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Why are libs so upset that Bush pardoned Libby?

Why is it wrong to pardon Libby when CLINTON pardoned the following 140 people????

Verla Jean Allen, Nicholas M. Altiere, Bernice Ruth Altschul, Joe Anderson Jr., William Sterling Anderson, Mansour Azizkhani, Cleveland Victor Babin Jr., Chris Harmon Bagley, Scott Lynn Bane, Thomas Cleveland Barber, Peggy Ann Bargon, Roscoe Blampied, William Arthur Borders Jr., Arthur David Borel, Douglas Chrles Borel. George Thomas Brabham Almon Glenn Braswell Leonard Browder David Steven Brown Delores Caroylene Burleson, aka Delores Cox Burleson John H. Bustamante Mary Louise Campbell Eloida Candelaria Dennis Sobrevinas Capili Donna Denise Chambers Douglas Eugene Chapman Ronald Keith Chapman Francisco Larois Chavez Henry Cisneros Roger Clinton, Jr. Stuart Harris Cohn David Marc Cooper Ernest Harley Cox Jr. John F. Cross Jr. Reickey Lee Cunningham Richard Anthony De Labio John Deutch Richard Douglas Edward Reynolds Downe Marvin Dean Dudley Larry Lee Duncan Robert Clinton Fain Marcos Arcenio Fernandez Alvarez Ferrouillet William Dennis Fugazy Lloyd Reid George Louis Goldstein Rubye Lee Gordon Pincus Green Robert Ivey Hamner Samuel Price Handley Woodie Randolph Handley Jay Houston Harmon Rick Hendrick John Hummingson David S. Herdlinger Debi Rae Huckleberry Warren C. Hultgren Jr. Donald Ray James Stanley Pruet Jobe Ruben H. Johnson Linda Jones James Howard Lake June Louise Lewis Salim Bonnor Lewis John Leighton Lodwick Hildebrando Lopez Jose Julio Luaces James Timothy Maness James Lowell Manning, John Robert Martin Frank Ayala Martinez Silvia Leticia Beltran Martinez John Francis McCormick Susan H. McDougal Howard Mechanic Brook K. Mitchell Sr. Samuel Loring Morison Charles Wilfred Morgan III Richard Anthony Nazzaro Charlene Ann Nosenko Vernon Raymond Obermeier Miguelina Ogalde David C. Owen Robert W. Palmer Kelli Anne Perhosky Richard H. Pezzopane Orville Rex Phillips Vinson Stewart Poling Jr. Norman Lyle Prouse Willie H.H. Pruitt Jr.Danny Martin Pursley Sr. Charles D. Ravenel William Clyde Ray Alfredo Luna Regalado Ildefonso Reynes Ricafort Marc Rich Howard Winfield Riddle Richard Wilson Riley Jr. Samuel Lee Robbins Joel Gonzales Rodriguez Michael James Rogers Anna Louise Ross Dan Rostenkowski - Gerald Glen Rust Jerri Ann Rust Bettye June Rutherford Gregory Lee Sands Adolph Schwimmer Albert A. Seretti Jr. Patricia Campbell Hearst Shaw Dennis Joseph Smith Gerald Owen Smith Stephen A. Smith Jimmie Lee Speake Charles Bernard Stewart Marlena Francisca Stewart-Rollins Fife Symington III - ormer Arizona governor Richard Lee Tannehill Nicholas C. Tenaglia Gary Allen Thomas Larry Weldon Todd Olga C. Trevino Ignatious Vamvouklis Patricia A. Van e Weerd Christopher V. Wade Bill Wayne Warmath Jack Kenneth Watson Donna Lynn Webb Donald William Wells Robert H. Wendt Jack L. Williams Kavin Arthur Williams Robert Michael Williams Jimmie Lee Wilson Thelma Louise Wingate Mitchell Couey Wood Warren Stannard Wood Dewey Worthey Rick Allen Yale Joseph A. Yasak William Stanley Yingling Phillip David Young Keith Sanders Darren Muci John Scott (not a full pardon) Anthony M Pilla

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  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago
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    Liberals aren't upset that Bush pardoned Libby. Liberals are upset that it was Bush. After all, they can do whatever they want to, but anything a conservative does is automatically horrible. Clinton pardoned these people because they deserved it, no matter what they did. Bush is not allowed to pardon anyone for anything because he is not a liberal. Simple as that

  • Anonymous
    4 years ago

    Absolutely, Bush will pardon him. Scooter can drag out appeals and Bush can pardon hin as he leaves office. I think we know that had Cheney or Rove been named by Libby, he wouldn't have taken the fall for them. Why is this pardon especially heinous? Because we all suspect that Libby only lied for those higher ups-how high does it go? Feels Watergate-ish to me. This is only the beginning. I just want to add for those who keep saying "Plame wasn't covert" & anyone could have obtained that information. If your comany has your SS# on file, do you think he should divulge your Social Security # in a staff meeting?

  • 1 decade ago

    1st of all-I'm not upset. 2nd-he did not pardon Libby, he only commuted the prison sentence. The Department of Justice has specific, written guidelines for both commutations and pardons and Libby didn't meet any of the guidelines. The argument that others have violated these guidelines is always an odd justification to me. I don't get out of a speeding ticket because someone passed me driving faster. It's never a legal defense that "he did it, too" so I wish everyone would come off that crap. Some of Clinton's pardons were wrong, too, but I thought the great Christian Bush was better than his predecessor? After all, Clinton actually got impeached for his little escapade with Monica, so he got punished. George Washington owned slaves. So, slavery's ok? Interesting that Bush can find it in his heart to commute Libby's sentence as "too harsh" but wouldn't do anything for the border patrol agents who wounded a Mexican drug dealer (who is now suing the U.S. for damages) because they "got a fair trial and were convicted by a jury of their peers", to quote Bush. Those agents are in a federal penitentiary and get almost no "good time." The hypocrisy is amazing.

  • 1 decade ago

    Libbey didn't get a pardon, he is still guilty and has to pay the fine and be on parole his sentence was commuted meaning he wont serve jail time. Bush found time to do this but he wont pardon the two border guards. Libbey will get his pardon just before Bush goes out of office. Stop comparing Bush and Clinton they both abused the office of the president, maybe for different reasons but just the same one is no better than the other when it comes to this issue.

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  • 1 decade ago

    Your litany of Clinton's unpardonable pardons is only relevant insofar as this points up the disgraceful fact that a supposedly independent judiciary system can be undermined by political machinations for selfish ends. Why should any individual have the power to overturn due process?

    What Bush has done is not justified by past hypocrisy - he commuted that sentence because Libby acted in his interests, probably with his approval. There's no hiding behind Clinton on this. More wrongs do not make it right.

    Does it feel good to have a Republican President who believes his interests are more important than the rule of law? Bush's actions would shame previous great incumbents like Nixon, Reagan, Bush Sr... er... oh.

    Maybe not.

  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    I'm sick of hearing about this already. Every President pardons criminals. The opposite party screams foul no matter who they are. Bush 41 pardoned 4 felons involved in Iran-Contra and the Democrats had a fit. Clinton pardoned all those people and the Republicans had a fit. It happens over and over and over. Everybody points fingers at everybody else and in the end it's a usual practice of Presidents every time. I'm definitely in the "so what" contingent on all of this.

  • shelly
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    1 decade ago

    Of course! The old, "...but Clinton did this....!!" ~ cut to Rep mentioning something that isn't remotely the same. Yawn.

    Clinton didn't pardon anyone that was found guilty of something surrounding an investigation within his own administration (all Pres.' pardon). Libby was Cheney's chief of staff for god's sake. Doesn't that reek of corruption? Don't you want a more transparent government than this? Clinton was investigated for his pardons, no grounds were found to indict. I'm not saying I agree with Clinton's pardons, it's clearly ridiculously excessive; but this is just a completely separate situation ~ so your logic in comparing the 2 is flawed. This is also happening NOW with an administration that is known for it's secrecy and corruption.

    All that being said ~ I fully expected it and what I'm upset with is this administration as a whole, not just this single event. It didn't surprise me one bit.

  • 1 decade ago

    Actually Bush didn't PARDON Libby yet....but I am sure he will. And YES every president pardons ppl but it's pretty ballsy that he did what he did right now, esp. since Libby is the fall guy for all the Prez and Prez' men's lying. I was sure he would pardon Libby but I thought that would happen when he left office--I did not think about him commuting his sentance....I chose not to be that pessimistic.

  • 1 decade ago

    Yank says it, will you listen? Treason tops the list of impeachable offenses for Executive branch! Many people went to jail during Vietnam war for disclosing Pentagon papers. Ordinary citizens would and have suffered the full force, including being murdered, for messing with CIA. Infidelity and lying about it-treason and lying about it. I don't begin to know the crimes of most you list. do You?

  • 1 decade ago

    These pardons should all be against the law. Why be on a jury when your decision makes no difference?

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