The only people who think Messianics are anything but what they are (CHRISTIANS) are those who are so anti semitic that they DENY the right of Jews to define OUR OWN BELIEFS as we have done for 5000 years.
There is no group of 'traditional jews' here. There are those of us, like you and me that ARE JEWISH, in accordance with how JUDAISM DEFINES JEWISH IDENTITY.
And there are evangelical Christians, who are *literally* NON JEWS, just as Hindus/Muslims/Scientologists are literally not Jewish.
99% of Messianics were NEVER Jews at any point in time.
This is what we have to keep pointing out to people who just don't get it.
There is a reason why most mainstream Christian leaders CONDEMN Messianics - because of their utter lies and attempts to REdefine what 'jewish' means.
Well, they've been trying for over 2000 years ,one way or another - and they haven't managed and they won't manage.
- the article 'The Missionary Position'
We are not telling Messianics what to believe.
We are reminding them that they cannot follow Christianity and then CALL IT 'judaism'. That name is taken.
Oh, and DISCORD:
Do try and grasp this fact: your bible does not get to define, predict or decide what Jews will do and won't do. No Jews 'have come to jesus' - as we have explained to you HUNDREDS of times in this very forum.
Any Jews that 'come to jesus' are thus by DEFINITION: CHRISTIANS.
Does a Muslim who 'comes to jesus' remain a Muslim? No? How about a Hindu? No?
Now apply that same logic to JEWS.
And if you refuse to then yes that IS anti semitism, because you are using HITLER's definition of 'jewish'. Shame on you.
· 1 decade ago