Doesn't evil and suffering prove that God doesn't care?
"I was wondering how you can believe in God when there is so many things that are going wrong in the world and it is obvious that he doesn't care?"
- 1 decade agoFavorite Answer
Things going wrong in the world in no way prove that God doesn't care. We live in a world where people have, for the most part, rejected God...
"We all, like sheep, have gone astray, each of us has turned to his own way." (Isaiah 53:6)
"There is no one who does good, not even one." (Psalms 53:3)
"There is not a righteous man on earth who does what is right and never sins." (Ecclesiastes 7:20)
Maybe the wrongs things in the world are not pleasing to God at all. Maybe He doesn't like the way the world is (maybe He dislikes it much more than we do), but has, in a sense, allowed others to run it for a time. Jesus told His disciples to pray for God's will to be done on the earth, as it is in heaven (Matthew 6:10). The obvious implication then is that God's moral will is not always done here on earth, even if His permissive will is.
In the end it is a matter of God's character. Is God a God of love and compassion? According to the Bible, He is...
"As a father has compassion on his children, so the LORD has compassion on those who fear him." (Psalms 103:13)
"The LORD is good to all; he has compassion on all he has made." (Psalms 145:9)
"The LORD is righteous in all his ways and loving toward all he has made." (Psalms 145:17)
The Bible says that God is love (1John 4:8,16). It could be that part of His loving nature is that He allows people to have free will. God did not create us as robots. As a result, we have evil, pain and suffering, due to the choices we and others make.
Even if God has allowed evil to exist for a time, He promises to eradicate it fully in the future (Revelation 21:3-5). And in His love, God has provided a way for each of us to be forgiven of the evils we've done and the pain we've caused others...
"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." (John 3:16)
"God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us." (Romans 5:8)
"This is how God showed his love among us: He sent his one and only Son into the world that we might live through him. This is love: not that we loved God, but that he loved us and sent his Son as an atoning sacrifice for our sins." (1John 4:9-10)
- 4 years ago
Don't worry about whether a magical deity is indifferent to suffering or not but rather take action to ameliorate the suffering you witness happening around you. Ask yourself how many countless holocausts, purges, wars, plagues and famines there have been throughout history and what any god of any religion has done to intervene and stop that suffering from occurring. You will see that humankind is its own savior. Sometimes people try to impute human actions to an imaginary deity such as when an army rescues civilians from an oppressive ruler. But humans really deserve mention for these types of actions because the timely arrival of a rescuing army, vaccine or monetary windfall cannot be ascribed to a god that sits on the sidelines in much the same way that a bored old man would view his ant farm on a Sunday afternoon. So...it matters not whether god cares or not but whether YOU care or not. You can pass the homeless man on the street and go home and pray for him or her...but you're not helping that person by wishing better luck for them. Wishing is an unproductive response to misery, misfortune and calamity. You'd be better off giving the bum a sandwich or a hug instead. That's more than God would do.
- 1 decade ago
If God is so powerful why does he permit evil in the world?
The first thing we need to understand is that the world we live in is not the way God originally created it. It's broke. Our environment is broke. Our minds do not function correctly. Our will is bent on doing the wrong thing. Our emotions can be in a state of turmoil. Our bodies are susceptible to disease and eventual death. Sin has contaminated every aspect of society. God permits evil temporarily, but He promises us there will be a day when He will judge evil and eliminate it all.
"The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. He is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance. But the day of the Lord will come like a thief. The heavens will disappear with a roar; the elements will be destroyed by fire, and the earth and everything in it will be laid bare. Since everything will be destroyed in this way, what kind of people ought you to be? You ought to live holy and godly lives as you look forward to the day of God and speed its coming. That day will bring about the destruction of the heavens by fire, and the elements will melt in the heat. But in keeping with his promise we are looking forward to a new heaven and a new earth, the home of righteousness." (2Pt.3:9-13 NIV)
God is doing us all a favor by not eliminating evil because his definition of evil is different than ours. We tend to see everyone else as evil, yet overlook our own faults. The problem is that if God did eliminate all evil, we just might be part of the evil he eliminates. It is only by his mercy and grace that we are allowed to exist, with the hope of one day being saved.Source(s): http://kencrump.org/faqs/God/11.htm
- Anonymous1 decade ago
If you believe what the Mormons believe(not the whole thing) then they have the reason WHY the world is so full of hate.
In Heaven, all the angels were happy and peaceful, but they didn't know that. So in order for them to realize how happy and perfect Heaven is, God sent them to earth(as humans) to feel heartache and pain, sadness and anger, so that when they return to Heaven they will truly know what peace is.Source(s): *claps for JP* Spoken like a believer...even if you're not one, you sure have values that we(Christians) should have lol!
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- FuzzyLv 71 decade ago
It's always God's fault, it seems.
Even when you go and gamble and lose all your money, that is God's fault?
When you drive recklessly and have an accident that kills and maims yourself, your family, and strangers -- why didn't God stop me from being evil?
When I go to way and kill innocents? Why didn't God stop me from being evil?
EVERYTHING IS GOD'S FAULT, RIGHT!
Who is making wars? Men are.
Who is causing poverty? Our own societies that we create are.
Who causes the system to make health care impossible expensive, because the doctors have be filthy rich? Men do.
God gave men self rule because the refused his, thus to prove if their rule is any good he lets us suffer our own woes.
Read this page Evil-Why?
The HP can be found on my profile. I am not permitted, it seems, to include the link here.
- Anonymous1 decade ago
The uncertainties of life and the vicissitudes of existence do not in any manner contradict the concept of the universal sovereignty of God. All evolutionary creature life is beset by certain inevitabilities. Consider the following:
1. Is courage--strength of character--desirable? Then must man be reared in an environment which necessitates grappling with hardships and reacting to disappointments.
2. Is altruism--service of one's fellows--desirable? Then must life experience provide for encountering situations of social inequality.
3. Is hope--the grandeur of trust--desirable? Then human existence must constantly be confronted with insecurities and recurrent uncertainties.
4. Is faith--the supreme assertion of human thought--desirable? Then must the mind of man find itself in that troublesome predicament where it ever knows less than it can believe.
5. Is the love of truth and the willingness to go wherever it leads, desirable? Then must man grow up in a world where error is present and falsehood always possible.
6. Is idealism--the approaching concept of the divine--desirable? Then must man struggle in an environment of relative goodness and beauty, surroundings stimulative of the irrepressible reach for better things.
7. Is loyalty--devotion to highest duty--desirable? Then must man carry on amid the possibilities of betrayal and desertion. The valor of devotion to duty consists in the implied danger of default.
8. Is unselfishness--the spirit of self-forgetfulness--desirable? Then must mortal man live face to face with the incessant clamoring of an inescapable self for recognition and honor. Man could not dynamically choose the divine life if there were no self-life to forsake. Man could never lay saving hold on righteousness if there were no potential evil to exalt and differentiate the good by contrast.
9. Is pleasure--the satisfaction of happiness--desirable? Then must man live in a world where the alternative of pain and the likelihood of suffering are ever-present experiential possibilities.Source(s): Urantia book
- trinityLv 51 decade ago
The only thing that all of the suffering proves, is that mankind will never cease to come up with more ways to hurt, torture and destroy themselves and the planet they live on.
Regardless of your religious affiliation, how can one claim that "God" is responsible for all of the mayhem and chaos, when we as a race continually make choices that hurt ourselves and others?
Blessings To You and Yours
- Anonymous1 decade ago
It's not that god doesn’t care. It's that he doesn’t exist.
There is absolutely no proof that he exists...NONE!
The only proposed poof is:
1- The bible
2- Christians claiming to have 'felt his presence.'
3- The belief that all things must be created therefore there must be a creator.
4- The ever famous and highly popular, "Just look around at how beautiful and complex the universe is. Only a being as powerful and sublime as god could have constructed it."
These are all ridiculous and fanciful lies people tell themselves to allow themselves to keep believing in lies so that they do not have to face the truth of life without god.
If we look more closely at the proposed proof we can see the flaws easily.
1 - The bible: This book is a book of bedtime stories, myths, legends and fairy tails. Biblical scholars have created timelines based on the names and ages of the persons in the old testament. The can follow this timeline back and have placed the time of Creation (when the earth and the heavens were separated) to about 4095 BC, that's about 6,102 years ago. Man was created 8 days later. Yet we know for a fact that the earth is about 4.57 billion years old and many of the stars in the heavens are much older then that. We also know that modern man (Homo sapien sapiens) have been around since at least 130,000 years ago. That's almost 124,000 years before the biblical creation story. So where did those people come from? Another god? Then bible thumpers love to discuses the great flood. "Oh!" they start, "There was a great flood, geologists have proven that. Besides, all major civilizations have recorded a great flood, so we know it's real." Um...yea! Okay, try this one on for size. There have been a great number of major floods in the history of the world. Some lasted decades, some lasted longer. Most were caused by melting ice caps from the last ice age. The last know flood of this caber occurring in the area of the world described in the bible took place around 7,600 years ago, some 1,500 years before the biblical creation story, over 3,000 years before the biblical flood supposedly happened. Come to think of it, the Indian Ocean tsunami of '04 would most likely have been considered a biblical event if it occurred in a Hebrew inhabited area of the world back before we had a scientific understanding of geological events.
2) Sure, Christians claim to have 'felt gods presence' all the time. Then again, some Hindus claim to have felt Shiva, Vishnu, etc...; Muslims claim to have felt the presence of Allah, Wiccans can feel their goddess, druids claim to commune with the Green man and to talk with him and receive answers. There are even those of more ancient religions, like different aboriginal tribes in Africa, that claim to have had personal contact with their guiding spirits. Are all of these supernatural beings real? According to Christians, all those who have these feelings about beings other then god are actually being fooled by Satan, because only Christians are right in their faith. All others are mistaken. (Yea! Okay.)
3- Okay, if all things MUST be created and therefore, there must be a creator and that creator is god, who created god? What was that? No one created god, he always was and always will be? Oh! Ok, so then the universe could simply have always been and always will be (since energy isn’t really created or destroyed and just changes form) and that all the different things within the universe could simply be random naturally occurring events. Right? Oh! What was that the Christen just said? He said, "The universe can't be everlasting, because EVERYTHING must be created. So there must be a creator." Okay, so I'll ask again, who created god? And round and round and round we go!
4- When I hear the statement, "Only a being as powerful and sublime as god could have constructed the universe in all it glory." What those people are really saying to me is, "Humanity has been around for 130k years. The universe has been around for 13.7 billion years, more or less. The Observable universe contains more then one hundred billion galaxies each containing hundreds of billions of stars. Humanity hasn’t even completed explored our own planet yet, so we still have so much more to learn, but I don’t want to wait for science to understand the reality of the situation. It is much more 'magical' and fun to believe in a god." They may as well substitute fairies or unicorns in place of god. It would be just as silly.
The simple fact of the matter is, humanity is here. WE are real. This god people talk about is a man made myth used to help explain the things we don’t understand and to help keep people in place. After all, if someone believes is god and you tell them, god said to do some special thing. Chances are, that person will do it, even if only for a short time.
As for the bad things that happen in the world. Natural disasters are just natures way of working. Sometime people die. It's the natural way of things. As for the disaster made by man, most of them are brought about by greed and/or religion. The sad thing is, I can understand greed. But these fools that kill for a religion that teaches peace are just out of their mind.
I hope this helps!
- Anonymous1 decade ago
There is no god. He can't care. Nature rules. All things happen because of cause and effect.
And the god of the old testament WAS the cause of endless suffering.
- Agnostic FrontLv 61 decade ago
No, but it proves you believe in him. He has to exist to not care right? I guess he is mean, and you believe in him but choose not to worship him in his almighty state. Doesn't sound like a good decision to me.