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Anonymous asked in Arts & HumanitiesGenealogy · 1 decade ago

Got Family crest at Disneyland?

I bought a framed picture from a Coat of Arms dealer in Disneyland about 2 years ago.I'm thinking you can trust any company that sells things inside Disneyland. Well I was doing research on my family name on the internet and the coat of arms looks totally different as the one I got at Disneyland. I looked on a few web sites and they are all the same but different than the one I got at Disneyland. So my question is who is right and who can I trust? Maybe the Disneyland company was bull crap?

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  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago
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    Here's my standard answer about Coats of Arms. Crests are the top part of a C of A. Usually people ask "What is the {surname} family Coat of Arms?

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    House of names -

    http://www.houseofnames.com

    will probably show you a Coat of Arms that was (probably) once issued to someone with the same surname as yours, BUT:

    Coats of arms were designed so knights could tell each other apart when they were buttoned up in their suits of armor. They were given to individuals, not families. If, for instance, every knight named Smith used the same coat of arms, there would be a crowd of knights riding around with the same coat of arms painted on their shields. It would be as confusing as a basketball game where both sides wore blue uniforms and all the players were number 12.

    The eldest legitimate son inherits his father's Coats of Arms. He passes it on to his eldest legitimate son, and so on; that's where the myth of a "Family" Coat of arms comes from. Only one person can PROPERLY (See below) have a given coat of arms at one time. People who sell T-shirts and coffee mugs, however encourage the gullible to believe Coats of Arms are for a surname.

    Below:

    If your surname is Smith and you come from Shropshire, you may find that Sir Albert Smith, Sir Bruce Smith and Sir Charles Smith, all from Shropshire, all had C of A. If you do your research, you may find you descend from Sir Charles, but you are nowhere close to being the eldest son of the eldest son of the . . .. Now comes the question - Is using his coat of arms proper? Opinions differ.

    Some say it is like demanding "your" room in the ancestral Smith estate in Shropshire, from the current owners - ridiculous and illegal.

    Some say it is like wearing a Regimental tie if you didn't serve in that regiment. (Land's End sells those by the thousands to Americans. I would never buy one.)

    Some say it is like wearing a Scotch Plaid shirt when you don't belong to that clan. (LL Bean sells tens of thousands of those; I have Lindsay myself.)

    Some say it is as harmless as wearing a Detroit Tigers baseball cap when you didn't play for the team, or a UC Berkeley T-shrt when you didn't attend the University. (Or an Ohio State one, but as long as you're going to wear a University T-shirt, why not the finest?)

    So, there's the facts and three opinions about using a "Family" coat of arms. You can make up your own mind, after you do your research.

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  • jamner
    Lv 4
    4 years ago

    Disney Family Crest

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  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    The coat of arms you bought at Disneyland is crap. The coat of arms you found on the internet is crap.

    This is one of the biggest genealogy scams in existence. Here is how it works. A clever marketer took some heraldry books and made a database of many coats of arms. Instead of recording the actual person who bore the arms, he just associated a surname with each one (often the surname of the original armiger). The point of this scam was to increase the number of people who would identify with a particular design, even though by tradition using an unrelated person's arms is theft. This clever scam has made millions for the con artists and made fools of many people.

    Here is how heraldry really works. You can obtain a coat of arms in one of two ways: inherit it or adopt a new design. If you inherit arms, then you inherit them from a particular individual in your male-line ancestry, i.e. your father, your grandfather, etc.

    If your ancestry does not include an armiger, then you can adopt your own freely in most countries or you can pay the state heralds in the UK. The best advice is to join a heraldry society in your country and discuss options.

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  • 1 decade ago

    In may cases more than one man with the same surname, not all necessarily related, were each granted their own coat of arms, all different. No one peddler who sells them on the internet, at shopping malls, in airports, in magazines and at Disneyland will have all of them. They don't need to in order to sell to the gullible. The only time they will have more than one is if more than one man with the same surname from different national origins were granted one. Then they will have one of each and there might have been more.

    Also when a man was granted one in Britain, all sons were granted one with some differences. Only the oldest son inherits his father's upon his father's death.

    Anytime you buy one of those things and if it is valid and if you display it, you are guilty of usurpation of another man's identity. They don't belong to surnames and actually they don't belong to families. Poland and France might be the only European countries where they belong to a family but they don't belong to a surname.

    What is so bad about their selling those framed coats of arms, sometimes they are mounted on a walnut plaque, is that a family history come with it and that family history will not be the same for everyone with the same surname. See some links below.

    Source(s): http://www.college-of-arms.gov.uk/Faq.htm (this is the British College of Arms and they are the ones tht grant coat of arms.) http://www.bothwell.cx/arms.shtml (this is regarding Scottish arms) http://www.heraldry.ws/info/article10.html (this is regarding Scottish arms) http://www.heraldry.ws/info/article10.html (this is regarding Irish arms) http://www.regalis.com/onom.htm (this is regarding Italian arms) http://www.szlachta.org/heraldry.htm (this is regarding Polish arms)
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  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    make your own, it's not like there is one coat of arms for each family, you probnly have native american/mexican blood so your screwed. Americans are mutts. i dont have a clue where my family comes from.

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