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Was Christmas moved in order to displace solstice festivals?

Someone told me long ago that Christian church leaders moved Christmas from one date to the current date in order to displace pagan solstice festivals; I've heard similar stuff regarding Easter. Is this true? Please provide details and/or references.

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  • 1 decade ago
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    VALENTINE'S DAY

    How Christmas came about. Is it related to Valentine's?

    VALENTINE'S (CUPID)

    CENTURIES BEFORE CHRIST, THE PAGAN ROMANS CELEBRATED FEBRUARY 15 & THE EVENING OF FEBRUARY 14 AS AN IDOLATROUS & SENSUOUS FESTIVAL IN HONOR OF LUPERCUS, THE "HUNTER OF WOLVES". THE ROMANS CALLED THE FESTIVAL "LUPERCALIA"; CUSTOM OF EXCHANGING VALENTINES & OTHER TRADITIONS TO HONOR LUPERCUS, THE "HUNTER OF WOLVES". THE ROMANS CALLED THE FESTIVAL "LUPERCALIA"; CUSTOM OF EXCHANGING VALENTINES AND OTHER TRADITIONS IN HONOR OF LUPERCUS (THE DEIFIED HERO-HUNTER OF ROME). IT WAS ALSO BONDED ANCIENTLY WITH THE PAGAN PRACTICE OF TEENAGERS "GOING STEADY" THAT USUALLY LED TO FORNICATION. TODAY, "GOING STEADY" IS A REBIRTH OF AN OLD CUSTOM THAT CAME FROM THE TOMAN FESTIVAL LUPERCALIA THAT WAS CELEBRATED IN FEBRUARY BY DRAWING YOUNG WOMEN'S NAMES OUT OF A BOX BY MEN AS CHANCE DIRECTED.-- ENCYCLOPEDIA AMERICANA, ARTICLE, "ST. VALENTINE'S DAY."

    WHEN CONSTANTINE MADE CHRISTIANITY THE OFFICIAL RELIGION OF THE ROMAN EMPIRE THERE WAS SOME TALK IN CHURCH CIRCLES OF DISGARDING THIS PAGAN FREE-FOR-ALL. BUT THE ROMAN CITIZENS WOULDN'T HEAR OF IT! SO IT WAS AGREED THAT THE HOLIDAY WOULD CONTINUE AS IT WAS, EXCEPT FOR THE MORE GROSLY SENSUAL OBSERVANCES. IT WAS NOT UNTIL THE REIGN OF POPE GELASIUS THAT THE HOLIDAY BECAME A "CHRISTIAN CUSTOM." AS FAR BACK AS 496, POPE GELASIUS CHANGED LUPERCALIA ON FEBRUARY 15 TO ST. VALENTINE'S ON FEBRUARY 14."--("CUSTOMS AND HOLIDAYS AROUND THE WORLD", PG.172 BY LAVINIA DOBLER)(BY HERMAN L. HOEH; THE PLAIN TRUTH;FEBRUARY 1966).

    LUPERCUS BORNE THE NAME VALENTINE AMONG THE HEATHEN ROMANS. THE GREEKS CALLED HIM "PAN"; THE SEMITES "BAAL" ACCORDING TO THE CLASSICAL DICTIONARIES". IN THE BIBLE; "BAAL" IS MENTIONED OFTEN; ANOTHER NAME FOR HIM IS CALLED "NIMROD, "THE MIGHTY HUNTER" (GENESIS 10:9). ANOTHER NAME FOR NIMROD WAS "SANCTUS" OR "SANTA", MEANING "SAINT", COMMON TITLE FOR A HERO-GOD. NIMROD KNOWN AS BAAL OR sun god OF ANCIENT PAGANS WAS BORN AT THE WINTER SOLSTICE. IN ANCIENT TIMES THE SOLSTICE OCCURED ON JANUARY 6; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/epiphany

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    THIS WAS HIS BIRTHDAY UNTIL THE SOLSTICE CHANGED & THEN IT WAS CELEBRATED ON DECEMBER 25. "IT WAS THE CUSTOM OF ANTIQUITY FOR THE MOTHER OF A MALE CHILD TO PRESENT HERSELF FOR PURIFICATION ON THE 14TH DAY AFTER THE DAY OF BIRTH. THE 14TH DAY AFTER JAN.6--NIMROD'S ORIGINAL BIRTHDATE---TAKES US TO FEB.15, THE CELEBRATION OF WHICH BEGAN ON THE EVENING OF FEB.14--THE LUPERCALIA OR ST. VALENTINE'S DAY." --(HERMAN L. HOEH) NIMROD'S OTHER NAME WAS "CUPID" WHICH MEANS "DESIRE"---ENCYCLOPEDIA BRITANNICA", ART., "CUPID".

    Encyclopedia Americana, article, "St. Valentine's Day."

    Encyclopedia Britannica, art., "cupid."

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    http://www.biblestudy.org/basicart/valentin.html

    http://home.swbell.net/kelkay/valentines

    http://home.sprynet.com/~pabco/stvalen.htm

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    CHRISTMAS

    Note: ECCLES.7:1 = "A good name is better than precious ointment; and the day of death than the day of one's birth."

    CHRISTMAS

    Christmas isn't Jesus's birthdate; it was the birthday of the sun god. Scripture doesn't mention Jesus's birthdate or any christians celebrating His Birthday. The only birthday mentioned besides Pharoah is the heathen king Herod. "Christmas" means "mass of Christ"; the celebration coexisted in Rome before there was any in Jerusalem. The early Roman Church however did establish a pagan festival that (Jer.10) coexisted with Jesus's Birth and that was the birthday of the sun god. (Encyclopaedia Britannica, 11th ed., article: "Christmas"). The Catholic sources admit that Christmas didn't co-exist with the earliest festivals. Jesus wasn't born Christmas; even scripture makes this evident. "On the night of Jesus's birth, the shepherd's were still keeping watch over their flocks." (Luke 2:8). The rainy season in Ancient Israel began after the Feast of Tabernacles which generally is early October. In November, it would be cool and wet; the flocks from the pasture had already been brought and kept in winter quarters by the shepherds. This tells us the shepherds were no longer in the fields at night. Another peice of evidence is overlooked is in Luke 1:35-36; it tells us John the Baptist was born to Mary's cousin Elizabeth six months before Jesus. And as we look further in verse 5-17, we see Zacharias an elderly priest burning incense on the altar and then an angel appearing to him and telling him that he and his wife would have a son to prepare Christ's Way. We know however when this announcement was made by the angel because of Zacharias was "of the course of Abijah" Please look at 1Chron.24:1-19; it tells us that King David divided these priests into 24 "courses" that served in the temple by rotation. The Course of Abijah would be the 8th of the 24 courses which usually would occur around the end of May. Pentecost came the week after the 8th course served and he had to serve all 24 courses during the three festival seasons. So Zacharias came home approximately after the first week of June; in which John the Baptist was conceived around mid-June and 9 months later would be his birth. John Baptist's birth came around mid-March while Jesus's was around mid-September. Also notice every year people claim 3 wise men seen Jesus in a stable; is this really true? The Bible nowhere states "3 wise men" or "that the wise men visited Jesus in a stable". Read for yourself: (Matt.2:11); these Magi came from the east beyond the Euphrates River which in the 1st century was called the Parthian Empire (the eastern border of the Roman Empire). Several weeks after Jesus's birth, the Magi arrived in Jerusalem, the king's palace searching for Jesus. The "star" in the east led them to take their trip to Judea. After hearing about the timing of the "star's appearance" from the Magi; King Herod ordered the slaughter of all children two years and younger(Matt.2:16). When Jesus was 40 days old: His parents presented him in the temple (Luke 2:22)(Lev.12:2-4). After the Magi came, the family fled to Egypt. {Jesus six weeks old.}

    WHEN WAS JESUS'S BIRTH?

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    Are these holidays dangerous to people?

    http://www.lcg.org/cgi-bin/tw/magazine/tw-mag.cgi?...

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    EASTER NOT FOUND IN THE BIBLE

    "The English word 'Easter' came from the Anglo-Saxon Eastre or Estera, a Teutonic goddess to whom sacrifice was offered in April, so the name was transferred to the Pashal Feast. The word does not properly occur in Scripture although the AV (King James Translation) has it in ACTS 12:4 where it stands for 'Passover' as it is rightly rendered in RV (Revised Version). There is no trace of Easter celebration in the New Testament..." (INTERNATIONAL STANDARD BIBLE ENCYCLOPEDIA VOL.2, P.889). The word 'Easter' has confused some but the word in the original form is "Pascha" meaning "Passover". It occurs 29 times in the New Testament & everytime it's translated Passover except in Acts 12:4. If you read carefully (ACTS 12:1-4); it says that Herod killed James and was trying to kill Peter in an effort to "vex the church"(Please the Jews). Then in VERSE 3 "were the days of unleavened bread"; see LEV.23. He put him in prison intending to try him "after Easter" (KJV). Now if Herod was trying to "please the Jews" & "vex the church" Why would he have delayed the trial until after 'Easter?'" If this was a "christian holy day", especially one in honoring Christ's resurrection, he would surely not be pleasing the Jews, Wouldn't it be more pleasing to the Jews to vex the church by killing one of it's Apostles on it's own "holy-day," would it not?

    ORIGIN OF EASTER: WHERE DID IT COME FROM?

    Easter was never observed by the Apostles of Christ or Christ's Religion. "The name 'Easter' comes to us from the mythlogical writings of the Ancient Teucrians (who lived 1200BC along the southern coast of Palestine) where it's known as 'Ostern'" BY GROVER STEVENS. "The name 'Easter' is merely the slightly changed English spelling of the name of the ancient Assyrian and Babylonian idol goddess, Ishtar (pronounced eesh-tar)." WEBSTER'S DICTIONARY says "Easter is from the pre-historic name of a pagan spring festival." THE OXFORD DICTIONARY OF ENGLISH ETYMOLOGY says, "Easter is derived from the name of goddess whose feast was celebrated at the vernal equinox." THE SCHOLARY NEW SCHAFF-HERZOG RELIGIOUS ENCYCLOPEDIA says, "This goddess is also widely known as Astarte...The cult originated in Babylonia and spread to Assyria, Mesopotamia, Syria & Palestine, then through the Phoenicians to all of the Meditteranean peoples...Ishtar was in fact primarily and chiefly identified as Venus, the most beautiful of celestial objects & from the terrestrial side, the primarily motive of the worship of Ishtar was the impulse to deify sensuous and sensuality." ALEXANDER HISLOP SAYS IN THE TWO BABYLONS (P.103), "Easter bears its Chaldean origin on its forehead. Easter is nothing else than Asarte, one of the titles of Beltis, the queen of heaven..."

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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ishtar

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    The Easter Bunny and eggs deal with fertility of the goddess Ishtar. "Eggs, the obvious symbols of fertility and reproduction, were used in ancient fertility rites. They were painted with various magickal symbols and then cast into fires or buried in the earth as offerings to the Goddess. In certain parts of the world, Spring Equinox eggs were painted yellow or gold (sacred solar colors) and used in rituals to honor the Sun God. Easter, like every other Christian religious holiday is rich with an abundance of Pagan overtones, customs and traditions such as Easter eggs and Easter bunny. Eggs, as previously discussed were ancient fertility symbols and offerings to the Goddess of the Pagans and Witches in both western and eastern cultures, including the Goddess Ostara, whose escort was a rabbit. "

    http://www.nobleknights.com/~eagle1/eostre1.htm

    Easter Bunny Origination

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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Easter_Bunny

    EASTER EGGS

    Note: these sites tell where Easter Eggs came from.

    http://www.nobleknights.com/~eagle1/eostre1.htm

    http://www.rightdivision.com/html/easter_pagan_inf...

    VERSES-- DEUT.4:19,28-31; 11:26-28; 17:3 & GAL.4:8-10.

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    EXODUS 20:3 = "Thou shalt not have other gods before me." It tells us in verse 5 = "not to bow to them nor serve them".

    Here are the texts of gods that should not be worshipped:

    EXOD.20:23; 32:3,4,8-10,19-23,30

    DEUT.4:19,28-31; 11:26-28; 17:3

    JER.10

    EZEK.8:13-18

    DAN. 3:1-18 (tried to make Daniel's friends to bow to the image, but they didn't)

    New Testament Texts:

    GAL.4:8-10 (pagan feasts are: New Year's, Valentine's-Cupid, Patrick's Day, Easter-Ishtar, Halloween, Christmas, Sunday-sun{from sunset Sat. to sunset Sunday = GEN.1:5), Monday-moon-{worship after sunset Sunday which would be Sunday evening(Sun.even to Mon.even)= considered to be Monday according to GEN.1:8}. Birthdays come from pagan origin too. = (only 2 birthdays are mentioned in Bible; they are: Pharoah and King Herod)

    You can find most of things in sources like encyclopedias, history, etc. that tell you it's pagan or that it comes from pagan origin.

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    MITHRAS (goddess of light)

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    HORUS (sun god)

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    Saturnalia (Mid-December; another name for Nimrod or Tammuz)

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  • 1 decade ago

    When Christianity became the state religion of the Roman Empire during the 4th century AD, a pagan festival called Saturnalia was celebrated during the winter solstice. In order to convert the Pagans to Christianity, the Christians could have adopted this winter solstice festival to continue but celebrated instead the birth of Jesus Christ.

    It could have happened to Easter also when the crucifixion and death of Jesus and His resurrection are observed. The Norse or Celtic celebration of Oester could have been adopted, its name only though but not the celebration itself. We know that based on the Bible, the death of Jesus must have occurred around the Passover time. Since the Jewish Passover is now held around the vernal equinox, this was the time when the Christian Easter is also held.

    The actual birth date of Jesus is May 23, just a few days from now. This date was revealed by a spirit, a holy spirit, who we (plural) talk to. I first heard this date in 1983 but only checked it when we connected to the Internet in 1999. The first date that I checked was the crucifixion date that the spirit revealed as August 17. After four years (1999-2003), I found it to be correct and true. The year was 1 BC. Then from 2004-2006, I checked if May 23 is correct, and I found it correct and true as well. The year was 33 BC. Results of these studies can be found in the websites below. The dates were revealed by THE Holy Spirit Himself. Did you know that the Holy Spirit is Jesus Christ Himself?

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  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    When Christians came to power in Rome a holiday celebrating Mithras as the Sun God Sol Invictus had been officially celebrated for a century or so, and unofficially before that. Many of the elements that we associate with Christmas come from this.

    The Christians just co-opted the popular holiday which was calculated by the winter solstice using the Julian calendar, December 25th.

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  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    Christmas was created as a holiday several centuies into the Common Era, and was promoted to replace numerous winter solstice celebrations.

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  • 1 decade ago

    Yes, it's true.If you take the Bible and it's history to the letter the only real and true religious holiday is Passover. Jesus is thought to be born in the spring or summer as the shephards wouldn't have been in the fields in December. Judeo-Christians decided to meld religions and beliefs to gain popularity and numbers...

    Bunnies and eggs do symbolize fertility...right?

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  • zula
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    4 years ago

    There is no anti Christmas movement. That sounds like Bill O'Reilly dribble. Besides that, the corporations would never make it. To much money is spent during this "religious" time of the year. And we all know it is the corporations that set the agenda now.

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  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    Christianity stole the holiday from fellow pagan traditions - Mithra's followers originally claimed Dec. 25 for themselves.

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  • 1 decade ago

    Yes, true. As with Easter, which was once the celebration of the spring equinox and the Goddess Oeastra (sound familiar?)

    Source(s): References: My vast storehouse of knowledge - this is stuff I learned about YEARS AGO dude - I cant remember WHERE I learned it! Sheesh!
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  • 1 decade ago

    No, they moved it because those Santa suits are way too hot to wear in the summer.

    Source(s): Common knowledge. I'm surprised nobody else knew this.
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  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    Yes, obviously, since shepherds would not be "abiding in the fields" in winter.

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  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    Yes. I think it was Pope Gregory XVI.

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