Why has congress not fully acted on Obama's brilliant idea of denying surgeries to those who will die soon?

Question

Were they shamed by Sarah Palin's courageous fight against death panels, despite the mainstream media's complete willingness to carry water for the President and cover up his original words in a NY Times interview:
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Obama: The chronically ill and those toward the end of their lives are accounting for potentially 80 percent of the total health care bill out here.

Leonhardt: So how do you--how do we deal with it?

Obama: Well, I think that there is going to have to be a conversation that is guided by doctors, scientists, ethicists. And then there is going to have to be a very difficult democratic conversation that takes place. It is very difficult to imagine the country making those decisions just through the normal political channels. And that's part of why you have to have some independent group that can give you guidance. It's not determinative, but I think has to be able to give you some guidance. And that's part of what I suspect you'll see emerging out of the various health care conversations that are taking place on the Hill right now.
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http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/03/magazi…

This is only a small section of the interview. I urge you to read all of it. Amazingly President Obama ponders on the wasteful way his grandmother got a hip replacement procedure even though she would die within a year.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=2…

Here is Sarah Palin's recent Op-Ed that reasserted her objections to President Obama's original concept of leveraging monopolistic power a government-run healthcare program to save money by denying services deemed wasteful by appointed bureacrats:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424…

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If we already have them, then why is Obama suggesting them as something new?

PS: Why do you suppose Democrats have voted block selling insurance across state lines---they want insurance companies to be act like a monopoly so they can be the bad guy and justify replacing them with a government-run healthcare monopoly that THEY CONTROL!

Answer 1

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You are something else and i mean what a question and information for all. It is interesting how this was to be insurance and now an overhaul. it is also interesting that they say it is to save people, well if that's right then why the FOUR YEAR WAIT!l It's hogwash.

The lobbyists paid the house and senate members over $3.2 billion* and they will decide what happens. You know what I am talking about the very thing the president said he would stop.

These people are nuts as the prescription drug deal cost over $104 Billion the first year and they had every-ones private information to figure that out. This deal they will not even take the time to have people register at a county health center. By the way if he says 30 million, down from the 50 million, did he take in to mind that those are children also.

the Chips plan was put together covers kids. You can make up to $29,000 and two kids are covered, $34,000 and three are covered. So just figure how many single women out there might be making $19,000 with four kids and they are all covered. my point is that the 30 million may only be 4 million, but DAH they don't check.

Anyone of his deals will "break the bank" and they know it. Funny how the Demos block things. You know they 'blocked" the amendment the Republicans wanted for a person to get the insurance to show proof they they are a legal resident, wonder why?

Keep up the good work and post more.

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*opensecrets.org (put in your senator or rep in the search engine on the right and see how much they took, from whom and how they voted).

Answer 2

You already have death panels. They are called insurance companies and drug companies. When you need the insurance after paying for it for years they suddenly deny you treatment and then the drug companies charge you so much that you can't afford the drugs.

Answer 3

Private insurance companies already deny care.

Answer 4

They know no shame. Good question. http://uquaifa.notlong.com

Answer 5

OMG Obama is a sick bastard! Thanks for the link!

Answer 6

Who do you think is in control of your healthcare now? You don't think it's bureaucrats? You don't think there's "rationing?" Unless you're paying cash for all your healthcare, your insurance company is making those calls, assuming you're lucky enough to have health insurance. The insurance companies are in the business for one simple reason: to make money. They are not accountable to the public.

America has a huge problem. Check out this excellent article from the New Yorker, about healthcare in a Texas town

http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2009/…

Answer 7

My family went through this a few years ago. My mom wanted to refuse the surgery, Dad and the rest of us convinced her to have the operation. She lived several more years and had a lot of pain. Their quality of life was difficult, and mom was a real trooper for hanging on and trying for the rest of us. Eventually she apolotized to me - SHE apologized, and said that she just could not continue on, and died a few months later. My dad has since decided to refuse any such surgery, he does not want to go through what she did.

I so so wish that there had been counseling ahead of time. I so regret that through our ignorance we made poor decisions at the end of her life, convinced her to undergo more pain than she had to.

This is nothing new, a generation ago my grandpa went to a university hospital for cancer surgery, they kept treating him and operating on him although they knew he could not survive because it was such a good teaching tool; grandma had never got past 8th grade, back then, she didn't know better, she thought they were going to cure him. She did not have enough information.

How DARE you try to stop the health care industry, insurance companies, from being forced to pay for this sort of counseling. Shame on you.

Answer 8

The insurance companies are regulated at the STATE level.
If they are allowed to be sold across state lines - that whole regulatory system collapses.
THAT is the Reason Republicans are pushing it - it is a big gift to Insurance companies.

Answer 9

I can see by some of the answers you are getting people just aren't getting it----not at all......gosh you laid it all out there plain and simple-----I hope it does not take a mass tragedy to lift the scales from the people eyes that they might see.----Thank You for sharing your eloquent research-----let this beacon of light show even just a few more the way to the truth.

Answer 10

New world order they do prefer we pay interest to bankers than to surgeons.

I have heard same here by Attali an Illuminati who give advices to Sarkosy

We may resume :after 65 years old no chimio therapy or artificial kenny.

Care you future health insurance the management do remain in the hands of proffessionals ,workers and bosses and not be deturned by politicians or MASONS......
I have been here administrator at our social security for retirement departement you cannot imagine how this cheese attrackt the rats
and have had to fight them like to day in my chickenpin....