Benjamin Franklin stated "Those who are willing to sacrifice liberty for safety deserve neither". What many of you posters are forgetting is that the President took and oath to defend the constitution against ALL enemies both FOREIGN and DOMESTIC, yet the patriot act flies directly in the face of the constitution.
I have the perfect solution to stop terrorism -- stop screwing around with other people's countries, let them govern themselves they way they best see fit. The founding fathers warned us not to get involved in the affairs of other nations, yet the US has military bases in some 130 countries.
Due to my job, I have to deal with people from all over the world on a constant basis, and one group of people I've had to deal with are muslims. They don't hate us for our freedoms, that's a crock of crap. If you were from a very religious group, would you want the freedoms that we American's are projecting -- teen pregnancies, gangs, school shootings (Columbine), drugs, kids killing each other for their sneakers or because someone "looked" at them in a way they didn't like, promiscuity, songs with filthy lyrics. If you were a conservative religious person would you want those kind of freedoms? What the terrorists are angry about is how they are treated, how we American's exert our authority and might and trample on theirs without any regard to their wishes - that's what their ticked about.
I was not born here, I was born in India and immigrated to the States with my family when I was 4 years old. When I became a citizen, I took an oath to support and defend our constitution from all enemies both foreign and domestic and it irks me when I see American's that were born and bred here who are so quick to give up and trash the document that the founding fathers of this great nation so willing gave their lives for. We have young men and women dying in Afghanistan and Iraq dying to defend this constitution, that one you are so quick to dismantle.
I am positive the terrorists are laughing their a**es off knowing that 9/11 didn't inflict near as much damage as the very fact that American's themselves are blindly marching lock step into a police state. I have the privilege of speaking with a former WWII vet (you know, the guys that defeated Hitler) and he very strongly told me that he is seeing the same things happening now in the US that were happening in mid 1930's Germany. And not only him, but one elderly Jewish gentleman that lived through the holocaust, who packed up his bags and moved back to Germany because he sees the same things happening here that were happening in Germany prior to the war.
I am an American by choice, I take very seriously my oath to defend this country and the US Constitution and for those who are so quick to give it up -- shame on you. But, fear not, you will get your wish. Call me crazy and insane, but you mark my words, this nation will one day become an oppressor and will turn on it's citizens. And we will have no one to blame but ourselves. You may call me insane, but when the day comes where you will need to present your "papers" and you realize that you are now living in a police state, remember when I have written here.
A patriot that is disgusted with seeing so many people treat our great Constitution with so little respect.