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Having Ties to Radical groups of the 60's make you an agent of Change?

SEDONA, Ariz. — Stepping up the Republican ticket’s attacks on Senator Barack Obama, Gov. Sarah Palin on Saturday seized on a report about Mr. Obama’s relationship with a former 1960s radical to accuse him of “palling around with terrorists.”

“This is not a man who sees America as you see it, and how I see America,” Ms. Palin, the Republican vice-presidential nominee, said in Colorado, according to a pool report. “We see America as the greatest force for good in this world. If we can be that beacon of light and hope for others who seek freedom and democracy and can live in a country that would allow intolerance in the equal rights that again our military men and women fight for and die for all of us.

“Our opponent though, is someone who sees America, it seems, as being so imperfect that he’s palling around with terrorists who would target their own country.”

The article to which she referred, in The New York Times on Saturday, traced Mr. Obama’s sporadic interactions with Bill Ayers, a founder of the Weathermen who later became an education professor in Chicago and worked on education projects there with Mr. Obama, the Democratic nominee for president.

The article said: “A review of records of the schools project and interviews with a dozen people who know both men, suggest that Mr. Obama, 47, has played down his contacts with Mr. Ayers, 63. But the two men do not appear to have been close. Nor has Mr. Obama ever expressed sympathy for the radical views and actions of Mr. Ayers.”

Ms. Palin seized on their relationship after the campaign of Senator John McCain, the Republican presidential nominee, said it planned to shift its strategy and try to turn the campaign into a referendum on Mr. Obama.

“Well, I was reading my copy of today’s New York Times and I was interested to read about Barack’s friends from Chicago,” Ms. Palin said at the fund-raiser in Englewood, Colo. “Turns out one of Barack’s earliest supporters is a man who, according to The New York Times, and they are hardly ever wrong, was a domestic terrorist and part of a group that, quote, launched a campaign of bombings that would target the Pentagon and U.S. Capitol. Wow. These are the same guys who think patriotism is paying higher taxes.”

The Obama campaign responded by noting that McCain officials had been quoted as saying that they hoped to “turn the page” on the fiscal crisis, which has hurt Mr. McCain’s standing in the polls, and to devote more time to attacking Mr. Obama.

“Governor Palin’s comments, while offensive, are not surprising, given the McCain campaign’s statement this morning that they would be launching Swift-boat-like attacks in hopes of deflecting attention from the nation’s economic ills,” said Hari Sevugan, an Obama spokesman. “What’s clear is that John McCain and Sarah Palin would rather spend their time tearing down Barack Obama than laying out a plan to build up our economy.”

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  • 1 decade ago
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    LIE: "My view is that the community organizer was really a sham event. Bill Ayers was testing him."(Andy Martin, Hannity's America, October 5, 2008, "Obama and His Friends: History of Radicalism")

    TRUTH: Bill Ayers had nothing to do with Obama's community organizing job. It's pure lunacy to imagine that Ayers was "testing" Obama.

    LIE: Obama's "community organizing is a grand scheme perpetuated by none other than William Ayers."(Sean Hannity, Hannity's America, October 5, 2008, "Obama and His Friends: History of Radicalism")

    TRUTH: Obama's community organizing was not a vast conspiracy for revolution devised by Bill Ayers.

    LIE: "They live half a mile from William Ayers, the unrepentant terrorist" and "Just a half a mile from those homes is Louis Farrakhan."(Hannity's America, October 5, 2008, "Obama and His Friends: History of Radicalism")

    TRUTH: It's true, of course, that Obama lives in this same neighborhood, as do tens of thousands of other people who presumably are also guilty by geographical association. The logic of this argument would be, if you live half a mile from a sex offender, then you agree with child molesters.

    LIE: Obama and Ayers "appeared together at various public engagements...it would seem that they are more than just a little bit friendly."(Sean Hannity, Hannity's America, October 5, 2008, "Obama and His Friends: History of Radicalism")

    TRUTH: Appearing on a speaking panel is not a sign of friendship. There is no evidence that Obama had any role in ever inviting Ayers to speak.

    LIE: In 1995, Ayers and Dohrn "hosted a political coming out party for a young Barack Obama."(Sean Hannity, Hannity's America, October 5, 2008, "Obama and His Friends: History of Radicalism")

    TRUTH: This was an event for Alice Palmer, not a "coming-out party" for Obama. Obama was invited by Palmer to the event.

    But long before tonight's Hannity, the right-wing has been spreading a series of lies about Obama and Ayers.

    LIE: "Bill Ayers is an unrepentant terrorist."

    TRUTH: Bill Ayers is not, and apparently never was, a terrorist. The conventional definition of a terrorist is someone who tries to kill innocent people for political purposes. As Factcheck.org noted, In fact, nobody died as a result of bombings in which Ayers said he participated as part of the Weather Underground. (Factcheck.org)

    LIE: "I'm sure he's very patriotic, but his relationship with Mr. Ayers is open to question....Because, if you're going to associate and have as a friend and serve on a board and have a guy kick off your campaign that says he's unrepentant, that he wished he'd bombed more. And then, the worst thing of all, that I think really indicates Senator Obama's attitude, is he had the incredible statement that he compared Mr. Ayers, an unrepentant terrorist -- an unrepentant terrorist, with Senator Tom Coburn. Senator Coburn, a physician who goes to Oklahoma on the weekends and brings babies into life.' (John McCain, April 20, 2008, ABC's This Week with George Stephanopoulos)

    TRUTH: Obama was not friends with Ayers. Ayers did not kick off Obama's campaign. And Obama was not comparing Ayers' actions with Coburn. Obama was pointing out that he works with people even when he disagrees with them.

    LIE: "Obama's oldest friend in politics is a murderer and unrepentant terrorist. Why are they friends?"(ExposeObama.com email, Sept. 7, 2008)

    TRUTH: Ayers isn't Obama's oldest friend in politics.

    LIE: Ayers was "Obama's boss."(Jerome Corsi, p. 147)

    TRUTH: The chair of a foundation board is not the boss of the members.

    LIE: Jerome Corsi claimed Alice "Palmer would never have introduced Obama to the Hyde Park political community at the Ayres-Dohrn home unless she saw an affinity between Ayers and Dohrn's radical leftist history, her own history of far-leftist politics, and the politics of Barack Obama."(p. 137)

    TRUTH: The event wasn't held primarily for Obama. It was Palmer's own announcement that she would run for Congress. Obama was there as Palmer's endorsed successor for her Senate seat, but there's no evidence that he had any role in deciding to hold it at Ayers' home.

    LIE: Jerome Corsi claims about Obama: "either he did not know Ayers and Dohrn are still radical leftists--in which case he is implausibly naive--or Obama did know, which would confirm he joined with Ayers and Dohrn because Obama too continues to believe, albeit silently and secretly, in the Far Left's radical agenda."(p. 140)

    TRUTH: Obama probably knew Ayers was a leftist, but he didn't care. Obama believes in the notion of a free society, where you work with people you disagree with.

    LIE: "Even today, Ayers appears to hold the same radical political beliefs he did in the Weather Underground, and Obama had to know that was also the case when he first met Ayers in 1995."(Jerome Corsi, p. 147)

    TRUTH: Corsi doesn't explain how Obama "had to know" Ayers' views on politics when he first met him. Telepathy? Mind-reading?

    LIE: David

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  • 4 years ago

    I won't get into my usual lengthy diatribe on this at the moment, but I would like to simply point out how funny it is what a rooting interest will do to your perspective. Political elections for a large percentage of people is a lot like watching the Super Bowl between your favorite team and your least favorite team. YOUR players can do no wrong and there is always some easy justification, but the other team's players are always losers and of course the refs are always against your team. I would personally say that the very least you can say that this is directly on par with Jeremiah Wright. At the aboslute least. Personally, I think Jeremiah Wright has been distorted and overblown and all I see the Alaskan Independence Party as is a secessionist group (which they clearly are and nobody denies it). Which, just think about it, say that Sarah Palin doesn't agree with her husband, it still is really something to noodle around. Seriously, her husband (the man she loves, her closest confindant, etc.) at least up until 2002 believed that Alaska should be it's own country. Think a little about that. The big thing with Jeremiah Wright was that he, even debatably, sat in a pew and listened to anti-American propaganda (which as I said, I believe has been horribly distorted, Rev. Wright is supposedly a very respected priest). Sarah Palin slept next to someone who believed that Alaska shouldn't even be a part of the country (which obviously shows a lack of love for America, I don't really believe that you can debate that). Also she spoke at this group's convention at one point and it was certainly not to tell them that they should adjust their belief system. Yet, despite all the Reverend Wright whining, and the Bill Ayers (which, give me a break, it gets painted like these guys play chess every Sunday) this is a complete non-issue and we are simply attacking this poor woman out of spite, and the media is evil and in Obama's tank, and it's all some big conspiracy that she is under investigation for corruption. Say that I'm biased if you will, and I am one of the aforementioned "Obama fans," but at the absolute very least I don't see how you can say that it's any less of a scandal than Rev. Wright (honestly I think, and I think it's very rationally true, that it's certainly more than that), and apparently him sitting in that man's ministry makes him an America hating racist. Republicans and Clinton supporters beat that drum relentlessly for months and even still do to a lesser extent (and the reprise is coming). It's all about perspective.

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  • 1 decade ago

    This stuff makes me laugh. Honestly, if there were very real and tangible ties between Obama and Ayers, it would concern me. Ayers is clearly not a good American. Do we really know what happened? The way I understand it, back when Obama was getting started in politics, his neighbor (Ayers) threw a fundraiser in his home. Now, if you want to equate that with Obama somehow ratifying crap Ayers did when Obama was a kid, I suppose that's your privilege, but I think it's ridiculous. Did Obama know about Ayers history at the time of the fundraiser? I don't know. The fact that McCain hasn't talked about it makes me suspicious that he didn't.

    The thing that really leaves me super unimpressed is that McCain chose to not talk about this at all until his numbers started spiraling down the toilet. But, all the sudden it's a huge issue? Come on, if you can turn on your computer and type this stuff, you must know better. Don't let the spin cloud your judgment.

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  • Katie
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    1 decade ago

    Your last paragraph says it best:

    McCain officials had been quoted as saying that they hoped to “turn the page” on the fiscal crisis, which has hurt Mr. McCain’s standing in the polls, and to DEVOTE MORE TIME TO ATTACKING MR.OBAMA..

    “Governor Palin’s comments, while offensive, are not surprising, given the McCain campaign’s statement this morning that they would be launching Swift-boat-like attacks in hopes of deflecting attention from the nation’s economic ills,” said Hari Sevugan, an Obama spokesman. “What’s clear is that John McCain and Sarah Palin would rather spend their time tearing down Barack Obama than laying out a plan to build up our economy.”

    Source(s): Obama/Biden 08
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  • 1 decade ago

    Obama is the opposite of change! He's more of the same type of politician..............which is a combination of lying and flip flopping!

    Let us NOT forget the facts folks that Barack Obama has worked closely with William Ayers in Chicago. It's also been proven that Ayers helped get Obama in the Senate.

    For you who do not know who William Ayers is here is a link:

    1) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aK72WxLXNus

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    2) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Ayers

    Source(s): REALITY!
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  • You must be kidding...Why so paranoid? Obama was 8 when Ayers did this...palin was in pre-K...These attacks are only making light because mccain is losing! Its a retarded try to take the focus off the bush/mccain ecocomy woes...The press has already looked into these accusations before and it will not change anyones mind...A real stretch of the imagination...

    Source(s): facts...
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  • Bob H
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    1 decade ago

    It looks like it's back to the McCarthy era. Commies coming out of the wood work. How many did Big Joe find, about 3.

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  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    When Palin sends her whipped man to answer to the investigation committee or she quit having affairs, and cease bridges to nowhere and shooting wolves and trying to get her teen married off to a boy who don't want her and quit abusing power in an effort to make the state trooper stay with her sister and can keep her son under wraps so he doe's not get in trouble and have to choose jail or the national guard then and only then can she talk. Until then she is merely bumpN her gums and digging her and Mcsame in the hold further.

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  • 1 decade ago

    McCain is friends with G. Gordon Liddy. This is a man who called for people to shoot and aim for the heads of our ATF Agent in 1994.

    Previous to this was the principle brain behind the Watergate break in.

    As a child was inspired by speeches delivered by Adolf Hitler.

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  • 1 decade ago

    Sarah Palin didn't even know what the responsibilities of the vice president were, just weeks before she was called on as the nominee.

    Now, I see you must be the same, as you did not hear about the news in this article until lately. Can you please look up Joe Volguer while you are slinging mud ?

    Thanks for listening.

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  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    What about that domestic terrorist in the WHITE house...and all those other domestic terrorists that were called Dixiecrats when i was a kid, but are now called Reagan Democrats.

    And let's not forget those terrorists in NYPD blue and their piggy brothers throughout the country.

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