Anonymous asked in Politics & GovernmentLaw & Ethics · 1 decade ago

If torture doesn't work in child rearing, why does Bush think it will work with adults?

The "parents" of Baby Grace have now confessed to torturing their child to death in order to make her say "please" and "yes sir." They did not succeed in getting any of the desired behavior out of the child but they did manage to inflict horrible pain on her and kill her.

If torture can't get the desired responses from a child, how can it work on an adult?

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  • qb
    Lv 4
    1 decade ago
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    "water-boarding isn't torture. It is merely a psychological method used to change the state of mind of the subject"

    This guy should have been writing the torture memo:

    "In the view expressed by the Justice Department memo, which differs from the view of the Army, physical torture 'must be equivalent in intensity to the pain accompanying serious physical injury, such as organ failure, impairment of bodily function, or even death.' For a cruel or inhuman psychological technique to rise to the level of mental torture, the Justice Department argued, the psychological harm must last "months or even years.' "

    However, this letter states:

    "Waterboarding is torture. It causes severe physical suffering in the form of reflexive choking, gagging, and the feeling of suffocation. It may cause severe pain in some cases. If uninterrupted, waterboarding will cause death by suffocation."

    "Waterboarding, when used against people captured in the context of war, may also amount to a war crime as defined under the federal war crimes statute 18 U.S.C. § 2441, which criminalizes grave breaches of the Geneva Conventions (in international armed conflicts), and violations of Article 3 common to the four Geneva Conventions (in non-international armed conflicts). Waterboarding is also an assault, and thus violates the federal assault statute, 18 U.S.C. § 113, when it occurs in the 'special maritime and territorial jurisdiction of the United States,' a jurisdictional area which includes government installations overseas. In cases involving the U.S. armed forces, waterboarding also amounts to assault, and cruelty and maltreatment under the Uniform Code of Military Justice. "


    Richard Abel, UCLA School of Law

    Bruce Ackerman, Yale University

    Catherine Adcock Admay, Duke University

    Madelaine Adelman, Arizona State University

    Jose E. Alvarez, Columbia Law School (former attorney-adviser, Department of State)

    Paul Amar, University of California-Santa Barbara

    Fran Ansley, University of Tennessee College of Law

    Michael Avery, Suffolk Law School

    Amy Bartholomew, Carleton University

    Katherine Beckett, University of Washington

    George Bisharat, Hastings College of the Law

    Christopher L. Blakesley, William S. Boyd School of Law (UNLV)

    Gary Blasi, Professor of Law, UCLA School of Law

    John Charles Boger, University of North Carolina - Chapel Hill

    David Bowker, adjunct, Cardozo Law School (former attorney-adviser, Department of State)

    Alice C. Briggs, Franklin Pierce Law Center

    John Brigham, University of Massachusetts, Amherst

    Peter Brooks, University of Virginia

    Rosa Brooks, University of Virginia

    William T. Burke, University of Washington School of Law

    William Burke-White, University of Pennsylvania School of Law

    Kitty Calavita, University of California-Irvine

    Henry (Chip) Carey, Georgia State University

    Anupam Chander, University of California-Davis

    Oscar G. Chase, New York University Law School

    Kathleen Clark, Washington University

    Cornell W. Clayton, Washington State University

    Marjorie Cohn, Thomas Jefferson School of Law

    David Cole, Georgetown University Law Center

    John Comaroff, University of Chicago

    Michael Comiskey, Pennsylvania State University

    Marianne Constable, University of California- Berkeley

    Don Crowley, University of Idaho

    Scott Cummings, UCLA School of Law

    Eve Darian-Smith, University of Massachusetts-Amherst

    Benjamin Davis, University of Toledo College of Law

    Stephen F. Diamond, Santa Clara University School of Law

    Hilal Elver, University of California-Santa Barbara

    Richard Falk, Princeton University and University of California-Santa Barbara

    Thomas G. Field, Jr. Franklin Pierce Law Center

    Gregory H. Fox, Wayne State University Law School

    Lawrence M. Friedman, Stanford University

    Michael Froomkin, University of Miami School of Law

    David R. Ginsburg, UCLA School of Law

    Angelina Snodgrass Godoy, University of Washington

    Leslie F.Goldstein, University of Delaware

    Kenneth W. Graham, Jr., UCLA Law School

    David Greenberg, New York University

    Lisa Hajjar, University of California-Santa Barbara

    Joel F. Handler, UCLA School of Law

    Hendrik Hartog, Princeton University

    Lynne Henderson, University of Nevada-Las Vegas

    William O. Hennessey, Franklin Pierce Law Center

    Richard A. Hesse, Franklin Pierce Law Center

    Elisabeth Hilbink, University of Minnesota

    Jennifer L. Hochschild, Harvard University

    Scott Horton, Adjunct, Columbia Law School

    Derek Jinks, University of Texas School of Law

    Jerry Kang, UCLA School of Law

    Lisa A. Kelly, University of Washington School of Law

    Heinz Klug, University of Wisconsin

    Itzchak E. Kornfeld, Drexel University

    Ariana R. Levinson, UCLA School of Law

    Sanford Levinson, University of Texas Law School

    Robert Justin Lipkin, Widener University School of Law

    Lynn M. LoPucki, UCLA School of Law

    David Luban, Georgetown University Law Center

    Deborah Maranville, University of Washington School of Law

    Ann Elizabeth Mayer, University of Pennsylvania

    Jamie Mayerfeld, University of Washington

    Joel Migdal, University of Washington

    Martha Minow, Harvard Law School

    William W. Monning, Monterrey College of Law

    Kathleen M. Moore, University of California-Santa Barbara

    Forrest S. Mosten, UCLA School of Law

    Ken Mott, Gettysburg College

    Stephen R. Munzer, UCLA School of Law

    Jyoti Nanda, UCLA School of Law

    Smita Narula, New York University School of Law

    Julie Novkov, University of Oregon

    Frances Olsen, UCLA School of Law

    John Orcutt, Franklin Pierce Law Center

    Arzoo Osanloo, University of Washington

    Jordan J. Paust, University of Houston

    William P. Quigley, Loyola University, New Orleans

    Christopher J. Peters, Wayne State University Law School

    Judith Resnik, Yale Law School

    Sandra L. Rierson, Thomas Jefferson School of Law

    Brad R. Roth, Wayne State University

    Gary Rowe, UCLA School of Law

    Austin Sarat, Amherst College

    Margaret L. Satterthwaite, New York University School of Law

    Stuart A. Scheingold, University of Washington

    Kim Lane Scheppele, Woodrow Wilson School and Princeton University

    Benjamin N. Schiff, Oberlin College

    David Schultz, Hamline University

    Robert A. Sedler, Wayne State University

    Barry Shanks, Franklin Pierce Law Center

    Anne-Marie Slaughter, Dean, Woodrow Wilson School, Princeton University

    Charles Anthony Smith, University of Miami

    Eunice Son, UCLA School of Law

    Susan Sterett, University of Denver

    Jacqueline Stevens, University of California-Santa Barbara

    Katherine Stone, UCLA School of Law

    Steven Tauber, University of South Florida

    Samuel. C. Thompson, Jr, UCLA School of Law

    Beth Van Schaack, Santa Clara University School of Law

    Andrew Strauss, Widener University School of Law

    Stephen I. Vladeck, University of Miami School of Law

    Richard Weisberg, Cardozo Law School

    Deborah M. Weissman, University of North Carolina School of Law

    Burns H. Weston, University of Iowa and Vermont Law School

    Adam Winkler, UCLA School of Law

    Maryann Zavez, Vermont Law School

    Richard O. Zerbe Jr., University of Washington

    I think these people have a little more authority on the subject than mr. waterboarding isn't torture. give me a break

  • Anonymous
    4 years ago

    You're proper. If the ones youngsters had been pointing AK-47s at our combating guys and females, they will have to had been gunned down immediate as an alternative than captured and tortured later.

  • 1 decade ago

    To be quite fair, this case has nothing to do with Bush. However you may safely say that as President and commander in chief of the USA should be partially blamed for the torture of suspected terrorists.

  • 1 decade ago

    The CIA use torture because some of them like it. Its a bit much when the great home of Freedom and Democracy blatantly flaunts the Geneva convention and violates many other conventions too like flying suspects (rendition) all over the planet in order to torture them in countries who practice it themselves.

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  • 1 decade ago

    Horrible story out of Texas. ugh!

    But I think I have an answer for your question. It's a little deep, so follow.

    They torture suspects to elicit answers they want to further their agenda. For example they (supposedly) got Khalid Shiehk Mohammad (sp?) to confess to being the mastermind of 911, though none of the evidence points to him or his group. They could torture Iranians to say Iran has a million nukes pointed at Jerusalem and Crawford -- BINGO we got our next war! yay!


  • 1 decade ago

    First of all, water-boarding isn't torture. It is merely a psychological method used to change the state of mind of the subject. Second of all, I don't care if terrorists are tortured even to the point of death. They are evil people who want to kill you and as many westerners as they can. You need to put the pipe down and wake up.

    Source(s): OIF Vet, proud to kill terrorists for freedom!
  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    Because presumably the adults are cognitively and developmentally able to do what is demanded of them.

    I am not defending it, but there is a distinction.

  • 1 decade ago

    If that is the premise, maybe during Bush childhood, it was made effective to him....can you send email to WH address to Pres....for confirmation pls? Be sure he will be honest to the way when was a politician had been honest to citizens?

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