What's with the Paul bashing? When did Paul ever teach a different gospel?

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Gal.1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any bother gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
9 As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.

Any Paul bashers care to show me within the scriptures where Paul didn't teach the Gospel of Jesus Christ?

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I have read both Neo..again no difference in any of the Bible the same truth throughout...please refer me to any scripture you find a disagreement.

Soulful Christ fulfilled the law with the atonement not Paul.

Soulful Christ fulfilled the law with the atonement not Paul.

Soulful Christ fulfilled the law with the atonement not Paul.

Ptah Not a different gospel.

Maurog..That is exactly God's teachings from the begining of time. When do you suppose God encouraged worhiping false gods and idols?

Saafa..LOL because Paul said the time is at ahand and Jesus said many false teachers will say the time is at hand this makes Paul a false teacher??? LOL
Christ atught the time is at hand...He didnt mean the time wasnt at hand but that many false teacher willa gree wiht some truths and still be false teachers...for crying out loud use a little basic understanding!!!!!!

Saafa number 2
Paul says the truth is revealed by the spirit which is exactly with the teachings of Jesus Christ. The word is revealed as truth through the spirit.

Saafa go back and read the webpage again I know truth is revealed by the spirit and some people don't have the Holy Spirit to guide them but some things are simply stupid.

2 Peter 3:
15 And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;
16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.

It this the problem that these are unlearned and unstable who do not understand the teachings of Paul?

freenzy I read the website...let's consider common logic...Is it logical to say because Christ says there will be false prophets who will say the end is near...to mean all prophets who say the end is near are false prophets?
The first two are simply illogical the others need spiritual understanding which there is no point debating.

upsman thanks for the great in-depth answer God Bless!

Thanks CrG I was thinking they might want to back up their talk with some scripture.

Great point skylolo! As Saul he himself persecuted the Christians, He definitely knew what he was getting himself into.

Thanks Rev. Albert and Sandy and all the great Christian responses...Not many answers from those with opposing views...I get one website that isnt even logical.

Problem I agree with you I figured it was some propaganda movement form somewhere, but i must have missed it.

Great answer Michael, He was quite the rascal..nothing like giving people the truth to make them hate you.

ptah While the four books are refered to as the gospels the entire New Testement is the Gospel.

The gospel is not merely a book it is the good news and the revelation of Jesus Christ.

Welcome J D , Lets through these one by one...the first websiteis totally bogus quoting Jesus without refering to scripture.Bases its beliefs on a false history and complete rubish. Jesus ate meat...no doubt about it we can easily move past this one its not reality in any sense of the word.
This website quotes things as fact with NO references simply this is the way it is.
The second website refers to the Apostles and their relationship wiht paul what did rthey think of him ?
Here we have 2 Peter...Surely Peter would be a good person to ask huh?
I refer you to upsman's answer..he quotes the scriptures of Peter.
I also qoted 2 Peter..
2 Peter 3:
15 And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;

16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.

It this the problem that these are unlearned and unstable who do not understand the teachings of Paul?
Next website

Again with the false gospels....What is the point Paul was in agrement wiht Christ so we need to rewrite the gospel and say Paul wasnt in agreement...Read the true word of God it is in total agreement from Moses to John's Revelation....Show me from the word of God.

Answer 1

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Peter says in 2Peter 3:15,16 "Bear in mind that our Lord’s patience means salvation, just as our dear brother Paul also wrote to you WITH THE WISDOM THAT GOD GAVE HIM.
He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do THE OTHER SCRIPTURES, to their own destruction". Peter says that Pauls writings are "wisdom that God gave him". When he says that people distort his writings as they do "the other scriptures", the logical inference there is that Peter considered Pauls writings to be scripture too. Peter was with Jesus day and night for 3 1/2 years. He heard everything Jesus said and saw everything He did. Of the 12, Jesus had 3 that were more intimate, namely, Peter, James and John. When He went up on the Mount of Transfiguration He only took those 3 with Him. Same when He went in the Garden of Gethsemane to pray and when he went into the house to heal Jairus's daughter and at other times. Nobody understood Jesus's doctrine better than Peter did. Peter would never have said those things about Pauls writings if they were not consistent with what Jesus had said.
In Galatians chapter 2, if you read that chapter Paul talks about going up to Jerusalem and meeting with the leaders of the christian church there. This meeting probably occured around 49-50AD. Paul talks about this meeting in Galatians 2:6-9 " As for those who seemed to be important—whatever they were makes no difference to me; God does not judge by external appearance—those men added nothing to my message.
On the contrary, they saw that I had been entrusted with the task of preaching the gospel to the Gentiles, just as Peter had been to the Jews.
For God, who was at work in the ministry of Peter as an apostle to the Jews, was also at work in my ministry as an apostle to the Gentiles.
James, Peter and John, those reputed to be pillars, gave me and Barnabas THE RIGHT HAND OF FELLOWSHIP when they recognised the grace given to me. They agreed that we should go to the Gentiles, and they to the Jews". Again, Peter and John knew the doctrine of Jesus inside out because they were with Him day in and day out for 3 1/2 years. James was the natural brother of Jesus and the head of the church at jerusalem, so he also knew what His brothers doctrine was even if he hadn't accepted Christ while he was on earth. These guys would have never given Paul 'the right hand of fellowship' if he was preaching a different gospel than Jesus.
Also in Acts Chapter 15 Luke tells us that Paul and Barnabus were having trouble with some jews who wanted to accept Christ and yet maintain the Old Testament rules of worship. So they set up a meeting in Jerusalem with the other leaders of the church. Acts 15:4 says "When they came to Jerusalem, they were welcomed by the church and the apostles and elders, to whom they reported everything God had done through them". The leaders of the church would not have welcomed heretics.
After much discussion about this dispute, Peter gets up and takes the side of Paul and Barnabus. He says this in Acts 15:7-11 "After much discussion, Peter got up and addressed them: "Brothers, you know that some time ago God made a choice among you that the Gentiles might hear from my lips the message of the gospel and believe.
God, who knows the heart, showed that he accepted them by giving the Holy Spirit to them, just as he did to us.
He made no distinction between us and them, for he purified their hearts by faith.
Now then, why do you try to test God by putting on the necks of the disciples a yoke that neither we nor our fathers have been able to bear?
No! We believe it is through the grace of our Lord Jesus that we are saved, just as they are."
The next thing that happens is that James(the leader of the Jerusalem church) gets up and gives the final decision in favor of Paul and Barnabus. Then the church sends 2 disciples (Judas and Silas) back with Paul and Barnabus to Antioch with a letter to the churches back there. The letter said this: "The apostles, the elders, and the brethren, To the brethren who are of the Gentiles in Antioch, Syria, and Cilicia: Greetings.
Since we have heard that some who went out from us have troubled you with words, unsettling your souls, saying, 'You must be circumcised and keep the law' ––to whom we gave no such commandment––
it seemed good to us, being assembled with one accord, to send chosen men to you with our beloved Barnabas and Paul,
men who have risked their lives for the name of our Lord Jesus Christ.
We have therefore sent Judas and Silas, who will also report the same things by word of mouth.
For it seemed good to the Holy Spirit, and to us, to lay upon you no greater burden than these necessary things:
that you abstain from things offered to idols, from blood, from things strangled, and from sexual immorality. If you keep yourselves from these, you will do well. Farewell".
The leaders of the church in Jerusalem, who were all Apostles, would never have said those things about Paul and Barnabus if they were not preaching the same gospel as they were. The idea that Paul and Barnabus taught a different gospel than Jesus is Nonsense.

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I didnt hear from many Paul bashers, a couple of Muslims, but many great Christian responses.

Answer 2

Read the OT, then read Paul's NT... nuff said.

Answer 3

Paul did his best to separate Christianity from Judaism.

Answer 4

No kidding! (Paul was talking about "the wolves in sheep's clothing", the cults that distort The Truth!) I like your avatar by the way!

Answer 5

Paul gave instruction on how to build an organization. I don't remember any of that in the Gospel's red letters.

Edited to add: "Ptah Not a different gospel."

The gospels are the first 4 books of the NT. Jesus' words are printed in red, in red letter editions. Paul wrote epistles not gospels.

Answer 6

Paul bashers are usually those who are most ignorant of scripture....Paul taught that which ia very consistent with all of Scripture....and his writing is inspired by the Holy Spirit....no wonder the anti-God people hate him.

Answer 7

I don't know where this is all coming from. Did someone just write a book, or was there some pseudo documentary.???

Answer 8

2 Corinthians 6:14-17

Does that look like what Jesus taught?

Answer 9

But...but...but if we say Paul taught something different than Jesus that means Jesus said sexual immorality was okay. See? See how Paul corrupted the teachings of Jesus?

End sarcasm.

2Ti 4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;

2Ti 4:4 And they shall turn away [their] ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.

Answer 10

I'm not a Paul basher, but I expect it's because he was very clear and also not PC by today's standards. It must be terribly annoying to keep bumping up against his teaching when trying to promote a particular social agenda. He didn't even accommodate us by being ambiguous, the rascal!

peace

Answer 11

Jesus vs. Paul

http://www.voiceofjesus.org/paulvsjesus.…

enough said!

Answer 12

I just praise the Lord for all our brothers in the New Testament who were ONE with the Lord and a continuation of the New Testament Ministry that the Lord began. The apostles were the Lord's continuation...His increase, His way to spread. Brother Paul, like John and Peter, the main writers in the New Testament all saw one thing. Christ and the Church... and they gave their all and were utterly spent for this.

We would do well to care for all those that the Lord blessed as gifts to the Body. Paul, like Peter and John was ONE with the Lord. He had no hidden agenda.. Those who seek to defame our brother are simply tools of the enemy and should be ruled out as divisive.

We have so many healthy patterns in the New Testament and our brother Paul is one of our best.


In Christ
sandy

Answer 13

The problem many have with Paul stems from traditional interpretations, IMO.

When studying the Bible, one must take into consideration the culture of the people at the time of the writing and what the specific writing was meant to accomplish. This is not done with in regards to Paul; people misinterpret Paul's epistles as being doctrine for all time, when they are actually historical in nature. Paul was writing to specific Christian churches with specific problems, at a specific time in history, with a specific problem.

Take, for example, Paul saying women should keep silent in church. Paul was addressing two issues: The unruliness of the Church in Corinth and the Jewish temple law. This teaching is not meant to be doctrine for all time; it was an admonition for an orderly service and for the Jewish woman to exercise obedience to Temple law. We are not under Jewish temple law anymore, so this epistle is purely historical in value...just like the OT books 1 and 2 Chronicles (as examples).

dj, you may of may not agree with this, but these are my feelings on the subject. :)

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dj, you should really take a look at Safaa's link. It's quite interesting.

EDIT again:
Sorry, didn't know you looked at it already. Perhaps I should take a closer look. I didn't see what you are referring to. :)

Answer 14

The dissident anti-Christian forces in this venue love to push your button. Don't get sucked in. They are bashing Paul and attempting to spread half truths because the devil in them think it is amusing to see how they can cause you to get all worked up. Beware of false teachers.

Answer 15

DJ ,I would remind your respondents that it was the Lord who appeared to Saul/Paul and it was Paul who laid down his life for God .Need I say more?

Answer 16

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http://www.essene.org/Yahowshua_or_Paul.…

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