Ok Mickeyboy, I do hope you are just being sarcastic. I see the little darlings are appealing against their sentence and rightly so. Two years detention? ridiculous. If I was the appeal judge I'd tell them I agree with them, 2 years detention is completely out of order - then I would immediately triple it, and tell them they would have to serve the full 6 years. They've killed a man in front of his son for no reason at all, purely for fun, and left his family devastated. Black mark for DCI Heys, though, he said the case was a tragedy for Norton's family and "for the boys themselves. They will have a stain on their characters for the rest of their life". Little b*ggers, I have NO sympathy for them.