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Scientology-L. Ron hubbard?

has there ever been any people (historians, critics) that gave any credibility to the assertation that L Ron Hubbard might have created Scientology simply to demonstrate the "human will to believe," thusly criticisizing all religions. I have never heard this theory until i thought of it myself. It would make sense, in a way, with him being a "science fiction" author, and all.

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  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago
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    I doubt it was created JUST to make a statement. It does, after all, drain most members of almost every penny to their name. If it were just a harmless lesson, they'd give the money back and say "now, I hope you learned something valuable... be more discerning!"

    It was REALLY created on a bet and ultimately to be a business.

    L. Ron Hubbard and another writer mutualy decided the only way to get power and become rich was to start a religion. They made a bet on who could start a religion first. Hubbard won, thus creating scientology. Its easily the most rich "religion" you'll find.

    Hubbard has been quoted as saying: "Writing for a penny a word is ridiculous. If a man really wants to make a million dollars, the best way would be to start his own religion" http://lisatrust.freewinds.cx/scientology/hubbard....

    The cult is mostly a high powered scam. It pays members 10% commissions, called FSM (Field Staff Member) commissions, on new recruits they bring in who take a course or get counseling, so Scientology members routinely try to "sell" Scientology to others.

    The new members then, in turn, donate vast amounts of money to the "church". Here is a run-down of all the costs involved with Scientology: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientology_as_a_busi...

    Here is testimony from a woman who had been involved in exposing Scientology and other cults for most of her adult life: http://www.clambake.org/archive/books/tsos/sos-19....

    Even more proof that Scientology is out for your money... here is Hubbard discussing turning Scientology into a "religion" for profit:

    "I am not quite sure what we would call the place - probably not a clinic - but I am sure that it ought to be a company, independent of the HAS but fed by the HAS. We don't want a clinic. We want one in operation but not in name. Perhaps we could call it a Spiritual Guidance Center. Think up its name, will you. And we could put in nice desks and our boys in neat blue with diplomas on the walls and 1. knock psychotherapy into history and 2. make enough money to shine up my operating scope and 3. keep the HAS solvent. It is a problem of practical business. I await your reaction on the religion angle. In my opinion, we couldn't get worse public opinion than we have had or have less customers with what we've got to sell. A religious charter would be necessary in Pennsylvania or NJ to make it stick. But I sure could make it stick." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientology_controver...

  • 1 decade ago

    Never heard of it. It is false. I am a Scientologist and I can tell you this isn't true. Scientology is not against other religions. Reversely, Scientology constantly meets with other religious leaders is resolving situations in our communities.

    http://www.humanrightsandtolerance.org.uk/painting...

    Additionally, your statements concerning L. Ron Hubbard as an author show you are missing some key information. You may not have known that L. Ron Hubbard is the most published and translated author per Guinness World Records. He has also had 19 New York Times bestsellers and 230 million of his works have been published. He has written in many genres including western, action, adventure, horror, suspense, science fiction -- not to mention his humanitarian works of Dianetics and Scientology. His "science fiction" work is not the largest percentage of his writings.

    http://www.scientologytoday.org/LRH/Founder/pg0134...

  • 3 years ago

    no longer something hobbies me approximately it as a results of fact it quite is baloney. i admire the form you adapted your question in a ineffective attempt to place human beings off criticizing it. Sorry fella, no longer likely to artwork. What places me off of it are here factors:- a million) at the beginning, even however i do no longer often seperate the two meanings - $cientology is a CULT, no longer a faith 2) they have tax exemption in the U. S. whilst of course they seem to be a earnings making organisation and not a "faith" 3) I relatively have listened to L r Hubbard communicate numerous cases on youtube movies of his television and radio interviews, which incorporate all the Xenu BS and quite frankly in case you may no longer tell he's crazier than a fruit bat then you definately are mad your self. 4) I relatively have examine many articles by former $cientologists and to be uncomplicated little or no if any have been useful 5) Hubbard replaced into quoted as asserting the least complicated thank you to make funds replaced into invent your very own faith 6) I relatively have watched movies of $cientology risk-free practices appearing like they have been the police and attempting to snatch and bodily bully a guy and lady who took some photos close to a $cientology HQ 7) Oh yeah, almost forgot watched a BBC reporter infiltrate $CIENTOLOGY and are available returned with a checklist of what she had to do and witnessed some mad guy attempting to go an ashtray together with his dedication. 8) Watched quite some movies of $cientologists and that i detect them unusual, creepy, deluded and brainwashed persons. i wish that sums up quite properly what my opinion of those human beings is. stay faraway from funds CRAZED CULTS human beings

  • 1 decade ago

    No. But even a minor amount of inspection or investigation of the past and present facts, by anyone, critic, historian, layman... would completely disprove such a "theory".

    Why would ANYONE want criticize and degrade all religions in this insidious manner!

    The fact that YOU can claim ownership to this "theory" makes me think that this might align with your own personal viewpoint of religions.What exactly is YOUR agenda.....??

    Here is a direct quote from an article by L.Ron Hubbard regarding his viewpoint about religions. I would bet that it definitely doesn't align with your own, however.

    "A society is capable of surviving for thousands of years unless it is attacked from within or without by hostile forces. where such an attack occurs, the primary targets are it's religious and national gods and heroes,it's potential of leadership and the self respect and integrity of it's members.

    If you look around you , you will find countless examples of these points. They scream at us every day from the newspapers and TV.

    Probably the most critical point of attack on a culture is it's religious experience. Where one can destroy or undermine religious institutions then the entire fabiric of the society can be quickly subverted or brought to ruin.

    For the last hundred years or so religion has been beset with relentless attack. You have been told it’s the “opiate of the masses “, that it’s unscientific, that it is primitive, in short , that it is a delusion.

    The source of this kind of attack is always covert and hidden. It is promoted by a few who have a vested interest in a slave society.

    Unfortunately these few rely on creating fear and insecurity in others

    to forward and promote their enemy propaganda. These others feel correctly they have to defend themselves from an attack, but because the real enemy is hidden, they can be manipulated to attack what they really should be defending as they cannot see the real enemy.

    The key here is that underneath all these attacks on organised religion there is one fundemental target:

    The spirituality of man, your own basic spiritual nature, self respect and peace of mind. "

    Your "theory" doesn't hold up well against these facts either:

    L.Ron Hubbard completed his research before his death in 1986 and left all of his results and copyrights

    to the Church of Scientology along with most of his considerable personal estate, when he died.

    There are currently over 10 million Scientologists in more than 163 countries world wide.

    You would have to "believe" that the majority of your fellow man

    are nothing but a bunch of sheep, to come up with such a "theory". But to then accuse another of this viewpoint ..... well, shame on you!!

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  • 1 decade ago

    Yes, it does seem to be a logical possibility. But, then, writers often base their books on experiences or dreams. So, it is a mystery as to what really inspires him.

    Isn't it wicked, though. I mean...come ON...he IS A science fiction WRITER. He gets paid to do this. Maybe he wanted a best seller? Seriously. The bible has remained a best seller for as long as they have looked at the figures. Wouldn't you want to have your books continually bought.....

  • 1 decade ago

    I've never read any research or published theory's but it is a good theory. I've always looked at them and the Mormons as one big pyramid scheme. People pay to recruit more people who in turn do the same.

  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    The real reason he created Scientology was to cash in on the fact that, as he himself observed, that religion is tax-exempt and an easy way to separate people from their money.

  • 1 decade ago

    I think that is just the common opinion and no one has set out to debunk his works because he was a science fiction writer.

  • 1 decade ago

    He was quoted as saying (I'm paraphrasing) "Why get paid 5 cents a word writing sci-fi novels when you can create your own religion and get rich quick?" In other words, he was in it for the moolah.

    Source(s): "Science fiction editor and author Sam Moscowitz tells of the occasion when Hubbard spoke before the Eastern Science Fiction Association in Newark, New Jersey in 1947: `Hubbard spoke ... I don't recall his exact words; but in effect, he told us that writing science fiction for about a penny a word was no way to make a living. If you really want to make a million, he said, the quickest way is to start your own religion.'" http://www.don-lindsay-archive.org/scientology/sta...
  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    THIS IS SCIENTOLOGY

    1. What is true for you is what you yourself observe to be true.

    2. Man is his spirit not his mind or his body.

    3. The spirit creates his own mind. Please, do not confuse the mind with the brain that is a physical thing. The mind is composed of mental image pictures as explained in Dianetics. These pictures serve the spirit to give him knowledge and experience. These pictures are composed of energy. The energy in the picture can affect the spirit. You can feel better by remembering something that you like or angry by remembering something else. These emotions are actually energy waves emanated by the picture. You can actually feel pain by remembering a pain memory. Sometimes these pictures are accompanied by ideas or considerations. Lets suppose that you father beat you mom up in front of you. Your father was the dominating figure so you might conclude that you have to act like your father in some situations. This is what we call on Scientology an aberration (a conclusion that is imposed to you by a mental picture). This picture is what we call a engram (a pain memory that affects your judgment and free will).

    4. You can discharge the energy in these pictures through communication. This is Dianetics Auditing and is the oldest of hundreds of Scientology techniques used to improve the individual.

    5. The Spirit creates his own emotions. Are you happy? Are you sad? Are you depress? Maybe you think that something external of you is creating your emotions. Maybe you believe that you are sad because you had a bad day or maybe you believe that you are happy because you had a great day. And this might be true. But who made the decision that you had a good or bad day? You did. You decided if life was good or bad, and adjusted your emotions to respond to your own consideration. You created your own emotion.

    Some people are born with everything they want and are still unhappy. And others are born into humble means and are happy. What's the difference? The only real difference is each person's ideas and considerations.

    Scientology uses hundreds of processes in order to help a person get a better understanding and a better outlook in life by using his own observations.

    6. Scientology Ethics. Ethical people take full responsibility for their actions. Un-ethical people blame others for their actions. "Wrong doings" diminish and deteriorate the freedom of the spirit because the need to justify the "wrong doing". So the spirit is enslaved into repeating the "wrong doing" in order to justify the original "wrong doing". The road to freedom lies within taking full responsibility for your personal condition and actions, past, present and future. Scientology provides the tools to help the person able to be fully responsible over his life thus rehabilitating his ability to be good and self determined.

    Also Scientologist base their conduct on a non-denominational code of conduct. http://twth.org/eb/?id=16664j

    7. Scientology and God. Scientology acknowledges the supreme being and promotes the individual search for closeness to God trough religion.

    8. Scientology vs Psychiatry. Psychiatry believes that self awareness, feelings, love and faith is merely cellular activity. Basically they think that you are your brain and you are not in charge of your behavior but your cells are.This is a totally materialistic point of view that denies the spirit and God. Psychiatrist is a pseudo science because it is based in principles that are false. Psychiatry have never proven that any "mental illnesses" (like they call it) has any connection with a physical illness. Any Neurologist will tell you there are no medical test to identify a "mental illness". All Psychiatrists base their diagnosis on opinion and opinion alone.

    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3895596783...

    http://video.yahoo.com/video/play?p=cchr&toggle=1&...

    Happiness, exhilaration, depression and psychosis are states of mind, not diseases. All what you have to do to stop being depress is change your state of mind. How you do that? By changing your ideas and considerations. Scientology provides the tools to achieve a better state of mind in accordance with your own point of view.

    Also Psychiatrist excuse the most horrendous crimes as mental illnesses. This is actually creates a sense of irresponsibility in society because it tells people that they are not responsible for their actions. Second they promote that drugs are the answer for your problems. This message promotes the use of drugs to find release from life and creates the current drug addiction problem in society. Drugs will only give you temporary false release but will never solve the source of your problems.And actually drugs will keep you away from finding a true spiritual release.

    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-443705188...

    Note: Scientology doesn't have anything against Psychology or Neurology. Also the mere awareness that you are a spiritual being and not a body makes you better person.

    9. Scientology is a force for good in society. Scientologist fights Psychiatry, the pharmaceutical companies, criminality, http://www.criminon.org and drug addiction. http://www.narconon.org Also Scientology fought and won against the FDA and the IRS. And Scientologist initiated the social reform group "Youth for Human Rights" http://www.youthforhumanrights.org and the movement "Say no to drugs and yes to life". http://www.notodrugs-yestolife.org

    Scientologist are some of the more intelligent, able and successful people in this planet. Including Jenna Elfman, Kelly Preston, John Travolta, Priscilla Presley, Sofia Milos and Leah Remini. Even Danny Masterson from the that's That '70s Show is a Scientologist.

    10. Scientology and aliens. The story of Xenu is just a fable like the story of "Jonah in the Whale" in the bible. Fables are not intended to be taken seriously. The story of Xenu doesn't have any significance on Scientology beliefs.

    11. Scientology is so advance and so different that people can't understand it. People think that they know everything there is to know about life. And when they see Scientology they jump to conclusions when in reality they don't have a clue what are they talking about. The reality is that man attacks what he can't understand.

    Anti-Scientology propaganda is just that, propaganda. It is false, bias and untrue. If you wanna know about the lies in this propaganda machine see my blog: http://www.myspace.com/129727315

    References

    http://www.chaplaincare.navy.mil/Scientology.htm

    http://www.religioustolerance.org/scientol.htm

    http://www.beliefnet.com/sem/scientology-religion....

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