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Anonymous asked in Society & CultureReligion & Spirituality · 1 decade ago

Okay there's one spirit same to all of us. But the holy spirit seem to have different identity from the?

regular spirit. It's like this holy spirit is imbued with God's aura. Can you explore this a little bit please?

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  • 1 decade ago
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    ACCORDING to the Trinity doctrine, the holy spirit is the third person of a Godhead, equal to the Father and to the Son. As the book Our Orthodox Christian Faith says: “The Holy Spirit is totally God.”

    In the Hebrew Scriptures, the word most frequently used for “spirit” is ru´ach, meaning “breath; wind; spirit.” In the Greek Scriptures, the word is pneu´ma, having a similar meaning. Do these words indicate that the holy spirit is part of a Trinity?

    THE Bible’s use of “holy spirit” indicates that it is a controlled force that Jehovah God uses to accomplish a variety of his purposes. To a certain extent, it can be likened to electricity, a force that can be adapted to perform a great variety of operations.

    At Genesis 1:2 the Bible states that “God’s active force [“spirit” (Hebrew, ru´ach)] was moving to and fro over the surface of the waters.” Here, God’s spirit was his active force working to shape the earth.

    God uses his spirit to enlighten those who serve him. David prayed: “Teach me to do your will, for you are my God. Your spirit [ru´ach] is good; may it lead me in the land of uprightness.” (Psalm 143:10) When 70 capable men were appointed to help Moses, God said to him: “I shall have to take away some of the spirit [ru´ach] that is upon you and place it upon them.”—Numbers 11:17.

    Bible prophecy was recorded when men of God were “borne along by holy spirit [Greek, from pneu´ma].” (2 Peter 1:20, 21) In this way the Bible was “inspired of God,” the Greek word for which is The·o´pneu·stos, meaning “God-breathed.” (2 Timothy 3:16) And holy spirit guided certain people to see visions or to have prophetic dreams.—2 Samuel 23:2; Joel 2:28, 29; Luke 1:67; Acts 1:16; 2:32, 33.

    The holy spirit impelled Jesus to go into the wilderness after his baptism. (Mark 1:12) The spirit was like a fire within God’s servants, causing them to be energized by that force. And it enabled them to speak out boldly and courageously.—Micah 3:8; Acts 7:55-60; 18:25; Romans 12:11; 1 Thessalonians 5:19.

    By his spirit, God carries out his judgments on men and nations. (Isaiah 30:27, 28; 59:18, 19) And God’s spirit can reach everywhere, acting for people or against them.—Psalm 139:7-12.

    GOD’S spirit can also supply “power beyond what is normal” to those who serve him. (2 Corinthians 4:7) This enables them to endure trials of faith or to do things they could not otherwise do.

    For example, regarding Samson, Judges 14:6 relates: “The spirit of Yahweh seized on him, and though he had no weapon in his hand he tore the lion in pieces.” (JB) Did a divine person actually enter or seize Samson, manipulating his body to do what he did? No, it was really “the power of the LORD [that] made Samson strong.”—TEV.

    The Bible says that when Jesus was baptized, holy spirit came down upon him appearing like a dove, not like a human form. (Mark 1:10) This active force of God enabled Jesus to heal the sick and raise the dead. As Luke 5:17 says: “The Power of the Lord [God] was behind his [Jesus’] works of healing.”—JB.

    God’s spirit also empowered the disciples of Jesus to do miraculous things. Acts 2:1-4 relates that the disciples were assembled together at Pentecost when “suddenly there occurred from heaven a noise just like that of a rushing stiff breeze, . . . and they all became filled with holy spirit and started to speak with different tongues, just as the spirit was granting them to make utterance.”

    So the holy spirit gave Jesus and other servants of God the power to do what humans ordinarily could not do.

    ARE there not, however, Bible verses that speak of the holy spirit in personal terms? Yes, but note what Catholic theologian Edmund Fortman says about this in The Triune God: “Although this spirit is often described in personal terms, it seems quite clear that the sacred writers [of the Hebrew Scriptures] never conceived or presented this spirit as a distinct person.”

    In the Scriptures it is not unusual for something to be personified. Wisdom is said to have children. (Luke 7:35) Sin and death are called kings. (Romans 5:14, 21) At Genesis 4:7 The New English Bible (NE) says: “Sin is a demon crouching at the door,” personifying sin as a wicked spirit crouching at Cain’s door. But, of course, sin is not a spirit person; nor does personifying the holy spirit make it a spirit person.

    Similarly, at 1 John 5:6-8 (NE) not only the spirit but also “the water, and the blood” are said to be “witnesses.” But water and blood are obviously not persons, and neither is the holy spirit a person.

    In harmony with this is the Bible’s general usage of “holy spirit” in an impersonal way, such as paralleling it with water and fire. (Matthew 3:11; Mark 1:8) People are urged to become filled with holy spirit instead of with wine. (Ephesians 5:18) They are spoken of as being filled with holy spirit in the same way they are filled with such qualities as wisdom, faith, and joy. (Acts 6:3; 11:24; 13:52) And at 2 Corinthians 6:6 holy spirit is included among a number of qualities. Such expressions would not be so common if the holy spirit were actually a person.

    Then, too, while some Bible texts say that the spirit speaks, other texts show that this was actually done through humans or angels. (Matthew 10:19, 20; Acts 4:24, 25; 28:25; Hebrews 2:2) The action of the spirit in such instances is like that of radio waves transmitting messages from one person to another far away.

    At Matthew 28:19 reference is made to “the name . . . of the holy spirit.” But the word “name” does not always mean a personal name, either in Greek or in English. When we say “in the name of the law,” we are not referring to a person. We mean that which the law stands for, its authority. Robertson’s Word Pictures in the New Testament says: “The use of name (onoma) here is a common one in the Septuagint and the papyri for power or authority.” So baptism ‘in the name of the holy spirit’ recognizes the authority of the spirit, that it is from God and functions by divine will.

    JESUS spoke of the holy spirit as a “helper,” and he said it would teach, guide, and speak. (John 14:16, 26; 16:13) The Greek word he used for helper (pa·ra´kle·tos) is in the masculine gender. So when Jesus referred to what the helper would do, he used masculine personal pronouns. (John 16:7, 8) On the other hand, when the neuter Greek word for spirit (pneu´ma) is used, the neuter pronoun “it” is properly employed.

    Most Trinitarian translators hide this fact, as the Catholic New American Bible admits regarding John 14:17: “The Greek word for ‘Spirit’ is neuter, and while we use personal pronouns in English (‘he,’ ‘his,’ ‘him’), most Greek MSS [manuscripts] employ ‘it.’”

    So when the Bible uses masculine personal pronouns in connection with pa·ra´kle·tos at John 16:7, 8, it is conforming to rules of grammar, not expressing a doctrine.

    VARIOUS sources acknowledge that the Bible does not support the idea that the holy spirit is the third person of a Trinity. For example:

    The Catholic Encyclopedia: “Nowhere in the Old Testament do we find any clear indication of a Third Person.”

    Catholic theologian Fortman: “The Jews never regarded the spirit as a person; nor is there any solid evidence that any Old Testament writer held this view. . . . The Holy Spirit is usually presented in the Synoptics [Gospels] and in Acts as a divine force or power.”

    The New Catholic Encyclopedia: “The O[ld] T[estament] clearly does not envisage God’s spirit as a person . . . God’s spirit is simply God’s power. If it is sometimes represented as being distinct from God, it is because the breath of Yahweh acts exteriorly.” It also says: “The majority of N[ew] T[estament] texts reveal God’s spirit as something, not someone; this is especially seen in the parallelism between the spirit and the power of God.”—Italics ours.

    A Catholic Dictionary: “On the whole, the New Testament, like the Old, speaks of the spirit as a divine energy or power.”

    Hence, neither the Jews nor the early Christians viewed the holy spirit as part of a Trinity. That teaching came centuries later. As A Catholic Dictionary notes: “The third Person was asserted at a Council of Alexandria in 362 . . . and finally by the Council of Constantinople of 381”—some three and a half centuries after holy spirit filled the disciples at Pentecost!

    No, the holy spirit is not a person and it is not part of a Trinity. The holy spirit is God’s active force that he uses to accomplish his will. It is not equal to God but is always at his disposition and subordinate to him.

    Source(s): Should You Believe in the Trinity?
  • 1 decade ago

    Good question. I rated it as such.

    I will give my opinion only and it will not agree with those who believe in the trinity because I do not. You see I am a "NO" and a "NO" don't believe anything that is not constantly consistent with the Bible words and all creation OK

    In my view MyGod breathed into humankind the breath of life and thus placed within humankind a spirit that is the source of the living being and the center of what humankind calls life. It is called such because it allows the dust from which all humankind are made of to be animated and to be used by this breath [note - the word translated as breath is also seen as being wind or spirit --- ---you can find this in Genesis 2:7 in the bible]

    Now there is a spirit from My God which is called the Holy Spirit which is the Counselor or the gift from My God when an individual does accept the pure truth that My God is God and that My God does provide a way for humankind to be changed to the defined living as defined by My God, much greater living than is defined as living by humankind. Most do see this act in this acceptence as that born again or born from above change that is done by My God when one does recognize My God as being God Most High or God Almighty, the Father of Jesus.

    Yes in answer to what you are asking if I do understand it correctly there are two spirits. One is the spirit of humankind and the other is the Holy Spirit. Likewise not to confuse there are two again spirits , In the Old Testament the Spirit of God and In the new Testament the Holy Spirit and the Spirit of God. Only see the Holy Spirit when the Bible uses the words Holy Spirit OK.

    They like all spirits are sourced in My God in my view for a "NO" sees that everything is sourced in Their God alone for its purpose. However do not confuse that sourced in God by immediately seeing Spirit of God as being all the Spirits. Use the Spirit of God only when the Bible does use it that way for the little but powerful word "of" designated source but in its use it may be direct source or indirect source. Do not be confused.

    In Genesis 1, verse 2 it is talking of the Spirit of God but it is not called the Holy Spirit. So do not assume it is the Holy Spirit. Just see it as the Spirit of God. The Holy Spirit is not discussed until the New covenent is given and put in place with the coming of Jesus OK. Thisis in the New Testament only.

    That is not saying that the Spirit of God is not Holy but it is saying the Spirit of God is not the same Spirit mentioned in the New testament and too many miss that item and thus come up with the crazy trinity doctrine in my view.

    Please I did say this is my view and you can have your own. That is your option OK I only ask you to give it some thoiught and then let your God guide you to your views OK

    Now do smile and have a good day

    Source(s): Just a "NO" expressing his view at cjkeysjr@yahoo.com/ph The only "NO" I Know.
  • 1 decade ago

    The Holy Spirit is more than "imbued with God's aura." The Holy Spirit is God. God is a trinity of Persons, Father, Son and Holy Spirit. So the very essence of God is a relationship, a community.

  • 1 decade ago

    The Holy Spirit is God.He is the 3rd person of the trinity,Father,Son and Holy Spirit.One God ,Three persons,it's like 1x1x1=1 God not like 1+1+1= 3 separate Gods.

    Example : In the 'Acts of the Apostles' chp.5, this guy Ananias tells Peter he sold a possession for so much and gave All the money to the church.Peter says,You didn't have to lie and say you gave it all,when you only gave part of it ,it was your money to do what you like.You lied to the Holy Spirit.Why have you conceived this thing?You haven't lied to man but to God.

    Maybe that helps?

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  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    I'm not sure if I quite understand the question, so I'm not sure that I'm answering it. We each have our own spirit which is made in the image of God. The Bible says God is spirit, so our spirit is the part of us created in His image. Then there is the Trinity which is composed of the Father (God), Jesus (God's only begotten Son) and the Holy Spirit. In the Old Testament people dealt with God. In the New Testament Jesus came and people saw Him in the flesh. When Jesus talked about being crucified and joining His Father in heaven He told His disciples that after He ascended God would send the Comforter or Holy Spirit to be with us. The Holy Spirit is the part of God that dwells with us here on earth today. He actually dwells in each of us who are filled with Him.

  • 1 decade ago

    John 14:16-17 describes the promise of the Holy Spirit. "I will ask the Father, and He will give you another Helper to be with you forever - the Spirit of the truth. The world cannot accept him, because it does not see him or know him. But you know him because he lives with you and he will be in you." It later states that the Helper is the Holy Spirit whom the Father sent in the name of Jesus (14:26). The Holy Spirit is what guides us to the truth when we accept Jesus as our Savior.

  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    Each human is comprised of body, soul and spirit. The Holy Spirit is One Person of the holy Trinity. He interacts with our spirit when we are believers, teaching us (see 1 Corinthians 2:13).

  • 4 years ago

    that's genuinely the King James version of the Bible which makes use of the time period “Holy Ghost.” It takes position ninety circumstances interior the KJV. The time period “Holy Spirit” takes position 7 circumstances interior the KJV. there is not any clean reason as to why the KJV translators used Ghost in maximum places and then Spirit in some. the exact same Greek and Hebrew words are translated "ghost" and "spirit" interior the KJV in distinct occurrences of the words. by making use of "ghost," the KJV translators did not intend to speak the idea of "the spirit of a deceased human being." In 1611, at the same time as the KJV changed into initially translated, the information "ghost" by and massive talked about "an immaterial being."

  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    Depends on how you read the bible. Still appears to be 3 separate gods, Jesus certainly is not God the father, according to the bible god spoke to jesus when he was baptised, so how can they be the same person? Never made a lot of sense to me, how people interpret the bible. Guess that is why I read everything myself, and made my own judgements. Then I decided it was all fiction and became an athiest.

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