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Can Texas secede from the US?

Just Curious >:). Because if a certain senator becomes pres...... How would TX secede?
  • 1 year ago
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From The People of Texas

We Texans love y'all, but we'll have to take action if Obama wins
president over McCain. We'll miss you too.

Texas has given all those complainers plenty of time to get used to the results. After seeing the whiners along the campaign route, the folks from Texas are considering taking matters into our hands.

Here is our solution:

#1: Elect Barak Obama President of the United States. (All 49 states.)

#2: George W. Bush becomes the President of the Republic Of Texas.

So what does Texas have to do to survive as a Republic?

1. NASA is just south of Houston, Texas. (We will control the space industry.)

2. We refine over 85% of the gasoline in the United States.

3. Defense Industry. (We have over 65% of it) The term "Don’t mess with Texas," will take on a whole new meaning.

4. Oil - we can supply all the oil that the Republic of Texas will need for the next 300 years. Yankee states? Sorry about that.

5. Natural Gas - Again we have all we need and it's too bad about those northern states. John Kerry will figure a way to keep them warm....

6. Computer Industry - we currently lead the nation in producing computer chips and communications: Small places like Texas Instruments, Dell Computer, EDS, Raytheon, National Semiconductor, Motorola, Intel, AMD, Atmel, Applied Materials, Ball Semiconductor, Dallas Semiconductor, Delphi, Nortel, Alcatel, Etc, Etc. The list goes on and on.

7. Health Centers - We have the largest research centers for Cancer research, the best burn centers and the top trauma units in the world and other large health planning centers.

8. We have enough colleges to keep us going: UT Texas, A&M, Texas Tech, Rice, SMU, University of Houston, Baylor, UNT, Texas Women's University, Ivy grows better in the south anyway

9. We have a ready supply of workers. (Just open the border when we need some)

10. We have control of the paper industry, plastics, insurance, etc.

11. In case of a foreign invasion, we have the Texas National Guard and the Texas Air National Guard. We don't have an army but since everybody down here has at least six rifles and a pile of ammo, we can raise an army in 24 hours if we need it. If the situation really gets bad, we can always call Department of Public Safety and ask them to send over a couple Texas Rangers.

12. We are totally self sufficient in beef, poultry, hogs and several types of grain, fruit and vegetables and lets not forget seafood from the gulf. And everybody down here knows how to cook them so that they taste good. Don't need any food.

This just names a few of the items that will keep the Republic Of Texas in good shape. There isn't a thing out there that we need and don't have.

Now to the rest of the United States under President Obama: Since you won't have the refineries to get gas for your cars, only Mr. Kerry will be able to drive around in his 9 mile per gallon SUV. The rest of the United States will have to walk or ride bikes.

You won't have any TV as the space center in Houston will cut off your communications. You won't have any natural gas to heat your homes but since Mr. Kerry has predicted global warming, you will not need the gas.

Signed, The People in Texas

Have a nice day!

  • 1 year ago
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G.W. Bush for President of Texas, yeah right. That douche bag is just a damn puppet like Obama. You see the problem with some of you people is you play into the left/right paradigm crap. Exactly what the elite who really run this country want you to do. Ron Paul for President of Texas, nuff said.

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Here is a quick way to sum up our 2 party system. Republicrat, one party, one vote, no choice. The only true republican, Ron Paul, was blacked out by the media because he sticks to the constitution. The media is so fake and controlled. They brainwashed the public to support that judas goat Obama.

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I support the proud texans out there. I, myself, am a Texan, but also a British defector. But this intrigues me! First of all; I don't think GW Bush should be the president of this state or future country. He did a horrible job and even the republicans; his original supporters, hate his guts.

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And with good reason, too. I agree with you on everything else, though, you apparently know your stuff. The US sure will be sad to lose a star, lol! Oh well, they can just adopt puerto rico or something.

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Ron Paul for President of Texas! Sorry if I'm a little burned out on W. Ron Paul is today's Sam Houston.

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The only thing that's going to suck is all the pesky illegal immigrants from the United States. I recommend we start working in a wall between us and New Mexico.

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Morons!! We don't give a hoot if you secede or not-- :P

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course considering that petty much all of your democratic residents will leave, and half of the republicans, and NASA, The Oil industry, And all your weapon manufacturing companies will relocate to the united states, and their are NASA buildings EVERYWHERE i know people who work in baltimore in NASA

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Many of those computer chip companies aren't headquarted in Texas, they just have offices there. While Austin does have a mini-Silicon Valley, it's obvious there would be a mass exodus of those companies when they get wind of the ridiculous notion of The Republic of Texas. Abandon us if you must.

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Another problem with your theory... NASA is owned by the government, IF Texas were able to secede (which there are actually quite a few arguments that it can't because it gave up that right while joining the nation, there's a clause that says it can break up into 4 separate states, not secede)...

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you'd lose NASA (the base would be shut down), the hospitals and public schools would lose all gvt. funding, the military bases would be shut down, your soldiers would still be under contract with the US... basically, all the stuff you're bragging about belongs to or would be nothing without the US.

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Texas did secede in 1861, and they got their butts kicked in the civil war. After what GW Bush did to the United States the past 8 years, I hope they do leave.

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Riiight... If Texas became independent, you would loose American military presence. You would lose about 30% of you population because democrats would move out (say good bye to Houston and Austin). Texas doesn't launch anything. The Houston Space center can be relocated to anywhere.

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Also, there's no way in hell America would let that oil go. Since an independent Texas means no military, then you would have no negotiation power. Say good bye to your off shore oil wells too.

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If Texas seriously was stupid enough to try and secede from the US, they'll just come crawling back in a matter of a few years. Your national industries that you boast WILL leave you and relocate to other states. You'll be like friggin' Mexico.

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Oh I just can't seem to stop... and you keep boasting about the instant army you could raise. WTF are you dinky *** shot guns going to do when you've got a ICBM's aimed in your direction. Guns don't win wars, unless your fighting in the 1800's.

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All your colleges suck, so it's not really that great of a reason.

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NASA and most resource-based industry (oil) is funded by the federal government. Good luck funding it entirely by yourself. Most of the companies you mentioned headquartered in Texas are still American-based corps, y would they leave too? Also, i doubt the feds allow a peaceful secession

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Be serious. Secede? Every company located within your boundries would have to decide if they wanted to be a US company or not. You would lose your funding for highways, colleges, no more mail delivery, military, your airlines, no currency, nada. All those companies listed would leave. Sheesh.

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1. All you none Texans can get lost. We will make up our own minds.
2. We don't give a damm about whether or not we can legally secede. The ONLY question is: If some of us are willing to die to help Texas become an Independent Country, are you willing to die to prevent us from doing so?

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first of all I would like to say im from texas and love it, however for all those haters of obama, believe it or not, not everyone in Texas is a republican (shocking i know), and as for hating obama yes it is your right to say what you want but you lost the election get over it. Obama is president w

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with or without your approval. And as for this whole your with us or against us attitude, I think you're just making yourself, as well as the rest of us Texans look dumb. I don't understand why you can't handle one democratic president, you had eight years and you can't stand to wait four to vote?

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It isn't about having 8 more years, it's about a President who has sworn to protect & defend a Constitution that he has stated publicly, "is inherently flawed. He has set a path to further destroy the economic & security of our Country & has been actively eroding our place in world leadership.

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I know that this thread is months old but I have to make one correction to Parker:
"... We don't have an army..."
I support all of what you say, but I want to correct a misconception. Texas does have an army, navy, and air force called the Texas State Guard. Look at www.gotxsg.com.

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You are so fuking retarded. Your lists of reasoning blows. Don't ever post again you dumb piece of ****. You really think that just because NASA is in texas that the US will just give it to them? you act as if NASA is not owned by the whole united states of america.

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same goes for everything else you posted. as for texas having 65% of the defense or whatever, I'll be surprised if the texas government would even be able to have 1% of texans fight against their own family and friends. If texas doesnt want to collapse, they will and never secede.

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People from California must be big douches about this because they wrote all kinds of letters begging him to secede. Of course there were letters of the same sentiment from elsewhere in the country, but the article I read featured mostly California-based ones. Chances are they'd be douchebags anyway

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My dad used to have some old Texas tender from the Republic days he kept in a cigar jar. It's possible for us to finance our ownselves w/o the CRIMINALS in the Federal Reserve. As for the coporations not sucking the blood of the people, I can't say I'd miss it. Good bye, good riddance.

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"1. NASA is just south of Houston, Texas. (We will control the space industry.) "

What about the other NASA sites in Florida, Alabama, New Mexico, and California?

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Of your computer list: Intel HQ is in California. Raytheon HQ is in Massachusetts. Motorola HQ is in Illinois. Delphi HQ is in Michigan. National Semiconductor is in California. Applied Materials HQ is in Califorinia. Nortel is a Canadian company. Atmel HQ is in California.

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Other computer companies that are NOT in Texas: IBM (NY), Apple (CA), Microsoft (WA), Oracle (CA), Hewlett Packard (CA), SUN Microsystems (CA), Verizon (NY), Cisco (CA), Sprint (KS), Xerox (NY)

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Natural Gas: According to the 2006 proven reserves, there is as much Natural Gas in Colorado + New Mexico + Oklahoma as there is in Texas. You add Wyoming, Alaska, and the Gulf and we have double Texas. You add the rest of the country and we have almost 4x as much as Texas.

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Gasoline Refining: Texas is the number one refining state, however according to 2005 numbers, #2 Louisiana and #3 California combined refine more gasoline than Texas. Texas does not refine over 85% of the gasoline refined in the USA, the actual number is close to 20%.

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Paper. Largest paper companies in the world: 1. International Paper (TN), 2. Georgia Pacific (GA), 3. Kimberly Clark (TX), 4. Stora Enso (Japan), 5. Proctor & Gamble (OH). There are other large companies not in TX, like Weyerhaeuser in WA...

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Sorry for all the comments - it is just hard to debunk his list with only 200 characters allowed per comment. It has been almost a year since we elected Obama, yet Texas is still a state. I wonder why that is?

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You go Texas. I will be down ASAP to make buy a home. I love that state. The nicest people I have ever met are down there. Please leave the union!

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You go Texas. I will be down ASAP to make buy a home. I love that state. The nicest people I have ever met are down there. Please leave the union!

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  • Lunar_Heart by Lunar_He...
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    texas is the only state that could succeed if it wanted to without a fight

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  • Rolando G by Rolando G
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    They will secede when a weak communist becomes president. OOPS, that might just happen.
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  • Paula by Paula
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    Not "legally."

    It is a common misconception that Texas reserved the right to secede.

    The final resolution sent by Texas to Congress had the "right" deleted.
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  • Ross S by Ross S
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    No such provision is found in the current Texas Constitution[1](adopted in 1876) or the terms of annexation.[2] However, it does state (in Article 1, Section 1) that “Texas is a free and independent State, subject only to the Constitution of the United States...” (note that it does not state “...subject to the President of the United States...” or “...subject to the Congress of the United States...” or “...subject to the rest of the United States...”)

    Neither the Texas Constitution, nor the Constitution of the united States, explicitly or implicitly disallows the secession of Texas (or any other “free and independent State”) from the United States. Joining the “Union” was ever and always voluntary, rendering voluntary withdrawal an equally lawful and viable option (regardless of what any self-appointed academic, media, or government “experts”—including Abraham Lincoln himself—may have ever said).

    Both the original (1836) and the current (1876) Texas Constitutions also state that “All political power is inherent in the people ... they have at all times the inalienable right to alter their government in such manner as they might think proper.”

    Likewise, each of the united States is “united” with the others explicitly on the principle that “governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed” and “whenever any form of government becomes destructive to these ends [i.e., protecting life, liberty, and property], it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government” and “when a long train of abuses and usurpations...evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security.” [3]

    Source(s):

    http://www.texassecede.com/faq.asp
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  • secede texas by secede texas
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    Amen. Secede Texas secede!
    Obama is a socialist. Texans did not vote him into office and I believe we should not recognize him as President. It is time we go back to our roots and represent ourselves as a free and independent state. It is TIME FOR CHANGE and it starts in the "LONE STAR" state of Texas.
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  • Jessa by Jessa
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    You mean Barack Obama or John McCain, who has vice president on his side with an "Alaskan first, Alaska always" motto instead of country first?

    First it's all this news of Sarah Palin being part of the Alaska Independence Party, and now Texas. Should we seceede all 50 states and add another 50 countries to the map and let our chlidren achingly memorise 50 more unnecessary added countries? Hello former United States of America!
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  • 8th Gen Texan by 8th Gen Texan
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    Welcome to my country, The Republic of Texas. If you do not like our politics, you are more than welcome to leave ASAP. My family fought and died for this country. My grand-fathers, I'm sure, are rolling over in their grave. They would never have let a socialist rule their Republic. TEXANS for Ron Paul.
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  • Texastransplant by Texastra...
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    It doesn't matter. It will never happen. To the guy that mentioned having George W. Bush run Texas... great idea... look how far HE got the USA. You are a genius. Why don't you be president of the Independent Republic of Texas you sound about as smart as he is.
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  • mike a by mike a
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    Oh I wish we could, we are the better state, and with Obama as president elect, it made me think about that even more.
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  • George W. Bush-Real Man by George W. Bush-Real Man
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    ALL WE HAVE TO DO IS CUT OFF OIL SUPPLY TO THE U.S FOR ONE DAY AND THEY WILL LET US SECEDE!!!!!!!!
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