Did the prophets before Jesus believed in the trinity ? if yes where is the proof ?
- oldguy63Lv 71 decade agoFavorite Answer
Of course. It is a Bible teaching. Read the first two verses of the Bible and you have God and the Spirit of God both listed and disticnt from one another in what they were doing. Genesis 1:1 "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. 2 The earth was formless and void, and darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was moving over the surface of the waters."
- Anonymous1 decade ago
Is the Trinity Clearly a Bible Teaching?
- "Trinity" in the Bible?
- Testimony of the Hebrew Scriptures
- Testimony of the Greek Scriptures
- Taught by Early Christians?
- What the Ante-Nicene Fathers Taught
How Did the Trinity Doctrine Develop?
- Constantine's Role at Nicaea
- Further Development
- The Athanasian Creed
- Apostasy Foretold
- What Influenced the Teaching
- Why Did God's Prophets Not Teach It?
What Does the Bible Say About God and Jesus?
- God Is One, Not Three
- Not a Plural God
- Jesus a Seperate Creation
- Could God Be Tempted? [No!]
- How Much Was the Ransom?
- How the "Only-Begotten Son"?
- Was Jesus Considered to Be God?
What About Trinity "Proof Texts"?Source(s): Should You Believe in the Trinity? http://www.watchtower.org/e/ti/index.htm?article=s...
- 1 decade ago
There is no explicit proof. However, the Orthodox have an Icon of the Holy Trinity which is represented by three angels. St. Andrey Rublev wrote an Icon based on the Hospitality of Abraham (Gen. 18) which may be evidence of an Old Testament Belief.
The Fathers of the Church codified the doctrine of the Holy Trinity as standard for the orthodox practice of Christianity in 325 AD by way of the Nicene Creed. They pronounced Anathema (ecclesiastical curse) on those who did not subscribe to it.Source(s): Wikipedia
- TeeMLv 71 decade ago
No, Gen 1:1,2 the phrase, spirit of God, denotes not equallity, but ownership.
Jesus cast out demons, by God's spirit or God's finger (same account in Matt. vs Luke) again ownership.
Because the trinity is part of the great apostasy that Paul said would come, prior to Jesus return.
According to several reference works, not only is the concept of the trinity not in the bible but it is contrary to the teachings of the bible. The New Encyclopædia Britannica, The New Encyclopædia Britannica, The Encyclopedia Americana to name a few.
Therefore those who quote John 1:1, John 10:30, etc do so out of context.
Why I can’t believe in the royal we, idea to Genesis 1:26 and 3:22,
If Jehovah talked with the royal we or us, etc, why did He only do it only 4-5 times.
Why didn’t He or doesn’t He continue to do to so through out the bible.
Why didn’t He use the royal we at Gen. 1:29, 30 only 3 verses later, or Gen. 2:18, Gen. 3:11, 15
and through out the rest of the bible? Why at Isa. 6:8, does Jehovah say “Whom shall I send”?
Job 38:4-7 shows that the angels were existing at the creation of man, so Jehovah wasn’t alone and had many spirit creatures to talk to.
Instead, which sounds more real and truthful, that Jehovah was talking to someone who is His Master Worker, His Firstborn Son, His Faithful Witness, who is His image, His exact representation, OR He was talking to Himself. (Prov. 8:30; Heb. 1:3; Col 1:15)
Bible scholar Donald E. Gowan said “There is no support in the O[ld] T[estament] for most of the proposed explanations: the royal ‘we,’ the deliberative ‘we,’ the plural of fullness, or an indication of a plurality of persons in the Godhead.
Why does the word Elohim according to Strong’s Cyclopaedia, when it applies to Jehovah means Supreme God, not Gods? Even when this word is applied to Moses (Ex. 4:16 & 7:1) it doesn’t mean that there are 3 Moses, it doesn’t even mean there are 2 Moses.
(Side point when Jesus said if you see me you see the Father, it is because he is the image of God, the exact representation of his Father. When you see an image in a mirror you are seeing a representation, not the actual person. Col 1:15)
(Side point, According to my college dictionary, begotten means “to be born”, to be born means “brought into life or being” when was Jesus brought into life, when he came to life as a baby? No, as Jehovah’s Firstborn of creation Col. 1:15; Rev 3:14)
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- 1 decade ago
THE TRINITY CONCEPT IS DECEPTION AND GOD AND JESUS IS ONE ONLY IN THE WAY THEY THINK, THE PLAN FOR MANKIND. IT IS GOD THE FATHER AND JESUS THE SON. GOD IS A FAMILY AND IS REPRODUCING HISSELF WITH THOSE WHO KEEP HIS LAWS.
It may first be noted that the words “in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one” (KJ) found in older translations at 1 John 5:7 are actually spurious additions to the original text. A footnote in The Jerusalem Bible, a Catholic translation, says that these words are “not in any of the early Greek MSS [manuscripts], or any of the early translations, or in the best MSS of the Vulg[ate] itself.” A Textual Commentary on the Greek New Testament, by Bruce Metzger (1975, pp. 716-718), traces in detail the history of the spurious passage. It states that the passage is first found in a treatise entitled Liber Apologeticus, of the fourth century, and that it appears in Old Latin and Vulgate manuscripts of the Scriptures, beginning in the sixth century. Modern translations as a whole, both Catholic and Protestant, do not include them in the main body of the text, because of recognizing their spurious nature.—RS, NE, NAB.
Other evidence of its impersonal nature. Further evidence against the idea of personality as regards the holy spirit is the way it is used in association with other impersonal things, such as water and fire (Mt 3:11; Mr 1:8); and Christians are spoken of as being baptized “in holy spirit.” (Ac 1:5; 11:16) Persons are urged to become “filled with spirit” instead of with wine. (Eph 5:18) So, too, persons are spoken of as being ‘filled’ with it along with such qualities as wisdom and faith (Ac 6:3, 5; 11:24) or joy (Ac 13:52); and holy spirit is inserted, or sandwiched in, with a number of such qualities at 2 Corinthians 6:6. It is most unlikely that such expressions would be made if the holy spirit were a divine person. As to the spirit’s ‘bearing witness’ (Ac 5:32; 20:23), it may be noted that the same thing is said of the water and the blood at 1 John 5:6-8. While some texts refer to the spirit as ‘witnessing,’ ‘speaking,’ or ‘saying’ things, other texts make clear that it spoke through persons, having no personal voice of its own. (Compare Heb 3:7; 10:15-17; Ps 95:7; Jer 31:33, 34; Ac 19:2-6; 21:4; 28:25.)
- -♦One-♦-Love♦-Lv 71 decade ago
I don't see how they could, because Jesus is part of the trinity...and the prophets were before him! Anyways, the trinity came about when Constantine was doing this and that to christianity!
- Deirdre HLv 71 decade ago
There is no explicit reference to a "trinity" in the Bible. While some passages may be interpreted as such, it isn't something that simply stands out with a casual reading of the text.
It's one of those things that preachers claim to be "obvious", and they make it so when they explain the "clear meaning".
Secret societies also have texts with "clear meanings" that only their initiates are privy to as well.
- Anonymous1 decade ago
Conceptions are confusing for modern generations. Until a 100 yrs ago all reference to 'mankind' meant women as well. "No man is an island entire unto himself....." Elizabethan poet meaning women as well.
"The Holy Spirit cannot come UNLESS I leave you." Jesus
This seems to indicate they can't be in the same place at the same time, or perhaps are the same, yet different.
Or the Holy Spirit is the feminine element of God
- CRONKERSLv 41 decade ago
No. There is no proof that I can give you. I am sorry. I personally do not believe in the Trinity.Source(s): God's Word; The Bible (John 17:3)
- Anonymous1 decade ago
Yes Bhagavad Gita As it is By Bhaktivedanta Prabhupada Spoken by God (Krishna) also known as Allah, Vishnu, Jehovah, etc. It is just in different terminology (Super Soul also known as God in the heart) is the holy ghost. The Father is self explanatory and the Son is the Pure son Of God. go to krishnaculture. for details.