Jehovah's Witnesses: Do you take Psalms 37:29 and Psalms 104:5 to mean that the earth will last forever?

"What Does the Bible Really Teach? What Is God’s Purpose for the Earth? What kind of people did God want to live on the earth? And for how long did he want them to live here? The Bible answers: “The righteous themselves will possess the earth, and they will reside forever upon it.”—Psalm... show more "What Does the Bible Really Teach? What Is God’s Purpose for the Earth?

What kind of people did God want to live on the earth? And for how long did he want them to live here? The Bible answers: “The righteous themselves will possess the earth, and they will reside forever upon it.”—Psalm 37:29"


The words translated as "forever" in these scriptures are "ad" and "olam".

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These words do not necessarily mean "forever" in the absolute sense. They can also mean for an extreme length of time or for as long as something endures.

(Compare Exodus 21:6; 2 Kings 5:27; 1 Chronicles 28:4; 1 Chronicles 23:13; Jonah 2:6)

Do Jehovah's Witnesses believe that they will literally live "forever" on earth in the absolute sense, or (as the word is often applied in scripture), only as long as the earth endures?
Update: Thank you for your answers. How will Jehovah's Witnesses continue living on the earth once the sun becomes a red giant, burns up the earth, then expands far enough to swallow it?
Update 2: "Jehovah's Witnesses believe that they will literally live forever on earth in the absolute sense."

Please provide evidence for the accuracy of your beliefs. Why do you interpret these scriptures to mean in the absolute sense? Thank you.
Update 3: "Yes. The Bible teaches that those who keep their integrity to God will live forever on Earth." Where in the Bible does it teach that they will live forever on earth in the absolute sense, not merely for as long as the earth endures, as possibly implied by the meaning of the words "ad" and "olam" used in Psalms... show more "Yes. The Bible teaches that those who keep their integrity to God will live forever on Earth."

Where in the Bible does it teach that they will live forever on earth in the absolute sense, not merely for as long as the earth endures, as possibly implied by the meaning of the words "ad" and "olam" used in Psalms 37:29 and Psalms 104:5?
Update 4: "Forever on earth. God created Adam and Eve to live forever on the paradise earth. He did not give up on that plan." Where in the Bible does it say that God created Adam and Eve to live on the earth "forever" in the absolute sense? The word used at Genesis 3:22 for instance, translated in the NWT as "time... show more "Forever on earth. God created Adam and Eve to live forever on the paradise earth. He did not give up on that plan."

Where in the Bible does it say that God created Adam and Eve to live on the earth "forever" in the absolute sense?

The word used at Genesis 3:22 for instance, translated in the NWT as "time indefinite" and other translations as "forever", is again "olam".

The same word is used at Exodus 21:6; 2 Kings 5:27; 1 Chronicles 28:4; 1 Chronicles 23:13 and Jonah 2:6, where it does not mean FOREVER.
Update 5: “Happy are the mild-tempered ones, since they will inherit the earth. Why would they inherit the earth if they were not going to live there?"

The issue is not whether they will inherit the earth and live there, but how long they will live there.
Update 6: "To answer your question yes, that is God's promise." Is it? Or is it misinterpretation of scripture due to lack of understanding it? "If forever is only as long as the earth endures, it won't be forever unless God makes the earth endure forever." For as long as the earth endures will be "forever" in the... show more "To answer your question yes, that is God's promise."

Is it? Or is it misinterpretation of scripture due to lack of understanding it?

"If forever is only as long as the earth endures, it won't be forever unless God makes the earth endure forever."

For as long as the earth endures will be "forever" in the scriptural sense.
Update 7: just a man: "If not, well it's a big universe, why worry about that, when we should be focused on our pleasing him right now."

I agree, but it is delusional to go around believing and telling others that you will live FOREVER on earth, if that is not true.
Update 8: B-Man: All those points have already been covered, and are, as yet, unanswered. I will cut&paste my previous answers as you evidently missed them. "There's nothing delusional about teaching people what the Bible teaches, which is that people WILL be living forever on the earth." "Is it? Or is it misinterpretation... show more B-Man: All those points have already been covered, and are, as yet, unanswered. I will cut&paste my previous answers as you evidently missed them.

"There's nothing delusional about teaching people what the Bible teaches, which is that people WILL be living forever on the earth."

"Is it? Or is it misinterpretation of scripture due to lack of understanding it?"

"It was God's intention from the start for humans, and it remains his purpose."

"Where in the Bible does it say that God created Adam and Eve to live on the earth "forever" in the absolute sense?"

The word used at Genesis 3:22 for instance, translated in the NWT as "time indefinite" and other translations as "forever", is again "olam".

The same word is used at Exodus 21:6; 2 Kings 5:27; 1 Chronicles 28:4; 1 Chronicles 23:13 and Jonah 2:6, where it does not mean FOREVER."

"The earth was made to be inhabited.."

"The issue is not whether they will inherit the earth and live there, but how long they will live there."

".. th
Update 9: ".. the earth will be here forever, hence humans WILL inhabit the earth forever." That's called circular reasoning. First you have to provide evidence that the earth will be here FOREVER, not merely for as long as it endures, which, according to scientific fact, and as indicated by the scriptures, will not be... show more ".. the earth will be here forever, hence humans WILL inhabit the earth forever."

That's called circular reasoning. First you have to provide evidence that the earth will be here FOREVER, not merely for as long as it endures, which, according to scientific fact, and as indicated by the scriptures, will not be forever in the absolute sense.
Update 10: A Zebra Striking: "Evidence that the earth will be forever, lol??? Consider:" Isaiah 45:18 ".. the Former of the earth and the Maker of it, He the One who firmly established it (1), who did not create it simply for nothing, who formed it even to be inhabited..(2)" 1. "Firmly established" (Hebrew-kun) does not... show more A Zebra Striking: "Evidence that the earth will be forever, lol??? Consider:"

Isaiah 45:18 ".. the Former of the earth and the Maker of it, He the One who firmly established it (1), who did not create it simply for nothing, who formed it even to be inhabited..(2)"

1. "Firmly established" (Hebrew-kun) does not carry the necessary sense of eternitality, in either English or Hebrew.

2. The issue is not whether the earth will be inhabited, but how long it will be inhabited for.

Eccl 1:4 "A generation is going, and a generation is coming; but the earth is standing even to time indefinite."

The word rendered "time indefinite" by the NWT at Eccl 1:4 is again "olam". It does not carry the necessary meaning of "forever" in the absolute sense. (Compare Exodus 21:6; 2 Kings 5:27; 1 Chronicles 28:4; 1 Chronicles 23:13; Jonah 2:6)
Update 11: In-de-cisive: “Ecclesiastes 1:4 A generation is going, and a generation is coming; but the earth is standing even to time indefinite.” The word rendered "time indefinite" by the NWT at Eccl 1:4 is again "olam". It does not carry the necessary meaning of "forever" in the absolute sense. (Compare Exodus 21:6; 2... show more In-de-cisive: “Ecclesiastes 1:4 A generation is going, and a generation is coming; but the earth is standing even to time indefinite.”

The word rendered "time indefinite" by the NWT at Eccl 1:4 is again "olam". It does not carry the necessary meaning of "forever" in the absolute sense. (Compare Exodus 21:6; 2 Kings 5:27; 1 Chronicles 28:4; 1 Chronicles 23:13; Jonah 2:6)

You are confirming my point and contradicting your own doctrine with your attempted interpretation of Daniel 2:44. The Messianic Kingdom does not literally stand to times infinite. It stands for a mere 1,000 years.

See “since Christ hands over the kingdom to his God and Father, in what sense is his Kingdom “everlasting”..? Page 170 Insight Vol.2

“Well as you can see the earth will be here forever, so of course this is in the absolute sense that we will live forever on the earth, because psalms 37:29 is in harmony with the rest of the bible.”

No, I can not see. The Bible does not explicitly state that the earth will
Update 12: be here forever in the absolute sense, nor that anyone will live forever on the earth, in the absolute sense. Psalm 37:29 was covered at the outset, as were other scriptures which use the terms "forever" and "to time indefinite" etc. See above, What is in harmony with the rest of the BIble is that that the use of... show more be here forever in the absolute sense, nor that anyone will live forever on the earth, in the absolute sense. Psalm 37:29 was covered at the outset, as were other scriptures which use the terms "forever" and "to time indefinite" etc. See above,

What is in harmony with the rest of the BIble is that that the use of "forever" at Psalms 37:29 and Psalms 104:5 should be in a temporal sense, as it in other scriptures which use the same Hebrew words, "ad" and "olam".
Update 13: So far, I have seen nothing which indicates that anyone will live on earth "forever" in the absolute sense. Logical, scientific, and scriptural reasoning dictates that "forever" in these scriptures is meant merely in a temporal sense.
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