Who do you think Palestine belongs to? Arabs or Jews?
I've been told that Palestine belongs to the Arabs, but just recently I've been told that it belongs to the Jews. I'm genuinly curious, so please give me ur answer and then an explanation on why!!
- Anonymous1 decade agoFavorite Answer
It belongs to the native population of Palestine that lived there before the start of the European Zionist immigration in the 1st half of the 20th Century. Those are the people we call today "the Palestinians", who are mostly Muslim (80%), but included significant Christian and Jewish minorities (20%).
I suggest reading the factual brief history of the conflict below, which puts the conflict more in perspective of facts rather than generalizations:
The seed of this conflict was planted in 1882 when the Zionist movement started with a group of secular (non-religious) European Jews to establish a homeland for the Jews in Palestine. Up to the 1920's, Jews lived in peace with Muslims and Christians in Palestine for about 1300 years (except when the European Crusaders killed all the Jews and Muslims in Jerusalem 900 years ago). Most of the Jews who lived in Palestine till then were Arabs.
When Britain occupied Palestine during World War 1, they gave a declaration (Balfour Declaration 1917) to the Zionist Federation that they will facilitate establishing a national home for the Jews in Palestine. There was one big problem however: the land already was populated by native Arabs (Mostly Muslim, but with significant Christian 7% and Jewish minorities 9%).
Britain opened the door to Jewish immigration from Europe, which increased in the 1930's and 1940's because of Nazism and the Holocaust. In 1948 the Jews made up 33% of the population of Palestine, but owned only 7% of the land. The UN voted to split Palestine 55% for the Jews and 45% for the Palestinians to establish a Jewish and Arab States in Palestine, and to make Jerusalem an internationally controlled area. War broke out between the Arabs and Jews in 1948 and the Jews occupied 80% of Palestine and established Israel on it. In the process Israel ethnically cleansed (forcibly removed) 80% of the Palestinians from the land they occupied and destroyed and depopulated more than 400 Palestinian villages, massacred thousands of Palestinians and made 0.75 million Palestinians refugees.
The UN voted in 1948 (Security Council Resolutions 93 and General Assembly Res. 194) to tell Israel to allow the Palestinian refugees to return to their homes, but until today Israel never complied. In 1967 Israel militarily occupied the remainder of Palestine (The West Bank and the Gaza Strip). The Security Council again voted in 1967 and 1973 that Israel return to the 1967 borders and allow the refugees to return, but Israel never complied (Security Council Res. 237, 242, 338).
This gives you a brief history of the roots of the problem. The Palestinians now negotiate to get only the lands occupied in 1967 back to establish their own state on it, and for Israel to allow the deposed people in 1948 and 1967 to return to their original homes.
Israel is only accepting to return only parts of the lands occupied in 1967. The land they accept to return has no borders with the outside world (making it an effective jail guarded by the Israelis). They also refuse to allow the refugees to return. They also have built many illegal settlements in the West Bank and planted nearly 500,000 Israeli extremists in them. Israel has taken control of nearly 5/6 of the water resources in the West Bank, and has built an apartheid wall that dwarfs the Berlin wall around and through Palestinian cities and villages in the West Bank ( http://chromovision.com/films then select Wallofhate.wmv ). They also refuse to return East Jerusalem, which is part of the West Bank, to the Palestinians.
Again this is a very brief background. It in no way describes the daily suffering, abuse, humiliation, terror and deprivation of basic human rights the Israelis inflict on the Palestinians.
You can get more information from Wikipedia in the link below:Source(s): If you prefer documentaries, the following two comprehensive documentaries are the best you can find on the subject: 1) Peace, Propaganda and the Promised Land (79 minutes) http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-660477589... 2) Occupation 101 (88 minutes) http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-245190845... This recent one from CBS 60 Minutes program (Jan 2009) is also a good one (13 minutes) http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=4752349n
- 1 decade ago
This is a tiny piece of land the Arabs conquered from the Jews two thousand years ago. And now it was given back to the Jews - and the Jews had no other land. The Palestinians are arabs, and the arabs has millions of square kilometers other places. Don't get intimidated by the fact the Palestinians has nowhere to go. This is a weapon, not a reality.
Look at how other nations has at some point accepted it when they lost territory. Like this: a large part of Eastern Germany was given to Poland and Russia after WW2.
The Germans there had to flee. They were integrated in other parts of Germany.
As you may know, Germany isn't really one nation, but a union of nations, a union based on the nationalities in a sense basically "feel like one".. Much the same as the arabs not have a union, but could have had it, because they believe themselves to be one nation.
So, my point? The arabs did not accept their refugees. They placed them in camps. They want to have them in camps, until Israel is thrown on the ocean. Had the Germans followed the same strategy, there would still have been masses of refugee camps with people living in miserable tents along the border between Poland and Germany...
And there would have been constant harassment from this camps, into Poland, and constant bombings of them, from Poland.
Do you also want an explanation why there is no future for the palestinians? It's because, the arab leaders generally want it that way. They could have accepted their loss of a tiny bit of land, and made the best of it for their people, but they don't: it's more important for them to hate Israel, than to love their own children. The palestinians are the victims of Arab strategy. And this war is a result of the arabs not just getting over it, and integrating their refugees, and not asking for rematch all the time.
Someone who truly wanted what was the best for the palestinians, would probably want them to accept Israel exists, and then _do what is best for the Palestinians, based on this_.
But this person would have been regarded as not pro-palestinian by the mobs now a days.
- 4 years ago
It was Jewish land long before the Arabs lived there.Palestine is a term coined by the Romans for the state of Israel to deny the Jewish presence there .Jews have always lived in Israel to some extent. Palestine the term has a much longer history in the Jewish community than in the Arab community
- gcbtradingLv 71 decade ago
It was a British territory which was comprised of Arabs and Jews.
It was apportioned to each of them and each was given the opportunity to build a nation.
The Jews built the nation of Israel and it thrived. They invited other jews from around the world to come home to Israel.
The Arabs adopted the British name (Originally Roman) of Palestine and squandered their opportunity to build a nation.
They live today in squalor as self-imposed refugees.
So in answer to your question, the former Palestine territory belongs in part to the Jews in Israel, the other part to the Arabs in what they call Palestine
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- sillycanuckpeiLv 41 decade ago
That's a hard thing to answer...historically, Palestine was a Jewish area (even back in Jesus' time) but when Israel became a (Jewish homeland) country in 1948, Palestine was given to the Arabs as sort of a peace offering. Obviously, this didn't work well.
- Anonymous1 decade ago
Palestine belongs to Jews.
- Anonymous1 decade ago
Well that is a hard question, the way I figure it is it belongs to everybody who is christan, jewish, or muslim. considering all three religions grew out of that stretch of sand. That's the biggest problem! to many people think it belongs to them!. Until everybody in that region learns to live together, form governments without exclusionary laws, take pride in their community, and stop playing the victim there will never be peace.
- Bostonian In MOLv 71 decade ago
Jew is a religious group.
Arab is an ethno-cultural group.
There are Arabs who are Jewish.
There are Israelis who are not Jewish.
There are Palestinians who are Jewish, Christian & Muslim and probably a few atheists as well.
The land currently occupied by Israelis and Palestinians has traded hands between the 2 nations a number of times over the past few thousand years. Both claim it as their exclusive homeland, largely to the exclusion of the other. This is the principal reason that there is so much strife over the issue to this date.
- Anonymous1 decade ago
It belongs to the jews.
Years ago that portion of Israel was taken from the jews and given to palestine.
- Kinkade 0001Lv 61 decade ago
Palestine is a region named by the Romans. They got mad at the Jews and Renamed Judea Palestine. 2000 years later the British took the land and divided it between the Jews and the Arabs. The British bought the Arabs help in WWII with a land grant 75% of the available land (Modern Jordan). The Jews, well, they would have fought Hitler anyway, so the British gave them the remaining 25% which was mostly desert. The Arabs didn’t like this arrangement, they wanted it all. They went to war and lost badly. Today the Arabs have a state, Jordan, and the Jews have Israel, but the Arabs still want all the land. In the 1970’s a group of Arabs, mostly Jordanians, and Egyptians declared themselves Palestinian and claimed all the Jews land, they’ve been fighting to take it from them ever since.
Hatem: Since it's obvious which side you're on from the less than accurate links you provided, maybe you should take your own advice and do some research from a source other than Hamas or the PLO.
Israel has never ethnically cleansed anyone, and in 1948 most of the Arabs left the Israeli land without ever even seeing a soldier.
Factually, you are lacking. The British gave 75% of the mandate land to Arabs, period. This is the modern State of Jordan (called Trans Jordan before they invaded the West Bank). Of the remaining 25% they drafted a plan to give 55% for the Jews and 45% to displace Arabs collectively referred to as Palestinians. The Palestinians rejected this idea and in 1948 they attack Israel and lost.
“In 1967 Israel militarily occupied the remainder of Palestine (The West Bank and the Gaza Strip).”
Actually, those territories were captured from Israel in 1948 by Jordan and Egypt respectively NOT some fictitious Palestinian state. Egypt and Jordan held those lands for 19 years until Israel won them back in the 6 day war. ALL Arabs living in the West Bank at that time were Jordanian Citizens, not Palestinians.
If you want a historical perspective here it is.
In 1923, the British divided the "Palestine" portion of the Ottoman Empire into two administrative districts. Jews would be permitted only west of the Jordan river. In effect, the British had "chopped off" 75% of the originally proposed Jewish Palestinian homeland to form an Arab Palestinian nation called Trans-Jordan (meaning "across the Jordan River"). This territory east of the Jordan River was given to Emir Abdullah (from Hejaz, now Saudi Arabia) who was not even an Arab-"Palestinian!" This portion of Palestine was renamed Trans-Jordan. Trans-Jordan and would again be renamed "Jordan" in 1946. In other words, the eastern 3/4 of Palestine would be renamed TWICE, in effect, erasing all connection to the name "Palestine!" However, the bottom line is that the Palestinian Arabs had THEIR "Arab Palestinian" homeland. The remaining 25% of Palestine (now WEST of the Jordan River) was to be the Jewish Palestinian homeland. However, sharing was not part of the Arab psychological makeup then nor now.
Encouraged and incited by growing Arab nationalism throughout the Middle East, the Arabs of that small remaining Palestinian territory west of the Jordan River launched never-ending murderous attacks upon the Jewish Palestinians in an effort to drive them out. Most terrifying were the Hebron massacres of 1929 and later during the 1936-39 "Arab Revolt." The British at first tried to maintain order but soon (due to the large oil deposits being discovered throughout the Arab Middle East) turned a blind eye. It became painfully clear to the Palestinian Jews that they must fight the Arabs AND drive out the British.
The Palestinian Jews were forced to form an organized defense against the Arabs Palestinians.... thus was formed the Hagana, the beginnings of the Israeli Defense Forces [IDF]. There was also a Jewish underground called the Irgun led by Menachem Begin (who later became Prime Minister of Israel). Besides fighting the Arabs, the Irgun was instrumental in driving out the pro-Arab British. Finally in 1947 the British had enough and turned the Palestine matter over to the United Nations.
The 1947 U.N. Resolution 181 partition plan was to divide the remaining 25% of Palestine into a Jewish Palestinian State and a SECOND Arab Palestinian State (Trans-Jordan being the first) based upon population concentrations. The Jewish Palestinians accepted... the Arab Palestinians rejected. The Arabs still wanted ALL of Palestine... both east AND west of the Jordan River.
Our Palestinian Cousins started the '48 war, and in so doing released the warlike appetites of a nation of survivors, a people with no place to run, who had repressed their rage for millennia, and had now earned full title to it!
On May 14, 1948 the "Palestinian" Jews finally declared their own State of Israel and became "Israelis." On the next day, seven neighboring Arab armies... Egypt, Jordan, Syria, Lebanon, Saudi Arabia, Iraq and Yemen... invaded Israel. Most of the Arabs living within the boundaries of the newly declared "ISRAEL" were encouraged to leave by the invading Arab armies to facilitate the slaughter of the Jews and were promised to be given all Jewish property after the victorious Arab armies won the war. The truth is that 70% of the Arab Palestinians who left in 1948 – perhaps 300,000 to 400,000 of them – never saw an Israeli soldier! They did not flee because they feared Jewish thugs, but because of a rational and reasonable calculus: the Jews will be exterminated; we will get out of the way while that messy and dangerous business goes forward, and we will return afterwards to reclaim our homes, and to inherit those nice Jewish properties as well. They guessed wrong; and the Arab Palestinians are still tortured by the residual shame of their flight. Their shame is so great because in their eyes running from Jews was like running from women. So much for the blatant lie about Jews throwing out all the [Palestinian] Arabs!
The remaining 30% either (1) saw for themselves that these Jews would fight and die for their new nation and decided to pack up and leave or (2) were driven off the land as a normal consequence of war.
When the 19 month war ended, Israel survived despite a 1% loss of its entire population! Those Arabs who did not flee became today's Israeli-Arab citizens. Those who fled became the seeds of the first wave of "Palestinian Arab refugees."
The Arab propagandists and apologists almost never mentioned that in 1948, Arab armies launched a war against a one-day-old Israel. Instead he focused on the main consequence of that war: the creation of Arab refugees, stating that Israel "short of genocide" expelled 800,000 of them. This not only disagrees with UN estimates of a bit over 400,000 refugees but also ignores the fact that most of the Arabs/Palestinians were encouraged to leave by the Arab World itself!Source(s): http://www.palestinefacts.org/pf_early_palestine_n... http://www.eretzyisroel.org/~jkatz/ http://www.masada2000.org/historical.html http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTI...