I need help with the raw prey model diet.?

Question

I want to switch over to it. What is the differnece between it and the BARF diet? What are recipes? I have a 14 month old golden retreiver. Thanks

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Answer 1

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Prey model (my preference) is based on what a wild dog/wolf would eat in the wild - based on a carnivore, not an ominivore.

The BARF diet is much more complicated and involves a lot of work and can be too much for some people to get their head around. The barf diet involves feeding raw meat but also, mashed veggies and grains, yoghurt, cottage cheese etc

The prey model is based around providing nutrition through raw meaty bones, offal etc alone. You will achieve balance over time by trying to feed as much of an animal as possible but there is no blending veg, grains etc as there is in the barf diet. You simply feed the raw food as is, simple as that.


I feed mine a prey model/raw meaty bones diet and here is an example.
Feeding lamb over a week.
Day 1 a whole lambs neck
Day2 a lambs shoulder
Day3 lamb flank
Day4 lamb meat mince followed by free lambs spine part of bone from butcher
Day5 lambs leg
Day6 lambs tripe and a bone
Day7 lambs liver and kidney plus a lamb bone from butcher.

it has so many health benefits and is so easy to feed.
for more information join the yahoo group called rawfeeding, also a group called rawmeatybones.

I recomend the vet Tom Lonsdales book - Work Wonders, feed you dog raw meaty bones.

The link below leads to an informative site that includes a feeding guide.

http://www.rawmeatybones.com/

I would start by giving your dog a fast day, then start by feeding raw chicken as is(you want to be feeding about 2-3% of her ideal body weight a day), just make sure that the bones you provide are raw and large enough that she has to chew it up properly to eat it.

Remember that the emphasis is on MEATY bones, not just freebies from the butcher, although they are handy for feeding alongside offal. Chicken bones are nice and soft when raw and its a fairly easy protein for them so you shouldnt have any tummy upset from a straight switch. When you first switch would keep her on the same protein for at least a week, before introducing anything else.

Remember nutrition is provided through variety over time.
If you would like any more info please have a look at the groups and the links provided,
you really are doing the best thing you can for your dog.

The site below will help dispell any myths you may have heard and also has some good meal ideas and links,

http://rawfed.com/myths/

Answer 2

http://www.rawfeddogs.net

Here you'll find the biggest differences between feeding BARF, and feeding a prey model diet. Prey model implies just that... you feed the dog 'prey'. No supplements, no vegetable mush, no recipes. Their "recipes" section is, however, quite informative!

I hope this helps! Good luck :D

Answer 3

No veggies no fruit no suppliments. just meat - whole prey.

there are no recipies persay

http://www.rawfeddogs.net/

http://prey4pets.com - meat supplier. Great friendly woman runs the site.

EDIT: Sunshine - yeah take out hand to dog. Simple recipes at its best.

http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/rawfe…

another helpful place.

Answer 4

BARF uses veggies, many prey model feeders don't

I use prey model, dogs are carnivores and need little if any at all vegetable matter, the simply don't digest it.

You start with feeding your dog 2-3% of his ideal weight. If he's overweight, feed him for what he should weigh.

Of that daily amount 80% should be meat, 10% bone, and 10% organ.

Start out with one protein source, chicken leg quarters would be a good start for your dog. Feed that protein source for a week or two before adding in another, and so on.

There really isn't a recipe, have meat, feed dog. Six of my dogs get a good variety, the 7th is taking it slow, she just had beef added to her food for the first time this week. Things inlcuded on the menu are: chicken, game hens, turkey, pork, beef, beef liver, chicken liver, turkey and chicken gizzards, whole rabbit fur and all once in a while, deer during hunting season, beef cheeck, raw eggs shell and all a few times a week, and whole fish. I try to buy in bulk when I can, and look for sales and stock up then.

There are several groups for people wanting to feed raw, on Yahoo there's Rawfeeding and Rawpup, on Livejournal there's Rawdogs, Dogster has a good Raw Diet forum. Here's a good thread to help you get started http://www.dogster.com/forums/Raw_Food_D…

And to dispel some of the myths people on YA are going to tell you http://www.rawfed.com/myths/index.html

Answer 5

Barf has become associated with dr. ian billinghurst and the belief that dogs are omnivores. So many people that raw feed wont say barf or if they do, they explain it, especially if they believe dogs are carnivores.

Prey-model believes dogs are carnivores and therefore only need raw meaty bones to survive.

www.bigdogsporch.com is a very good forum for dog owners looking to start their dog on a raw diet. I was introduced to the idea there and it basically took off.

www.rawfed.com/myths
www.rawmeatybones.com is the vet that advocates the raw prey model diet.

Source(s):

Owner of three raw fed dogs.

Answer 6

Others have given you some great advice and links. I feed my dog and cats (and six puppies) a prey model diet. I usually refer to it more as 'frankenprey' because while whole prey is ideal this is difficult to provide living in suburbia!!

They eat RAW meat, offal and edible bones in the approximate ratio of 80:10:10 - the dog is getting more bones and offal at the moment as she is feeding six puppies. She also gets the occasional left over vegetables from our meals but I have noticed if she eats rice or pasta she will have dandruff within two days. The pups started this week on ground chicken frames and kangaroo mince and will hopefully go to raw-feeding homes.

I would never go back to feeding commercial foods after seeing the health improvements in all of my animals.

Source(s):

Dogs are Carnivores" An article clearly explaining the physiological reasons behind this classification
http://www.thewholedog.org/artcarnivores…
A feeding guide published by Tom Lonsdale, a vet who advocates raw feeding and has been widely published
http://www.rawmeatybones.com/diet/exp-di…
A website debunking some of the many myths regarding raw feeding and bones.
http://rawfed.com/myths