Atheists, agnostics, non believers of religion and spirituality do you ever……….?
Do you ever see just a hint of why they think there is a god?
Why they believe a god must have created this world and all on it and all around it?
I don’t mean psychologically, I mean physically, biologically, naturally, I mean in life and all around you itself, I mean do you look at something, hear something, watch something, know of something, and understand why they come to this conclusion?
as always i appreciate all your thoughts on this
i said NOT psychologically, but physically
ie similar to the 'just look around you' view
similar, not exactly the same
just looking, at life, existence, at earth, the universe, understanding the complexity, the apparent 'design'
from this perspective
not including that here at all
just a simple creator on its own
It is NOT "obviously psychology", it is both psychology AND material
And to say theist brains work differently, well thats just really nothing short of ignorant
All our brains work the same way david,
We atheists also do have a need for answers,
we as HUMANS have that need,,not as believers or unbelievers, but as human beings and animals
its a biological and psychological issue that we all have
I said ignoring all that
As its not what this question is about
How we all use our brains works differently, I use my brain differently to you, but its of no relevance here
As I said david, similar to that view , not that view exactly
Technicalities and semantics make all the difference here
And I said can YOU see it from that perspective not 'how do they see it'
, I asked is it possible for you to see things from their views, in ANY way, not THEIR way
I know how they see it in general david,
Im asking atheists agnostics and non believers how THEY see it, CAN they see it in any way
That even those negative and horrible things have a consequence a ‘purpose’ if you will
Something comes out of negativity too
and they seem somehow 'orchestrated'
That butterfly in the web is about to be a meal, as you say prey predator
that’s it, and that is the essence of life, we are all meals for something else
we all feed other life, so they can live, healthy and survive
Babies born with these things are genetic issues, and that serves a purpose in our genes, whether we like it or not that’s the truth
And there is a horrible beauty, a ‘design’ to it
Nature has many of its own designs, but these things don’t have to be only beautiful, they can be ugly and horrible too, we tend to look past that and see them as bad, but they are also purposeful and productive
Even death is purposeful and productive
really enjoying reading them
nice to see you all today
This is a somewhat reasonable assumption surrounding the existence of a God"
you get me
you get what im saying, this is what im getting at,
there seems to be soemthing that is understandable about their views on creation when looking at life and existence from a non biased view, just a person, looking around, using both spirituality and logic or neither
you can see what they are seeing
even if its not a god, just a creator, that created things, they have a design, and its not difficult to see that design if you are unbiased
thats what im talking about
thank you bunny
i agree with most of what you said too