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Anonymous asked in Politics & GovernmentPolitics · 1 decade ago

Do liberals know that warrentless wire taps allowed by the Patriot Act only apply to calls outside our borders?

So why are they worried about the government listening in to their phone conversations?

Update:

The plain fact is that warrentless wire tapping is still illegal within our own borders. If you think it's happening anyway then it has nothing to do with the Patriot Act.

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  • 4 years ago

    As you will read in the Military Oath of Allegiance the first sentence will answer you question and hopefully make you understand how stupid you are. I, {insert name here}, do solemnly swear, (or affirm), that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; US Constitution Stipulates on Amendment IV The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized. Unless they already have changed any of those two the fight for freedom is here in Washington. Bring the soldiers back! The keyword is not unreasonable, everybody knows that unreasonable could be anything and it is stated like that purposely. The key word is WARRANT, which we all know they didn't issue, and still don't, and the ones that were/are issued were not supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

  • 1 decade ago

    Actually no. It's called a roving wiretap.

    Previously the FISC would have to get a warrant to tap each phone line, but the Patriot Act made it so that a warrant is good for the person, allowing the FISC to tap any phone calls on any phone lines made by that 1 person, whether inside our borders or outside the borders.

    In other words: The government only needs ONE warrant to listen in on all of your phone calls from any phone line, and monitor your IP address, where they previously would need a different warrant for each tap (a warrant to tap your home phone, a warrant to tap your cell, etc.)

    Roving Wiretaps follow the person wherever they go, and they do not just apply to outside calls.

  • 1 decade ago

    It is clear you do not work for an intelligence agency. All calls that have the potential to reach outside the borders can be observed. Look at magic lantern, Carnivore etc. they are only a few programs out there. Basically, in the cause of national defense, they dod and its allies can do pretty much as they please.

  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    I agree. I don't care that wireless wire taps allowed by the patriot act apply to people outside our borders. liberal and proud.

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  • Bubuh
    Lv 5
    1 decade ago

    But the problem is that there were wire taps within the country. And there were first hand witnesses who followed orders to do so. Its not just about Patriot Act. May be because the issue is from Bush having said things like War on Terror does not require we follow normal laws. Like Patriot Acts or any other wimpy laws.

  • 1 decade ago

    Those calls aren't all going to terrorist cells.

    It's still spying on American citizens if they happen to call loved ones who are outside the country.

    They actually spy on American soldiers, too. I've heard of reports that the people who are listening on phone calls get off on soldiers having, um, "intimate conversations" with a significant other.

  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    Ya as if the president of the USA really wants to listen to some wired out old hippies planning their next mary jane patch, or some gays planning their next gay pride day or some tree huggers planning on saving some squirrel in the woods somewhere.

  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    No actually they are not

    The Act increases the ability of law enforcement agencies to search telephone, e-mail communications, medical, financial and other records; eases restrictions on foreign intelligence gathering within the United States; expands the Secretary of the Treasury’s authority to regulate financial transactions

  • On the contrary, the wiretaps that have been conducted have been on telephone conversations that, while they may have originated outside the U.S., are received by people here.

  • Sarah
    Lv 7
    1 decade ago

    You must be joking....our own NSA says otherwise...further OUR MILITARY are ourside of out borders....fighting for FREEDOM....which means that their phone calls should be free from wiretapping....yet they are not. Our own government has stated repeatedly that they have listened in on private and personal calls between our service members and their spouses. http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/Investigation/story?id=1...

    http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_david_sw_0...

    http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2009/01/nsa-whist...

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