative. The latter is a sixteenth century man made doctrine designed to destroy the unity of the Church and fragments the entire body of Christ by exponentially increasing schisms caused by accepting only part of God’s word by the Protestants. Sola Scriptura is not a doctrine for a better understanding of the Logos but instead is designed to circumvent the legitimate authority of the Church given by Christ.

    It is the belief of the ancient Church that is the Magisterium of the Church that has the authority given by Christ to expound on, recognize and guard the Word of God. The Word of God is not only the written Scriptures but all that is handed to the Church by the Holy Spirit. In so doing and carrying out her responsibility the Church is the true servant of the Word.

    God’s people have never been Sola Scriptura advocates. In Jesus’ day the orthodox Jews were not, nor were Jesus or the apostles. The continuation Sola Verbum Dei is a theological continuation of God’s Word from the Old Covenant to the New. The only ones who believed in anything resembling Sola Scriptura were the Sadducees who were the theological liberals of their day. We know that the first century Christians did not believe in Sola Scriptura by the teaching of St. Paul in Holy writ:

    (2Th 2:15 DRB) (2:14) Therefore, brethren, stand fast: and hold the traditions, which you have learned, whether by word or by our epistle.

    The Church teaches that the Word of God is the Logos:

    (Joh 1:1 DRB) In the beginning was the Word: and the Word was with God: and the Word was God.

    (Joh 1:2 DRB) The same was in the beginning with God.

    (Joh 1:3 DRB) All things were made by him: and without him was made nothing that was made.

    (Joh 1:4 DRB) In him was life: and the life was the light of men.

    So the question among Christians should not be what is the Word but instead how is the Word revealed to man. To the Protestant the Word is only revealed in written form called Sola Scriptura. To the Catholic Christian the word has a much broader meaning and is revealed to man in more than a written form where men were inspired to reveal God’s Word. Catholics believe that inspiration is not only personal as with the biblical writers but is also revealed to and through the Church such as in the Ecumenical Councils and through the authority exercised through the Church to recognize, guard, interpret and teach the Word. The Church throughout history has faithfully exercised her authority to guard the word of God against the attacks of heresies, such as Sola Scriptura.

    In Christ

    Fr. Joseph

  • 4 years ago

    There are a total of 6 bible verses against homosexuality. However, there's a bunch of other rules no one follows, so what the hell gives them the right to make us follow a rule only mentioned six times in a freaking thousand page book?

  • 1 decade ago

    If I had a quarter (inflation, you know) for every time that some arrogant, ignorant fundamentalist whined, "Where is that in the BY-bul?" when a point of Catholic doctrine is brought up, I'd buy everybody in R&S a grape Popsicle when the ice cream truck comes around this afternoon.

    And if I had another quarter for all the desperate attempts at revisionist history that they make ("Them heathern pagan Mary-worshipin' idolaterizin' Kathlics did NOT give us the By-Bul -- so there!"), I'd buy a Dairy Queen franchise and we'd all sit around and eat Peanut Buster parfaits until we had to call in the paramedics.

    Source(s): Catholic convert who could use some ice cream on this heckaciously hot Missouri afternoon
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  • 1 decade ago

    I see your point here but they have nothing else seeing as they have separated themselves from the riches of the Catholic church and have lost out in respect of the sacraments and much more.

    Over the years they have sanitised the Bible to the degree that it has become clinical and every day tens of thousands are adding and subtracting from scripture to make it fit their perspective, so in this sense it could well be seen as idol worship.

  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    Christian Fundamentalist is a complete contradiction in terms!!

    CHRISTIAN – A follower or believer in Jesus.

    FUNDAMENTALIST One who believes the Bible is literally true and must be followed exactly.

    Therefore they are followers of the bible and not Jesus making them non Christians!!!

    But worse is to follow it also makes them ideologists.

    IDEOLOGY An idea that is false or held for the wrong reasons but is believed with such conviction as to be irrefutable.

    So Christians have a loving and forgiving god and fundamentalist - well - Just are not Christians!!!!

  • jm1970
    Lv 6
    1 decade ago

    PLEASE don't stoop to the silliness we see from some of our Protestant brothers and sisters...this is a silly, generalized question.

    Fundamentalist do not worship the Bible and you know it. They follow the scriptures because they are the written words of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit that we both worship.

    You know that...stop being silly and trying to start silly arguments...as the Proverb says "Do not answer a fool in his folly and such become like him."

    I was raised protestant and converted as an adult. I read my Bible every night as I was taught to as a child, as I teach my children to. Because I worship the author, creator and finisher of our faith, Jesus Christ.

    And the original universal church is often referred to as catholic (no capital C)...that is what the term catholic originally means..this does not mean the Roman Catholic Church...even in our creed...look the C is not capital!

  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    Absolutely that is what there doing even tho they do not see it. Just like JW's do the name Jehovah or Seventh Day Adventist do with the Sabbath day.

  • Yes this is precisely what fundamentalists do.

    They give the Bible god like qualities (innerrant etc) and treat it with great reverence, what is this but idolatry?

  • 1 decade ago

    Many do. I like to remind them that it is 'Father, Son and Holy Spirit' not Father, Son and Holy Bible...

    Source(s): Assoc. Religious Studies
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