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  • Questions for ex members of the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society?

    What made you leave the "organization"?

    Did you come to an understanding of who Jesus really is?

    Did any Scriptures lead you to leave the "organization"?

    I ask this because I have family that is starting to have Bible studies with Jehovah's Witnesses and its in talking with JWs its a struggle. They look at every Scripture through the presupposition of Watchtower doctrine instead of letting the Word speak for itself.

    5 AnswersReligion & Spirituality8 years ago
  • Question for Bible readers Christians and in particular Jehovah's Witnesses!?

    In light of these two scriptures

    Genesis 19:24

    King James Version (KJV)

    24 Then the LORD rained upon Sodom and upon Gomorrah brimstone and fire from the LORD out of heaven;

    Amos 4:11

    King James Version (KJV)

    11 I have overthrown some of you, as God overthrew Sodom and Gomorrah, and ye were as a firebrand plucked out of the burning: yet have ye not returned unto me, saith the LORD.

    Genesis 19:25

    New World Translation NWT Jehovah's Witness Bible

    24Then Jehovah made it rain sulphur and fire from Jehovah, from the heavens, upon Sod´om and upon Go·mor´rah.

    Amos 4:11

    New World Translation NWT Jehovah's Witness Bible

    11“‘I caused an overthrow among YOU people, like God’s overthrow of Sod´om and Go·mor´rah. And YOU came to be like a log snatched out of [the] burning; but YOU did not come back to me,’ is the utterance of Jehovah.

    it appears to me to be 2 Jehovah's in Genesis 19:24. Then in Amos 4:11 there is someone called LORD (Jehovah) and someone He calls God.

    Me being a believer in the trinity I do not perceive this to be a trinity proof text, however it does seem to open the door for the possibility of at least 2 divine persons. Also while studying to see the Jehovah's witness response I came upon a page (that many other Jehovah's witnesses have copied and pasted onto their own web pages), that quotes Young's Critical Concise Commentary regarding Genesis 19:24 stating that what is meant is that the rain of fire and brimstone came from Jehovah, not that their are 2 Jehovah's. With that said I looked for an hour trying to view Young's Critical Concise Commentary online and I could not find it. I did see that it is out of production, but you can buy a copy on ebay and/or amazon. I also find it a little odd that a Jehovah's Witness would have his commentary and toss out any idea he (Young) would give to prove the trinity only to quote him where he says that a scripture does not prove the trinity.

    Also that same web page says that

    1 Kings 10:13

    King James Version (KJV)

    13 And king Solomon gave unto the queen of Sheba all her desire, whatsoever she asked, beside that which Solomon gave her of his royal bounty. So she turned and went to her own country, she and her servants.

    1 Kings 10:13

    New World Translation NWT Jehovah's Witness Bible

    13And King Sol´o·mon himself gave the queen of She´ba all her delight for which she asked, apart from what he gave her according to the openhandedness of King Sol´o·mon. After that she turned about and went to her own land, she together with her servants.

    gives a parallel example and that no trinitarian would say their are 2 Solomons, so why do they say there are 2 Jehovah's. But that is not a parallel to Genesis 19:24 because we know from reading the Bible that there is only one King Solomon. Yet by reading Genesis 18 and 19 we see that Jehovah was in some way, shape, or form talking, eating, and being seen of by Abraham. Please do not say it was the Angel Of The LORD because the phrase "Angel Of The LORD" appears 52 times in the Old Testament, 17 times in the books of the law, 6 times in Genesis, and 4 times in Genesis before Genesis 19. So I would think its a reasonable conclusion to come to that if Moses, (the writer of Genesis) believed it was the Angel Of The LORD instead of Jehovah himself he would have wrote it that way.

    Another theory given on this web page was that because some Bible versions translate Genesis 19:24 to Jehovah rained fire and brimstone from heaven that that is what was meant by the scripture. I would have to disagree in light of Amos 4:11 in which Jehovah says God overthrew Sodom and Gomorrah.

    With all that said I ask my questions

    HOW MANY JEHOVAH'S ARE THERE?

    AND

    IF JEHOVAH IS GOD THEN WHY DOES HE SAY GOD OVERTHREW SODOM AND GOMORRAH IN AMOS 4:11, WHEN GENESIS 19:24 SAYS JEHOVAH DID?

    4 AnswersReligion & Spirituality8 years ago
  • What are Jehovah's Witnesses taught about Elohim?

    Elohim is translated God and gods in the bible. I went to watchtower.org and search Elohim and got 2 articles explaining it as a name of God. Yet it did not explain that it is plural word of El, (another name of God). Now heres the issue if you look at Genesis 1:26 and understand that "God" is plural then you have a better understanding of words such as "us" and "our".

    Now we Trinitarians believe in 1 God in 3 persons. Not 3 Gods in 1.

    6 AnswersReligion & Spirituality10 years ago
  • Why is "spirit" replaced with "active force" in Genesis 1:2 in the new world translation?

    But nowhere else does the new world translation translate the hebrew word ruwach as "active force".

    If you translate a word from one language to another don't you have to be consistent? Or is this just another word that the watchtower mistranslates so that their doctrine can stand?

    The hebrew word there is ruwach and it is translated as spirit, wind, breath, side, mind, blast, vain, air, anger, cool, courage, in the King James Version but never as "active force".

    The funny thing is if you look it up and compare scripture for scripture from the new world translation to the King James Bible you will see we translate it the same except for there.

    11 AnswersReligion & Spirituality10 years ago
  • Were there any Jehovah's Witnesses before Charles Russell, not people in the Bible please?

    I asked this earlier but all I got was scripture, who taught Charles Russell or Rutherford the doctrine.

    13 AnswersReligion & Spirituality10 years ago
  • Are there any christians out there that just have a genuine love for God?

    Not people who just want to play church politics. Nor people who just go to church just to go. I'm talking about people who pray and read the word, which are most important, but people have a desire to win souls for Christ.

    3 AnswersReligion & Spirituality10 years ago
  • Were there Jehovah's Witnesses before Charles Russell?

    And if so where were they? Were they Seventh Day Adventist?

    12 AnswersReligion & Spirituality10 years ago
  • Why is that Jehovah's Witnesses want everyone they talk to, too have a open heart, yet they don't and won't?

    Every time I talk with jws they want me to sit there and listen but they totally ignore everything I say. Believe it or not trinitarians use scripture too. We should both be mature enough in our faiths to sit down and discuss scripture and come to our conclusion based on scripture. NOT WHAT WE LEARNED IN CHURCH FROM OUR PASTOR NOR WATCHTOWER PUBLICATIONS., right?

    20 AnswersReligion & Spirituality10 years ago
  • Jehovah Witnesses, is Jesus a legitimate God or one of the False God's Paul Mentions in Galatians?

    With answersing please don't tell me Jesus is a real legitimate god but not the God, because Isaiah 43:10 specifically says no god before or after me. Anybody in the bible that was given the title god (lowercase g) was not a real god, look it up you'll see.

    Only God is our Savior (Isa 43:11)

    Jesus is our Savior (Tit 2:13; 2 Pet 1:1)

    God is our only Rock (Isa 44:8, Ps 18:2, 94:22)

    Jesus is our Rock (1 Cor. 10:4)

    Only God can forgive sins (Luke 5:21)

    Jesus forgives sins (Luke 5:20)

    God is our owner (Isa. 54:5)

    Jesus is our only owner (Jude 4)

    God is the horn of salvation (2 Sam 22:3)

    Jesus is the horn of salvation (Luke 1:68-69)

    Paul is a slave of God (Tit 1:1)

    Paul is a slave of Jesus (Rom 1:1)

    No man can slave for two masters (Mat 6:24)

    God is the King of Israel (Isa 44:6)

    Jesus is the King of Israel (Mat. 27:42, John 1:49)

    God is a stone of offense and a stumbling block (Isa 8:14)

    Jesus is a stone of offense and a stumbling block (1 Pet 2:8)

    God was valued at 30 pieces of silver (Zech 11:12-13)

    Jesus was valued at 30 pieces of silver (Mat 26:14-16)

    To God, every knee will bow and tongue confess (Isa 45:22-23)

    To Jesus, every knee will bow and tongue confess (Phil 2:10-11)

    Please show me in scripture not your thoughts and/or watchtower theology!

    15 AnswersReligion & Spirituality10 years ago
  • The watchtower inserts the word "other" in Colossians 1:16 anyone know why?

    The say that its implied but when I look up the greek there is no word for other even there.

    6 AnswersReligion & Spirituality10 years ago
  • If I say that on September 1, 2011 the world will end, is that a prophecy or what?

    When ever a JW is asked about predictions/prophecies that the watchtower has given they say we never gave a prophecy. What was it then? If you can look up in history and see that the watchtower has said things would happen then and then denied it what was that how are you any greater then any false religion.

    7 AnswersReligion & Spirituality10 years ago
  • How can Jehovah's Witnesses claim to be the only right religion?

    If JW's make false prophecies but say opps were all men and we make mistakes and the light wasn't bright. The change of doctrines regarding worship of Jesus, and blood transfusion and anything else. But JWs are directed by Jehovah. If the light wasnt bright enough then maybe it aint bright enough know on other matters. What if you woke up tomorrow and found out the light got brighter on who God is and Jesus is God instead or a god?

    5 AnswersReligion & Spirituality10 years ago
  • Do Jehovah's Witnesses know about all the FALSE PROPHECIES their religion has given then covered up?

    •1897 "Our Lord, the appointed King, is now present, since October 1874," (Studies in the Scriptures, vol. 4, p. 621).

    •1899 "...the 'battle of the great day of God Almighty' (Revelation 16:14), which will end in A.D. 1914 with the complete overthrow of earth's present rulership, is already commenced," (The Time Is at Hand, 1908 edition, p. 101).

    •1916 "The Bible chronology herein presented shows that the six great 1000 year days beginning with Adam are ended, and that the great 7th Day, the 1000 years of Christ's Reign, began in 1873," (The Time Is at Hand, forward, p. ii).

    •1918 "Therefore we may confidently expect that 1925 will mark the return of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and the faithful prophets of old, particularly those named by the Apostle in Hebrews 11, to the condition of human perfection," (Millions Now Living Will Never Die, p. 89).

    •1922 "The date 1925 is even more distinctly indicated by the Scriptures than 1914," (Watchtower, Sept. 1, 1922, p. 262).

    •1923 "Our thought is, that 1925 is definitely settled by the Scriptures. As to Noah, the Christian now has much more upon which to base his faith than Noah had upon which to base his faith in a coming deluge," (Watchtower, Apr. 1, 1923, p. 106).

    •1925 "The year 1925 is here. With great expectation Christians have looked forward to this year. Many have confidently expected that all members of the body of Christ will be changed to heavenly glory during this year. This may be accomplished. It may not be. In his own due time God will accomplish his purposes concerning his people. Christians should not be so deeply concerned about what may transpire this year," (Watchtower, Jan. 1, 1925, p. 3).

    •1925 "It is to be expected that Satan will try to inject into the minds of the consecrated, the thought that 1925 should see an end to the work," (Watchtower, Sept., 1925, p. 262).

    •1926 "Some anticipated that the work would end in 1925, but the Lord did not state so. The difficulty was that the friends inflated their imaginations beyond reason; and that when their imaginations burst asunder, they were inclined to throw away everything," (Watchtower, p. 232).

    •1931 "There was a measure of disappointment on the part of Jehovah's faithful ones on earth concerning the years 1917, 1918, and 1925, which disappointment lasted for a time...and they also learned to quit fixing dates," (Vindication, p. 338).

    •1941 "Receiving the gift, the marching children clasped it to them, not a toy or plaything for idle pleasure, but the Lord's provided instrument for most effective work in the remaining months before Armageddon," (Watchtower, Sept. 15, 1941, p. 288).

    •1968 "True, there have been those in times past who predicted an 'end to the world', even announcing a specific date. Yet nothing happened. The 'end' did not come. They were guilty of false prophesying. Why? What was missing?.. Missing from such people were God's truths and evidence that he was using and guiding them," (Awake, Oct. 8, 1968).

    •1968 "Why are you looking forward to 1975?" (Watchtower, Aug. 15, 1968, p. 494).

    You can look these up but you will find one version before the date then once the prophecy was found false the watchtower covered up the mistake.

    10 AnswersReligion & Spirituality10 years ago
  • Why do Jehovah's Witnesses use the same to "Greek or Hebrew" scholars to support their bibles for years?

    Don't you think that if it was accurate that more would have saw it?

    10 AnswersReligion & Spirituality10 years ago
  • Do Jehovah's Witnesses know about all the false prophecies and many revisions of their bible?

    My wife is trying to become a JW and every thing I show her whether its the prophecies and things in the bible she could care less.

    18 AnswersReligion & Spirituality10 years ago