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Anonymous asked in Arts & HumanitiesGenealogy · 1 decade ago

Help on possible maternal great-great grandfather?

I'm looking for some help on the 1st link (Ancestry Family Trees) on this link.

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/ask

I thought it's possible this could be my great-great grandfather, since a lot of information matches up well. It's a hint I received on Ancestry.com, when I put in the information for my maternal grandmother's father. It's possible this could be him. I don't know much about my grandmother's grandparents, in terms of where they were born. What I do know though is that there was some wealth. I'm pretty sure they were American-born too.

Here's what we know:

My grandmother (Margaret Clark) was born on Aug 12, 1919, in Brooklyn, NY. Her father (James Clark) was born on Nov 18, 1880. He was probably born in Brooklyn, NY too. This guy supposedly own lofts in the Garment District and apartment buildings in Brooklyn in the late 1880's. The reason why I believe it could possibly be here is because it says he was born March 3, 1853, which would be a realistic age to my great-grandfather who was born in 1880. Also, it says he died in New York. I've tried researching John M. Clark on any searches (ex. Familysearch.org), but I didn't have much luck, because it's somewhat of a popular name.It says he was born in Hardeman (county), Tennessee. Chances are, this isn't him. As you've probably heard me say before, my grandmother's says expressions and pronounces something things ''southernly'', so you never know.

Update:

http://trees.ancestry.com/pt/pedigree.aspx?tid=921...

Here's my pedigree, if you're interested in seeing where he'd be in my family line.

Update 2:

I'll post the correct link in a sec.

Update 4:

I don't know if James's father is John. I don't have the birth certificate. I know for sure that James is my grandmother's father's name. I think I've asked her once before, and she didn't know, but I'll try again to find out what her paternal grandparents names were.

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  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago
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    The hints are Ancestry's usual rubbish.

    These are five different trees.

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    Ethel and Kenneth Loden's Fami...

    owner: EthelLoden

    sources (1)

    James W Clark

    Birth

    1836

    , Hardeman, Tennessee, USA

    Death

    Family Info

    Father

    John Clark (1810-1843)

    Mother

    Malinda M Finley (1812-)

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    Toles Family Tree

    owner: lgtoles

    sources (1)

    John Clark

    Birth

    3 Mar 1853

    , , Mississippi, USA

    Death

    Family Info

    Father

    Willam M Clark (1829-1899)

    Mother

    Martha Caroline Finley (1832-1875)

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    Hughes Family Tree

    owner: sarahelizabethhughes

    sources (1)

    John M Clark

    Birth

    3 Mar 1853

    , , Mississippi, USA

    Death

    Family Info

    Father

    William Madison Clark (1829-1899)

    Mother

    Martha Caroline Finley (1832-1875)

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    Finley Family Tree

    owner: farmturdgirl

    John M. Clark

    Birth

    1853

    Death

    Family Info

    Father

    William "Wig" Clark (1829-1899)

    Mother

    Martha Caroline Finley (1834-1875)

    Spouse

    Lou E.J. Ghorhum (-)

    Spouse

    May E. (-)

    ***********************************

    Lharvey2

    owner: VerleEllis

    Middleton John Clark

    Birth

    3 MAR 1853

    Death

    Family Info

    Father

    William "Wigg" Clark (1829-1899)

    Mother

    Martha Carline Finley (1832-1875)

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    This is the census hint

    Name: John Clark

    Birth Year: abt 1910

    Birth Place: Iowa

    Gender: Male

    Race: White

    Marital Status: Single

    Census Date: 1 Jan 1925

    Residence State: Iowa

    Residence County: Black Hawk

    Locality: Waterloo

    Relation to Head: Son

    Mother: Amelia Mae Chestek

    [Amelia Mae Clark]

    Mother's Birth Year: abt 1878

    Mother's Birthplace: Illinois

    Father: Seeley D Clark

    [Seely D Clark]

    Father's Birth Year: abt 1871

    Father's Birthplace: New York

    Marriage Place: Iowa

    Roll: IA1925_1610

    Line: 6

    Neighbors: View others on page

    Household Members:

    Name Age

    Seely D Clark 54

    Amelia Mae Clark 47

    Gladys L Clark 17

    John Clark 15

    Edward Wm Clark 10

    Wilbur Hicok 22

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    I think the Ancestry computer just matches random things, the hints aren't often all that useful.

    Edit

    If you managed to see the images I found for you yesterday, you'd see that James says he is a plumber, has been married for 9 years (in 1910) and that both him and his parents were born in New York. With any luck you will find someone fitting that discription in 1900.

    Edit

    He gives his age as 28. 38. 48 too.

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    This guy is on the maybe list.

    Parents born in right place plus he is a copper smith.

    Name: James Clark

    Home in 1900: Brooklyn Ward 12, Kings, New York

    Age: 17

    Birth Date: Aug 1882

    Birthplace: New York

    Race: White

    Ethnicity: American

    Gender: Male

    Relationship to head-of-house: Son

    Father's Name: John

    Father's Birthplace: New York

    Mother's Name: Annie

    Mother's Birthplace: New York

    Marital Status: Single

    Residence : New York City, Kings, New York

    Occupation: View on Image

    Neighbors: View others on page

    Household Members:

    Name Age

    John Clark 50

    Annie Clark 42

    James Clark 17

    Richard Clark 14

    Annie Clark 14

    Carrie Clark 8

    Joseph H Clark 3

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  • 1 decade ago

    unless you LUCK OUT, and someone has researched him/ posted the info.. you will need his death certificate to be certain.

    A child born in Nov, 1880, will not show on the 1880 census, and by 1900, he may or may not be living with his parents. The 1890 census was destroyed by a fire. All census records from 1880 forward include the place of birth for the person named.. but ALSO the birth places for the parents (not the names).

    Once again.. if you are only getting transcriptions and not seeing the full entries, you are missing the bulk of the info.

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  • 1 decade ago

    Have you found your family in census records? Presumably the 1920 census would show Margaret with her father James and show where he was born? That would mean you can be sure he was born in Brooklyn. If you then trace James through the 1910, 1900 and 1890 census returns you should hopefully find him with his parents and also find out where they were from too. I would definitely suggest you undertake census research. If you have an address for Margaret's birth, use that in the 1920 census.

    I know it is a popular name but there are ways of narrowing it down.

    I presume you already have Margaret and James' birth certificates so you know Jame's father is definitely John right? If not I definitely recommend getting the birth certificates. This would give you James' mother's name which means you can start looking for a marriage between her and John. I don't know how marriage certificates work in the US but here in the UK they usually have the age of the bride and groom on them. As you say Clarke is a common name but hopefully James' mother's name is less common which should help you out.

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  • 4 years ago

    Try asking your mother and father, and grandparents if they are still alive.

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