Have you read the following info about ACORN voter fraud?

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http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.as
http://www.acorn.org/index.php?id=12439&…

According to these article, the reason behind the voter fraud were several ACORN employees.

They created fake registrations, were found to be committing fraud by ACORN, and were then fired. About a dozen employees.

Even so, law required ACORN to submit even the blatantly fraudulent information, but they flagged the ones that were fake registrations.

And now ACORN is getting flak for this? ACORN did all it could.


Also, there aren't any strong connections between Obama and ACORN:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/05…
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/03…


It's not true that Obama supported ACORN directly. Instead:
"In fact, Obama at one time represented a large coalition of groups that happened to include ACORN, as well as the U.S. Department of Justice and a host of other entities. The legal work was in support of an uncontroversial "Motor Voter" law."

"Smears Contradicted: Obama Organizing Work Was Not With ACORN
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On Friday, the Huffington Post debunked a series of charges made by conservative activists linking Sen. Barack Obama to the community organizing group ACORN. Since then, two additional charges have been flatly contradicted.

Appearing on Fox News last week, conservative media watcher Seton Motley described the ties between Obama and ACORN as follows:

"[Obama] was a lawyer for the organization. He then served his years as a trainer of activists for the organization. And when he was named chairman of the board by terrorist William Ayers to the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, they funneled money to, amongst many other places, ACORN. So there is three stages of relationship with them."

As the Huffington Post noted on Friday, the first accusation -- that Obama was a lawyer for ACORN -- is deceptively vague. In fact, Obama at one time represented a large coalition of groups that happened to include ACORN, as well as the U.S. Department of Justice and a host of other entities. The legal work was in support of an uncontroversial "Motor Voter" law.

The second charge -- that Obama "served his years as a trainer of activists" for ACORN -- has now also been contradicted. According to writer Matthew Vadum, whom Motley has cited, "in 1992, Obama took time off from his new job at Davis Miner to direct ACORN's voter mobilization arm, Project Vote, a hugely successful voter registration campaign... Time magazine described Project Vote in 2004 as 'a nonpartisan arm of the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN).'"

"A third claim made by Motley on Fox -- that Obama was appointed to the Annenberg Challenge "by terrorist William Ayers" -- appears to have been exposed as a smear by a Saturday report on Obama and Ayers published by the New York Times:

'In March 1995, Mr. Obama became chairman of the six-member board that oversaw the distribution of grants in Chicago. Some bloggers have recently speculated that Mr. Ayers had engineered that post for him.


In fact, according to several people involved, Mr. Ayers played no role in Mr. Obama's appointment. Instead, it was suggested by Deborah Leff, then president of the Joyce Foundation, a Chicago-based group whose board Mr. Obama, a young lawyer, had joined the previous year. At a lunch with two other foundation heads, Patricia A. Graham of the Spencer Foundation and Adele Simmons of the MacArthur Foundation, Ms. Leff suggested that Mr. Obama would make a good board chairman, she said in an interview. Mr. Ayers was not present and had not suggested Mr. Obama, she said.'"


Please read the articles and respond with your thoughts.
I do not care if you are republican or democrat. I myself was leaning toward McCain until recently. I'm an undecided voter.

I will choose the best answer to be the one that shows reading comprehension and shows unique perspective.
I'm just tired of the rumors...

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Oh, thank god for your responses. I've been up all night watching youtube videos. One after the other: "OBAMA THIS, OBAMA THIS, NOBAMA, OBAMANATION," and the usual dribble.

All smears, all lies. At times it seems that there are more fake reports than real ones.

My faith in humanity is not completely shot. Thanks.

Answer 1

Best Answer - Chosen by Voters

omi god...someone that actually does research and then bases their response as a result of that research?

What a breath of fresh air: kudos to you!

Answer 2

I was never worried about it, but it is nice to know that there are some smart people out there!

Answer 3

I agree that some over zealous employees are to blame.
Now, registration is one thing.
If you want to vote, you still need a legit ID in order to get into the booth.

Don't let the Republicans use this excuse to stop anyone with the right credentials to vote.

Answer 4

Republicans know they are soundly beat on policy for this election so they will smear in any way possible even if it doesn't make sense. IN about a week we will see a McCain Palin ad that will say "Did you know that Barack Obama knows the cousin of the guy that once ate at the same restaurant and the great great grandson of Fidel Castro?" or something along those lines. They prey on the dumb.

Answer 5

The Haters don't want to hear that ACORN alerted authorities to suspected fraud by contract workers. They don't want to hear that less than 1% of ACORN's registrations are at issue. They don't want to hear that the fraud is committed by lazy workers NOT called for by the ACORN organization.

Answer 6

yes, I have.

Answer 7

Here are the plain simple facts:

Obama's campaign gives ACORN $830 thousand dollars.
ACORN endorses Obama for President
ACORN commits voter fraud in a dozen key swing states.

Everyone ACORN signs up is Democrat
Democratic bail out bill included huge 20% payment to ACORN who's sole purpose is to register Democrats.

ACORN never goes into middle class or wealth neighborhoods where they might find a Republican that's tired of paying taxes. They concentrate all of their efforts on poor inner city neighborhoods full of Democrat voters who want bigger welfare checks and more entitlement programs.

Yes ACORN is not concerned about unregistered Republican voters, only unregistered Democrats.

That kind of sums it up doesn't it.

Answer 8

gee the Huffington post...real unbiased source.

Ayers - in a NYTimes article, Ayers said that he "handpicked" Obama for Annenberg. He was so impressed with Obama that he introduced him to several political power brokers in Chicago and even launched Obama's political campaign in his own living room.

ACORN has been tied to voter fraud for many years now. Obama himself stated that he worked both as ACORN's attorney and as a "trainer" providing guidance to those whose job it was to get voters registered.

BTW...ACORN openly endorses Obama and several news organizations have provided video showing ACORN members refusing to register Reps and using coercion techniques to register people multiple times as Dems.

This isn't a situation where there are a few bad apples registering multiple people now is it? There is legal action in 12 States. Just based on the information taken from Ohio and Nevada, a systematic fraud in which thousands of registrations are fraudulent is just coming to light. The estimation in Ohio is that more than 350,000 registrations are fraudulent, either because the person listed in dead, listed multiple times (one person alone was registered almost 700 times) or isn't a person at all (dogs, cats etc). ACORN has also registered tens of thousands of felons and illegal immigrants who do not have the legal right to vote.

Now you may as why....why would ACORN do such a thing? Because once Obama is made President, no matter how many votes turn out to be fraudulent, he wouldn't be removed. And there isn't enough time to verify all of the registrations. ACORN counts on overwhelming to system to such a degree that even if they have time to get rid of half of the fraudulent registrations there will be no way to get them all. In a state like Ohio where Bush won the seat by a mere 118,000 votes, every vote counts.

If you are an independent, may I suggest some unbiased sources such as The Economist or even the New York Post? The Huffington Post has long been considered so left wing that even liberals are afraid to "go there."

Answer 9

It's a non-issue anyways - the ACORN mess took place during the primaries - they were discharged as soon as the fraud was discovered and didn't do any work during the actual election.

It's an internal Democrat party issue, actually.

Unless the Dems want to repudiate their own candidate now ( highly unlikely), it has no effect on the election.

Answer 10

This is in regard to one state or actually one non profit.
You know what they used to say in Chicago
"Vote early and vote often" geese at least this has little to do with the country in total.
Do we have to go back to brother Jeb's state of Florida voting fiasco with the chads?

Joe( six pack )in Texas: Are you really concerned about entitlement programs or should it be A fiscally sound budget?