is it safe to put my 8month old baby in a facing front car seat?
what is the best age group that you can put your baby in a front facing carseat? is it safe to put my 8 month old baby in a front facing carseat? she does not like to seat in the back if there is no one back there with her, because she starts crying, exspecially if its only the two of us and i'm the driving. what can i do to change that? is it wise to put her in a front facing carseat at her age?
p.s. at this moment she has a cold. she is congested, she has a running nose. but another than that everything else is fine with her, her eating is normal, there is no diarrhea, and no fever. what can i give her at her age to clear up the congested part.
- 1 decade agoBest Answer
No its not safe. In fact, she needs to stay rear facing for at least another year - or until she reaches the weight limit of a rear facing convertible car seat. She may not like her infant seat anymore, if that's what you have her in, go shopping for a convertible car seat. It will sit up higher, and can be installed a little more upright, between 30-45 degrees instead of the strict 45 degrees, and is much roomier. That will likely solve the problem.
When shopping Remember these rules:
1)the BEST seat is the one that fits your child, fits your car, and will be used correctly 100% of the time. (This is why convenience features DO make a difference and ARE worth the money! If its easy to use, you're more likely to use it correctly.
2)children need to stay rear facing as long as possible.
Turning kids forward at 20lbs/1year is an outdated practice that could cost you your child's life!
A)A forward-facing child under 2 years old is 5 times more likely to be killed or seriously injured in a crash than a rear-facing child of the same age.
B)A child's vertabrae do not fully fuse until 3-6 years old, before then, she is at great risk for internal decapitation. The spinal column can stretch up to 2 inches in a crash BUT the spinal cord can only stretch up to 1/4 inch before it snaps and baby is gone.
C)Current research suggests that children under the age of two years are 75 percent less likely to die or be seriously injured when they are riding rear facing.
D)In a recent article from Injury Prevention, it was found that the odds of severe injury to forward facing children age 12-23 months old was 5.32 times higher than a rear facing child. (Car Safety Seats For Children: Rear Facing For Best Protection; Injury Prevention 2007; 13:398-402.)
3)Once you do turn them forward facing, they need to stay in a 5 point harness as long as possible. 4 years/40lbs is the minimum for riding in a booster, and most 4 year olds have no business using one yet. If they can't sit upright for an entire trip, they need the harness of a car seat still. And, even if they do sit properly, a 5 point harness is safer, so you want to keep them in one as long as possible. This is important to consider b/c most car seats only forward face to 40lbs. My son just turned 3, and is in the 95th% for height and weight - 40" tall and weighs 41lbs. He outgrew the 40lbs seats shortly after his 2nd birthday. It was a total waste of money. He now has a Britax Marathon, which goes to 65lbs, and will be able to fit it for some time yet. If I'd have bought it when he was born, I could have had one car seat this whole time instead of the 3 I wasted money on. They are more expensive for many reasons, this is one.
So...knowing all that, here's some about specific seats. Please don't get a Graco Comfort Sport. Car seat techs call it the 'crappysport'. LOL Its a crappy seat that won't last your child very long b/c it has a really short shell. The straps twist all the time, and if they're twisted they won't support your child in a wreck properly. They're hard to install. There's nothing good about these seats except perhaps they're cheap sometimes. Ditto the Safety1st 3-in-1/Cosco Alpha Omega/Eddie Bauer 3-in1 seats. These are all the same company - same seat, just different covers. They stink. Hard to install, b/c of narrow belt paths. Ever tried to wash a skinny cup by hand? Now imagine that skinny cup with pointy edges. That's what putting your hand through these to install them is like. AND they have too short a shell to really go to 40lbs. And that's another misleading thing the box says - 5-100lbs. What the box fails to mention (you don't find out until reading the manual!) is that the harness only goes to 40lbs, NOT 100lbs! After 40lbs it must be used as a booster.And they do not make good boosters. Also, most kids have to use boosters until they're at least 8 years old. Car seats expire 6 years after the date of manufacture, so no matter what they say it is NOT the last seat you'll ever need to buy.
The Britax Marathon/Boulevard/Decathalon (These 3 are the same seat, just different variances of luxury additions, with the Marathon being the cheapest base model) can be found for regular price of $269, and on sale at Albee Baby online for $209-$219. The Marathon a wide open easy to route belt path, which makes using it correctly a lot easier, as do the built in lockoffs, which mean you never again have to use a locking clip. I can get it into 4 different vehicles in under 2 minutes. Because of the way the base is made, it fits in most cars. And, it is worth the money, b/c it lasts usually twice as long as most other car seats (all car seats expire 6 years after the date of manufacture) lasting a baby till they are 5-6 years old, where most at Walmart will only last till 2-4 years old. Rear faces to 33lbs, then forward to 65lbs. and top slots 17inches tall, lasts most kids to ages 5-6 years old.
The Evenflo Triumph Advance (not the original Triumph, make sure it says Advance) is a great seat. $150 version at Babies R Us has padding similar to Britax seats, top slots of 17", harnesses to 35lbs rear facing, and 50lbs forward facing. $120 Walmart version just has little less plush padding. Wide open belt path, easy to install, though it doesn't have built in lockoffs. The harness adjusts at the front of the car seat, you don't have to take the car seat out of the car just to raise/lower the straps. It's one of only 2 seats that does this (The Britax Boulevard is the other, I believE), and it has infinite harness adjustment so the harness always fits perfectly until its outgrown. No more tugging straps to tighten them either. You tighten and loosen the harness using knobs on the side of the seat. As a major bonus, it can be used in a recline position even in forward facing mode. Awesome for kids who still sleep in the car. I LOVE THIS SEAT! LOL My son, who is too big for every other car seat at Walmart has the same amount of room in this as the Britax Marathon.
The Compass Tue Fit, also sold as The First Years True Fit, is a great choice, too. Here's a thread talking all about it: http://www.car-seat.org/showthread.php?t=37221&hig... Has 16.5 inch top harness slots, half inch shorter than the Britax Marathon and Evenflo Triumph Advance. Rear faces to 35lbs, forward faces to 65lbs, has built-in lockoffs, and you never have to rethread the harness to change harness height. The headrest is removable to fit better in smaller cars. $179 for the one cover Walmart offers it in, check Babies R Us and other stores for different covers at a little more expensive price.
As for the congestion - a doctor really is the best to ask, but no, generally there is no medication you can give an 8 month old for congestion. Buy some Baby Vicks (don't use regular vicks on a baby) and smear it all over her chest. Use a warm mist vaporizor, or better, an ultrasonic humidifier, they put out the most steam. You can also sit in the bathroom with the door shut while letting the hot water run in the shower. the moisture helps keep her airways open. As long as she's eating well still, there's not much else to do. If she stops having as many wet diapers as usual, check with doc, he may recommend pedialite to keep her hydrated. If she sleeps in a crib, put a pillow UNDER the crib mattress (they also sell crib wedges specifically for this purpose) so that the end her head is at is slightly raised, the slight incline will help keep her passages open, just like you using a pillow, or lots of pillows when you're sick. Just do not put the pillow IN the crib.Source(s): EVENFLO TRIUMPH ADVANCE: http://www.toysrus.com/product/index.jsp?productId... http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_... MARATHON: http://search.store.yahoo.com/cgi-bin/nsearch?cata... TRUE FIT: http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_... GREAT RESOURCE: http://www.car-seat.org/index.php?referrerid=3297 WHY KEEP THEM REAR FACING http://aappolicy.aappublications.org/cgi/content/f... http://www.windsorpeak.com/dc/dcboard.php?az=show_... http://www.carseat.org/Resources/633.pdf http://www.cpsafety.com/articles/stayrearfacing.as... http://www.car-safety.org/rearface.html http://www.cpsafety.com/articles/RFAlbum.aspx http://www.thecarseatlady.com/car_seats/rear-facin... http://myangelsaliandpeanut.tripod.com/id5.html http://momtoaliandshae.tripod.com/keepingkidssafei... http://www.aap.org/family/carseatguide.htm http://www.aap.org/family/1to2yrs.htm http://www.aap.org/advocacy/releases/travelsafetyt... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRP7ynNI8mI http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9916868 http://www.carseatsite.com/rear-face_article.htm In the foreground is a forward facing seat, in the background a rear facing seat. You can see how much trauma the forward facing dummy has to endure. The rear facing child simply rides it out. http://www.oeamtc.at/netautor/html_seiten/kisitest... Here's another video. You can see how there is NO trauma to the baby, it simply sits there waiting for it to end. http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v163/jen_nah/car... WHY THE AOE STINKS: http://www.car-seat.org/showpost.php?p=322610&post... http://www.car-seat.org/showthread.php?t=31814 http://www.car-seat.org/showthread.php?t=29699 http://www.car-seat.org/showthread.php?t=23187 WHY THE COMFORT SPORT STINKS: http://www.car-seat.org/showthread.php?t=37857 http://www.car-seat.org/showthread.php?t=38072 INSTALLATION HELP: http://www.carseatsite.com/install.htm
- 4 years ago
You are right, the longer a baby stays rear facing, the better. The laws in the US cary from state to state, but most states say 1 year AND 20 pounds. Most others say you must use the seat according to the manufacturer's instructions, and all seats sold here have 1 year AND 20 pounds as a minimum for forward facing. It is recommended to keep baby rear facing until he or she hits the limits of the seat, which should be a good convertible seat, not an infant seat, which is generally outgrown by 6 months. A rear facing seat is outgrown when- there is less than 1" of hard shell over the head OR the weight limit is reached. Different seats have different weight limits so check the manual. You are right, your sister is wrong and she knows she's wrong which is why she gave you the defensive answer.
- Anonymous1 decade ago
You child MUST be one year of age AND 20 pounds in weight.
Would you rather face her foward and get into a bad accident and have her die, all b/c your kids just crying? Not to mention spending the rest of your life feeling guilty and maybe in jail for something so stupid?
I just called the Dr. about my two children 4 months and 15months b/c they have colds and they told me there is nothing to do unless they have a fever of 101 degrees or higher. So don't do anything for the congestion.
Rear-facing is safest for both adults and children, but especially for babies, who would face a greater risk of spinal cord injury in a front-facing carseat during a frontal crash.
Rear-facing car seats spread frontal crash forces over the whole area of a baby's back, head and neck; they also prevent the head from snapping relative to the body in a frontal crash.
Rear-facing carseats may not be quite as effective in a rear end crash, but severe frontal and frontal offset crashes are far more frequent and far more severe than severe rear end crashes.
Rear-facing carseats are NOT a safety risk just because a baby's legs are bent at the knees or because they can touch/kick the vehicle seat.
Rear-facing as long as possible is the recommendation of the American Academy of Pediatricians, and can reduce injuries and deaths. Motor Vehicle Crashes are the #1 overall cause of death for children 14 and under.Source(s): http://www.car-safety.org/rearface.html
- kissyh14Lv 51 decade ago
First your daughter can not be forward facing until she is a year old and over 20 lbs. With that said it is also safer to keep her rear facing as long as you can because even though they say it is ok their neck muscles may not be all that strong yet. So Keep her rear facing as long as you can.
As for her cold. Use saline drops in the nose and suction out anything that you can get. Also run a vaporizor in her room to help her breath but make sure it is not too close to her. Elevate her head in the crib with a towel under the mattress. If she gets really stuffy, Turn the shower on to the hottest temp. and let the bathroom get all steamed up and then sit in the steamy bathroom for about 10 to 15 min and that should open her nasal passages up so she can breath. They also have vapor plug ins that you can plug in her room to help her as well.
You can not give her any medicines unless your pediatrician tells you to do so. So do the things I mentioned above and call the doctor if she gets really cranky and can't sleep during the night because then it could develop to an ear infection. You can also contact the pediatrician and ask them what else you can do for her.
I hope she feels better soon.Source(s): Mom of two...
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- 1 decade ago
Children have large heads and comparatively weak necks, so in a head-on collision (the most common type of crash) a child's head can jerk forward suddenly and violently, resulting in spinal injuries. For this reason, keep your child rear-facing position as long as possible.
The "12-months-and-20-pounds" rule that many parents cite when turning their child forward in the car is actually the minimum size and age requirement. If your child can still ride comfortably facing backward at more than 12 months and 20 pounds, leave him that way. Just be sure the seat is designed to hold children of his weight.
And on the congestion... you really aren't supposed to give infants medicines without her doctor's approval, try a humidifier first. If that doesn't work call her doctorSource(s): www.babycenter.com
- 1 decade ago
I think that u should evaluate the situation, if she's crying because shes facing the seat then try putting her towards u then see how that works out...... if shes still crying then it may be something else maybe she just want attn while ur driving and to be safe next time put her back in the proper position.....and for that congestion there is nothing much u can do but to make it easier for u i will suggest u rub some vicks on her and steam up the bathroom with hot running water an sit in there for a good 20 mins with the door closed
- 1 decade ago
Always one year AND at least 20 pounds. Although she may sit up well on her own and do good in it, her neck muscles aren't fully developed enough. So if you were to wreck, the jolt would probably seriously damage/kill her. Although she may cry, her life is more important. Try getting a rear-view mirror to put on the back windshield,so you can see her in the back mirror when you look in your front rear-view mirror. And if she looks into it she will catch a glimpse of you also. Another thing that may work is a small toy that hangs from the rear facing car seat. It wouldn't hurt to try all possible solutions.
- 1 decade ago
No- this is very unsafe. Infants need to be in a rear facing car seat until atleast 12 months. Is she still in a infant seat? If so, this seat MUST be faced backwards. If she is over the limit weight (usually 22 pounds) then I suggest that you purchase a car seat (like a Britax) and put this rear facing.
You should really go onto Youtube and watch the benfits of rear facing.
- 1 decade ago
as long as all her needs are met then just leave her, don't stop or she'll never change. i don't agree with the CIO method but you have to be able to do things. just leave her be and don't stop. i know it is soooo hard but it doesn't help to stop, it just prolongs it for her. play the music loud for her, give her toys, and keep on rolling. the safest position for her is rear facing so leave it at that as long as you can.
for a cold and fever, use Tempra. i use it for my 8 month old (just once in a while). as for the congestion get a humidifier, my son has just got his first cold and I used a humidifier for a week and it helps, I also give him a bath before bed and that helps clear the nasal passage.
one more thing, my son is 8 months and 22lbs, 30inches tall. i
still have him rear facing even though i could probably put him forward. his seat is good for up to 30lbs and 32inches. i know he is safest this way.
- Kak22Lv 51 decade ago
She absolutely MUST stay rearfacing until at least 1 year AND 20lbs. She should remain rearfacing after that. She will learn to amuse herself in her seat.
The recommendation from safety experts and the American Academy of Pediatrics is to rearface (RF) to the limits of the seat which is 30-35lbs on all seats sold in the US. My 3 year old daughter still rides RF and prefers it over FF.
I have included several links with great pictures and videos of what happens to children’s necks when they are FF in a crash.
Most people are concerned about their child's legs being scrunched or broken in a crash. There is absolutely no evidence that shows a child's legs are in danger and I would much rather deal with a broken leg, than a broken neck.Source(s): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qef1TXZ05Dg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMFPSStXfqE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2DVfqFhseo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRP7ynNI8mI http://www.windsorpeak.com/dc/dcboard.php?az=show_... http://car-seat.org/ http://forums.delphiforums.com/n/main.asp?webtag=C... http://www.thecarseatlady.com/car_seats/rear-facin... http://www.aap.org/family/carseatguide.htm http://www.tribstar.com/news/local_story_343205333... http://www1.freewebs.com/sacredjourneys/newbornpre... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3BBv78HV6I&feature... http://www.stuff.co.nz/4144421a10.html
- Anonymous1 decade ago
try a cool mist humidifier for the congestion. as for putting her in a front facing car seat, it depends on her weight. Check your carseat manual for weight, although I think it is like 25 lbs. Don't put her facing forward unless she is big enough, for saftey of course. Good Luck