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Anonymous asked in Politics & GovernmentPolitics · 1 decade ago

should un for Taiwan?

recently Taiwan argue with America, and main land China, about un for Taiwan....

What do you think about that? Should un for Taiwan?

Update:

recently Taiwan argue with America, and main land China, about un for Taiwan....and the articals about that is totally different from mainland and taiwan, taiwanese said some of the local strongly disagree with goverment's decisions.

So :What do YOU think about that? Should un for Taiwan? not goverment think about it should or it should not....hence it just for personal interest.

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  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago
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    The people of Taiwan deserve representation in the UN.

    Taiwan is not a part of China.

    But, untill there is formed a country called "Taiwan", then Taiwan cannot join the UN. The ROC cannot join the UN masquerading as "Taiwan"!

    The key point that keeps Taiwan out of the UN today is because the ROC does not hold the legal title to Taiwan's territory. The ROC is a government in exile of China which is occupying Taiwan's territory.

    Untill the people of Taiwan are able to dissolve or overthrow the ROC government, and form a "Government of Taiwan", then there is no chance to enter the UN.

    Unfortunately the majority of the Taiwanese people have been brainwashed by the ROC under the KMT regime to believe that Taiwan is a part of the ROC and thus, China. This is clearly not the case.

    Taiwan's present status is as a former Japanese cession which is occupied by the United States Military Government as primary occupier and the ROC as the subordinate occupier.

    See the relevant treaty, the San Francisco Peace Treaty.

    The confusion comes in because the Nationalist Chinese (the ROC), who were the recognized government of China since the end of the Qing Dynasty in 1911, lost the civil war to the communists in 1949, yet they continued to insist that they, not the PRC were the rightful government of China. At the time they still had diplomatic relations with most countries and had a seat on the Permanent Security Council at the UN.

    So there seemed to be 2 Chinas. But even at that time they had already lost, unless they were able to somehow retake China from the communists. History shows that they never did. But they continue to occupy Taiwan after all these years.

    During the civil war in China, they had been occupying the Japanese colony Formosa (Taiwan) on behalf of the Americans since 1945. The Americans were the conquerers and primary occupiers of Japan and their jurisdiction was clearly over Formosa. The Americans had decided to delegate the occupation of Formosa to the Chinese Nationalists, but reserved their rights as the official Primary occupier.

    In clear violation of the Geneva convention, in 1946, the ROC forcibly made all the people of Taiwan ROC citizens en masse. This was and is totally illegal.

    When the Nationalist forces collapsed against the communists in China, they moved their capitol to Taipei, Taiwan in 1949 and thus became a government in exile. Remember-Taiwan/Formosa was still Japanese territory at the time!

    It's key to note here that under international law, there are NO actions which a government in exile can take in its current location of residence in order to be recognized as the local legitimate government. Hence, Taiwan's current international problems have arisen from the fact that the ROC government in exile is not internationally recognized as the legitimate government of Taiwan. Taiwan is not part of the ROC's territory. (The only territory left to the ROC are the tiny islands of Jinmen and Matsu of Fujian Province.)

    The war between the ROC and PRC has never been formally concluded, but I think it isn't hard to figure out who won the war.

    On October 25, 1971, Resolution 2758 was passed by the General Assembly, withdrawing recognition of the ROC as the legitimate government of China, and recognising the PRC as the sole legitimate government of China.

    The ROC was asked if it wanted to remain in the United Nations as a separate country, but not as the lawful representative of the Chinese people. Dictator Chiang Kai-shek refused the invitation, saying he would not allow the ROC to be a member of the UN if the PRC was allowed in.

    Resolution 2758 merely transferred the UN seat from the ROC to the PRC, but did not address the issue of Taiwan's representation in the UN at all. The PRC government has never held jurisdiction over Taiwan, and the United Nations has never taken a formal stance regarding the sovereignty of Taiwan in any way.

    The sovereign title to a territory is determined by the relevant treaty. A treaty is like the deed to a house or the title to an automobile. Treaties are the highest law of the land, equal in force to the constitution itself. The relevant treaty regarding Taiwan's present title of ownership is the San Francisco Peace Treaty.

    Formosa/Taiwan was ceded by its previous owners, Japan, in the San Francisco Peace Treaty in 1952. There was no recipient of Taiwan's sovereignty named. The USA was named in the treaty as the principal occupier. By the laws of war, the principal occupier holds the territory's sovereignty in trust and have the power to decide what to do with it. Thus, Taiwan's sovereignty is held by the US untill further notice.

    It is precisely how the US state dept. describes it. They said that "Taiwan does not enjoy sovereignty as a nation" and that "it's status is undetermined."

    To summarize:

    Taiwan is a cession under the jurisdiction of the United States being administered by the ROC government in exile. It has nothing to do with the PRC. The Taiwanese are trying hard to rid themselves of the ROC and normalize their country, but without the help of the holders of Taiwan's sovereignty (the US), they can't do it. Unfortunately for every man woman and child in Taiwan, the US prefers the status quo. It suits their purposes.

  • Me
    Lv 6
    6 years ago

    People of Taiwan definitely deserve to be part of UN.

    Taiwan is a country, it has its own president and Legislative branch elected by the people.

    Even though Taiwan was previously ruled by China (that's why they claim that Taiwan is part of China), it was also ruled by Japan, Dutch, and Spain before; there's not reason to say Taiwan is part of China.

    Smaller countries with smaller population & territories have representation in the UN, why can't Taiwan be?

    The only reason that Taiwan cannot be in the UN is the fact that China is one of the 5 security council in the UN, and they will NEVER vote for Taiwan to enter the UN. Isn't this unfair?

  • ?
    Lv 6
    1 decade ago

    Taiwan is not recognized as a sovereign nation by the U.N. and on that rationale it had been denied membership since 1991. However, Taiwan maintains it is separate from mainland China and should in fact be considered a separate country. China which has veto power has rejected this argument. I believe that Taiwan is a separate entity from China and should be accepted to the United Nations.

  • 1 decade ago

    Taiwan should be accepted to join U.N. but under it's current legal name "Republic of China" because U.N. membership requires a "nation". Whether ROC should change its name to Taiwan or else is for future discussion. Since "Taiwan" represents a region rather than a nation at this time, it shouldn't be used to join U.N.

    PRC has never owned any portion of Taiwan since its establishment in 1949 and has never acted in U.N. on behalf of people of Taiwan. Therefore, PRC does not represent people of Taiwan. People of Taiwan should have their seat in U.N. and its name should be "ROC".

    To alfajuj...There is a treaty. It's called "Treaty of Peace" signed in Taipei in 1952 between ROC and Japan.

    Article 4

    "It is recognised that all treaties, conventions, and agreements concluded before 9 December 1941 between Japan and China have become null and void as a consequence of the war." Since Taiwan was a province of China(Qing dynasty) prior to the Japanese occupation, Taiwan was to be returned to China(ROC) after WWII.

    Article 10

    "For the purposes of the present Treaty, nationals of the Republic of China shall be deemed to include all the inhabitants and former inhabitants of Taiwan (Formosa) and Penghu (the Pescadores) and their descendents who are of the Chinese nationality in accordance with the laws and regulations which have been or may hereafter be enforced by the Republic of China in Taiwan (Formosa) and Penghu (the Pescadores); and juridical persons of the Republic of China shall be deemed to include all those registered under the laws and regulations which have been or may hereafter be enforced by the Republic of China in Taiwan (Formosa) and Penghu (the Pescadores)."

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  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    The Secretary-General of the United Nations has already advised that there is no legal way that Taiwan can be admitted to the United Nations.

    He has made this statement more than once.

    Hence, all efforts being spent on these ridiculous "Taiwan join the UN campaign" should be stopped immediately. All the monies budgeted for these activities can be put to much better use somewhere else.

    Source(s): News Releases of the United Nations
    • Me
      Lv 6
      6 years agoReport

      It's only China that made it impossible.

  • 3 years ago

    yes go

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