I know Jews dont recognize jesus as messiah or christ, but what is the jews thoughts on the miracles and?
I understand that jews recognize him as a prophet, but as the only magician prophet? Do they not count the miracles or seet hem as miracles, but more as never actually happening?
Do they have an opinion on the resurrection?
Assumign Jesus actually exsiting, It seems the only thing seperating
jesus from being jsut another prophet and being not only the messiah, but god's kid, would be his miracle and the resurrection. It appears that there were a lot of people claiming to be the messiah or other people claiming people to be the messiah, so jesus saying he is, is not that big a deal. Did anyone else claim to not only be the messiah, but also that god was their pops?
- 1 decade agoFavorite Answer
In short here are the reasons Jesus is irrelevant to Judasim (he isn't mentioned, isn't a teacher, or rabbi, nor prophet):
- There is a list of expectations of the messiah (I'll post below). Jezus didn't do any of them. He did miracles which is a sign of not-the-messiah.
- the Jewish messiah concept is a human being who does things like bring peace with the help of God. The Christ concept --of being saved from sin by human or human-God sacrifice-- is totally alien to Judaism & to the Jewish messiah concept.
- The OT is not the same as the Jewish Tanakh. It's quite similar, however there are small changes throughout that result in support for Christian theology. All those predictions go away when you use the Tanakh & the in-context Jewish understandings of them.
- Judaism in general is very different than Christianity in many ways. While a Christ concept is central to Christianity, the focus on it when looking at Judaism pretty much misses most everything there is of importance in Judaism. Briefly, Tikkun Olam (focus on this world & repairing it), a steady dialog for over 4000 years of how to live THIS life morally based on Torah, a style of doing that dialog that isn't in Christianity but is central to being Jewish, a whole complicated list of wonderful religious days, a way of being just one religion amoung others where non-Jews too can have a place in the world to come.
Hope that helps. This is the first question every Christian seems to ask us. If you do a search in YA you may find any number of posts with answers to this with more details.
Here's a good starting point to learn about Judaism:
Written for jews to learn more about Judasim so gives a sense of how Judasm works (including that study style - the essays have that flow)
Answers common Christian questions
Cool interfaith site that gives a Christian view of Judaism by clerics
The idea of "do unto others" was in Judaism before Jesus said it (the sage Hillel is famous for it & it's in Levitcus). So Jesus basically didn't bring anything morally that is new to Judaism, & left out some stuff. So, there's no need from that point of view to adopt him either.
Here's the list:
* The Sanhedrin will be re-established (Isaiah 1:26)
* Once he is King, leaders of other nations will look to him for guidance. (Isaiah 2:4)
* The whole world will worship the One God of Israel (Isaiah 2:17)
* He will be descended from King David (Isaiah 11:1) via King Solomon (1 Chron. 22:8-10)
* The Moshiach will be a man of this world, an observant Jew with "fear of God" (Isaiah 11:2)
*****In other words - this must all be accomplished in a human lifetime*****
* Evil and tyranny will not be able to stand before his leadership (Isaiah 11:4)
* Knowledge of God will fill the world (Isaiah 11:9)
* He will include and attract people from all cultures and nations (Isaiah 11:10)
* All Israelites will be returned to their homeland (Isaiah 11:12)
* Death will be swallowed up forever (Isaiah 25:8)
* There will be no more hunger or illness, and death will cease (Isaiah 25:8)
* All of the dead will rise again (Isaiah 26:19)
* The Jewish people will experience eternal joy and gladness (Isaiah 51:11)
* He will be a messenger of peace (Isaiah 52:7)
* Nations will end up recognizing the wrongs they did to Israel (Isaiah 52:13-53:5)
* The peoples of the world will turn to the Jews for spiritual guidance (Zechariah 8:23)
* The ruined cities of Israel will be restored (Ezekiel 16:55)
* Weapons of war will be destroyed (Ezekiel 39:9)
* The Temple will be rebuilt (Ezekiel 40) resuming many of the suspended mitzvot
* He will then perfect the entire world to serve God together (Zephaniah 3:9)
* Jews will know the Torah without Study (Jeremiah 31:33)
* He will give you all the desires of your heart (Psalms 37:4)
* He will take the barren land and make it abundant and fruitful (Isaiah 51:3, Amos 9:13-15, Ezekiel 36:29-30, Isaiah 11:6-9).
Thanks to Mark S and Plushy Bear (& Siva's posting of it.)
Finally, there are a few sites & sources that really go into this. They aren't necessarily written PC style, but do have details like Hebrew quotes:
As for any messanics that answer. They are Christians in belief. They originally called themselves Jews to make it easier to convert Jews. Then that didn't work so they took on a few Jewish rituals & declared themselves a false branch of Judaism as a way to shove Christianity on us against our will.
I say this so their answers don't confuse your perceptions.
- SusanLv 44 years ago
Politically speaking In order to be believed Jesus needed to be accepted by the majority of the Sanhedrin and the people. This did not happen. Although there was some support in the Sanhedrin it very small. Some of the leaders did not want to lose their power. Others had a different idea of who the Messiah was supposed to be. With the people the support was greater but not enough. Spiritually speaking Jesus did not fulfill all the Messianic Prophecies during his life time. Some Jews will say that he did not fulfill any of the prophecies. This is a new development on Yahoo. Over a year ago most would say "all". I will leave it to the reader as to why this change in opinion came about.
- Anonymous1 decade ago
Jews don't recognize Jesus as a prophet.
You are correct when you say that many people contemporary with Jesus were claiming to be the Jewish Messiah. It should at least give you pause that the vast majority of Jews at the time were not convinced that Jesus was the Messiah, that they dismissed him just like all the others.
Also, Jews don't believe that God incarnates in human form, so anyone claiming this is already on the fringes of Judaism. Whether you believe that Jesus himself claimed to be divine or whether you think that claim was made on his behalf, mainstream Judaism isn't having it. The case for Jesus as Messiah actually would have been stronger if the whole 'divinity/son of God' aspect had never arose.
- Anonymous1 decade ago
answer: Eric is correct - Jews don't consider Jesus a prophet, he taught nothing new. He's irrelevant to Judaism and Jews rarely think about him except when asked by Christians to explain why he couldn't have been the Jewish Messiah.
Miracles were a common practice among would-be messiahs and priests of many deities of that era. Were they legit miracles? Does Criss Angel perform miracles? Others were contenders for the title of Jewish Messiah but they fell short as well. Usually those claiming to be offspring of deities were among pagan religions or secular occupied territories - like the secular area of Judea.
Miracles actually proved that Jesus wasn't the messiah - that's a sign of a false prophet in Judaism.
Rising from the dead? Ridiculous. That would mean G-d had a son or was Himself in human form and G-d cannot become human and does not have offspring.
Reasons Jesus wasn’t the Jewish Messiah: divine birth/divinity - strike (the Jewish Messiah will be human)
performing miracles - strike (JM won't perform miracles)
taking on the sins of others - strike (no one can take on the sins of others)
breaking Sabbath - strike (JM will be observant)
sacrificed/rising from the dead - strike (G-d rejects human sacrifice)
prophecies unfilled - strike (JM will accomplish them in one life time)
being worshiped - strike and out - Jews worship G-d and only G-d
I will not execute the fierceness of mine anger, I will not return to destroy Ephraim: for I am God, and not a man; the Holy One in the midst of thee: and I will not enter into the city. [Hosea 11:9]
God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the Son of Man, that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do it? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good? [Numbers 23:19]
Hear, O Israel: The Eternal is our God, the Eternal is one. [Deuteronomy 6:4]
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- Anonymous1 decade ago
Your understanding is WRONG--we DO NOT recognize Jesus as a prophet. Far from it, we don't recognize him as anything. He is of no importance to us whatsoever. He may or may not have existed--if he did he was just another man--but whether he existed or not is of no importance to us.
As another Jew has warned you, you may hear from Christians who call themselves "messianic Jews" who will insist that Jews believe in Jesus! Don't be fooled.Source(s): Reform Jew
- ginaLv 61 decade ago
They do not deny his existance or that he was a good man but that is all.They are still waiting for the Messiah.Note what the Bible says:
(Acts 5:34-39) But a certain man rose in the San′he‧drin, a Pharisee named Ga‧ma′li‧el, a Law teacher esteemed by all the people, and gave the command to put the men outside for a little while. 35 And he said to them: “Men of Israel, pay attention to yourselves as to what YOU intend to do respecting these men. 36 For instance, before these days Theu′das rose, saying he himself was somebody, and a number of men, about four hundred, joined his party. But he was done away with, and all those who were obeying him were dispersed and came to nothing. 37 After him Judas the Gal‧i‧le′an rose in the days of the registration, and he drew off people after him. And yet that man perished, and all those who were obeying him were scattered abroad. 38 And so, under the present circumstances, I say to YOU, Do not meddle with these men, but let them alone; (because, if this scheme or this work is from men, it will be overthrown; 39 but if it is from God, YOU will not be able to overthrow them;) otherwise, YOU may perhaps be found fighters actually against God.”
Have you ever thought about how for centuries God's word was opposed destroyed and it's copiers burned as heretics ?Have you ever thought about a little insignificant town of Bethlehem and carpenter's son being so famous he is a household name all over the world?The Bible every year is a best seller and every household can have one if they want it all around the world.That is not by chance. Have you ever read the prophecies in Matthew 24 Luke 21 and Mark 13 ?It is like reading todays newspaper and Jesus spoke these words over 2000 years ago. No man can do that.Jesus fulfilled every prophecy,where he would be born,how he would die,not a bone in his body would be broken at his death,no man can plan such things as these.
- livestiumLv 61 decade ago
I agree with Eric K, freezer burned atheist (cool name by the way)
"The case for Jesus as Messiah actually would have been stronger if the whole 'divinity/son of God' aspect had never arose."
Thats true, The one reason for the Gospel of Peter being labelled as heresy was that Peters version claims that Jesus didn't suffer on the cross, according to Christian tradition he did and he had to.
"And they brought two malefactors, and crucified the Lord between them. But he kept silence, as one feeling no pain."
But Peters version actually supports the prophecy made in Isaiah 53: 4-9 of the suffering servant, who according to Isaiah suffered in silence, if they had stuck with the original text, Jesus would have fulfilled another part of Prophecy
Surely our griefs He Himself bore, And our sorrows He carried; Yet we ourselves esteemed Him stricken, Smitten of God, and afflicted. (5) But He was pierced through for our transgressions, He was crushed for our iniquities; The chastening for our well-being fell upon Him, And by His scourging we are healed. (6) All of us like sheep have gone astray, Each of us has turned to his own way; But the LORD has caused the iniquity of us all To fall on Him. (7) He was oppressed and He was afflicted, Yet He did not open His mouth; Like a lamb that is led to slaughter, And like a sheep that is silent before its shearers, So He did not open His mouth. (8) By oppression and judgment He was taken away; And as for His generation, who considered That He was cut off out of the land of the living For the transgression of my people, to whom the stroke was due? (9) His grave was assigned with wicked men, Yet He was with a rich man in His death, Because He had done no violence, Nor was there any deceit in His mouth.
what we get is one Jesus fulfils several parts of prophecy and the other orthodox version of Jesus fulfils none.
- Anonymous1 decade ago
why do so many people think this?
in Judaism we do NOT "recognize jesus as a prophet" this is simply false.
Jesus plays *ZERO* part in Judaism whatsoever.
the problem with Jesus is he did not fulfill the prophecys. period.