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Muslims, Without Muhammad there is no Islam?

If you remove Christ from Christianity you have Judaism Christians waiting for the Messiah...Still with the Torah as the word of God..and all of the words of the prophets.
We would still have the prophesies of the coming of Christ from Moses, David, Abraham, Isaiah,
Interesting how without Muhammad and the book he brought there could be no Islam...Does all truth in Islam come through just one imperfect man?

Is there no evidence of the Allah in your Qu'ran existing before Muhammad?
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I'm there also Kev thanks.

2 years ago

Wind, I'm fairly informed ..so your telling me My God is Your God right and you would then accept the atonement of Jesus Christ Or you would reject Christ and wait for a differnt Messiah?

2 years ago

Edge, Christian answerers are always welcome I am Christian I direct this to Muslims to get their attention. I completely agree with you it is obvious to Christians they are different gods.

2 years ago

cuh without Muhammad...there is no reference o the Allah you say is the same god this is my point. If they were the same then surely you would be a Christian or a Jew without Muhammad's book...thie very interesting thing here is this is not the same God and you would have to worship a different God..There is no evidence of Allah before Muhammad.

2 years ago

Sunshine then you must surely agree with me all truth of Islam is through one man...there is no evidence of Islam but through Muhammad?

2 years ago

Sah, So you are saying wihtout Muhammad and the Qu'ran you would simply folow the words of the previous prophets...like say Moses who gives you Abraham and Isaac and the prophsies of the coming lamb of God that atones for sin,,,Isaiah who says the Messiah wold be as a lamb and atone for the sins of his people...or would you be Jew and reject Christ as Messiah and wait for another? You surely could not be Muslim..There is no prophets words that agrees with Muhammad.
There is no evidence of Allah before Muhammad.

2 years ago

ok rzar..the Bible is the word of Allah..so you would then be a Chrisitan accepting the atonement of Chrsit or a Jew waiting for another Messiah...There is nothing to do with an Allah in this book...it would definitely be another god would it not?

2 years ago

Mr. Pop Muslims keep refering ot qa non existant gospel...where are you going to learn about it wihtout Muhamamd? we have the scriptures we have...If you take Muhammad away you cant amgicly add another book..My point here is wihtout Muhammad and his book you have no ALLAH which is unusual because Muhamamd did not invent Allah did he? Why isnt there evidence of Allah before Muhamad not simply an idea of some Islam that there is no record of????

2 years ago

No Cyber, apparently you havent read the Gospel...No christians are waiting for Muhhammad Chrisitans are not waiting for the Holy Spirit we received it already.If you say you would follow the Gospel you would have to say you were going to accept the atonement.

2 years ago

Winds no offense but if you do not believe in the God of Abraham ...It leads me to believe your not gonna really grasp my question....have you read the Bible and the Qu'ran or are you simply forming an opinion on the things you have heard?

2 years ago

Thanks ordinary I understand Islam teaches this is the same God...Yet it does beg the question without the Qu'ran and Muhammad could there be Muslisms? hard to see how the God of the Bible is the same God...You pretty much have to accept the atonement if you follow the gospel.. or reject Christ as Messiah if you choose to disregard the Gospel..but none of this is inline with the teachings of Islam..Muhammad's God claims Christ and the gospel...
so that leave then accepting the atonement...which is totally contray to the Allah of Islam...so is there scriptural evidence that Allah existed before Muhammad??? I cant seem to find any
I will allow you to draw your own conclussions.

2 years ago

so not bruce....How without Muhammad...do you know how incorect everything is? I gave you an example of Christians without Christ...simply Judaism waiting on the Messiah we continue wiht the available scriptures the Torah and the prophets following the teachings the same waiting for the Messiah to Come which we as Christians recognize as Jesus Christ...Now I ask you to do the same...Without Muhammad there is no Quran...You are left with the Bible..Which lead s you to follow an entirly diffrent religion..differnt God.
Can you say everything remains the same..just waiting for Muhammad? Nope you following Christ teachings in the Bible...you are accepting the atonement ...see waht I am saying...different God...definitely not Allah huh?

2 years ago

Again I think my point is clear the true God of Abaham did not leave his truth to one man. The Gospel is a continuation of scripture not a new different word of God. God is still in agreement with God...Try this with the Quran...different God differnt truth differrnt word of God...
I'm telling you without Muhammad Allah seems to disapear,,, definitely in scripture.

2 years ago

Shreen, I am sure you are raised Muslim and it is dear to your heart.
God gave his name many times in scripture and it is not Allah.
I encourage you to seek God and seek his truth with all of your heart. My question is to lead others not to accept simply what a man teaches but to ask God to reveal his truth to you. May God Bless You In Your search for truth.

2 years ago

We know that Allah says he is the God of Abraham. We know that Allah says The Torah and Gospel are his word.
We know in 6:115 Allah says his word can not be changed,
We know that Allah tells Muhammad if he has doubts to speak with those who read the previous scriptures 10:94
We know that Allah tells you to say to the people of the book we agree with the revelation handed won to you...Your God is My God,
Now if this book does not exist how do the people of the book exist and how are you going to agree with their revelation?
If this Allah is not my God why does he say he is?
If this Allah does not exist in any word of God before Muhammad why not?
How is it the only truth is all of Islam is form one man?
Was there no Allah before Muhammad?

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trustee, these do not refer to Muhammad and rather than take each one apart I will give you God's instructions for testing a spirit and testing a prophet...Now If Muhamma dfails these it seems clear these can not refer to Muhammad.

2 years ago

You must surely agree If Muhamamd does not qualify as a prophet of God theres really not much sense in God anouncing his coming right?

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Deut.13: 1 If there arise among you a prophet, or a dreamer of dreams, and giveth thee a sign or a wonder,
2 And the sign or the wonder come to pass, whereof he spake unto thee, saying, Let us go after other gods, which thou hast not known, and let us serve them;
3 Thou shalt not hearken unto the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams: for the LORD your God proveth you, to know whether ye love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul.

A prophet of God must be in agreement with the words of the prophets and the known word of God.
i woont pst all of the tings that proves Muhammad is not a prophet of god I did that on my oter question and its simply too long...but I'm sure we can agree Muhammad is not in agreement with the word of God and the prophets of God and to make it obvious I will give you the scriptures that refer to beliving in Jesus as the Son of God.
1John 2: 22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist,

2 years ago

We will cut it short right here we know Muhammd denied Jesus was the Son of God...bang games over Muhammad can not be a prophet of God according to the word of God that was available to him. This should eliminate the cut and paste of all those prophsies that you believe refer to Muhammad.

2 years ago

Now that we have established without a doubt Muhammad was not in the Bible and the words of the Bible are not Allah.
I again say Allh does not pre-exist Muhammad in ANY scripture, If Allah existed before Muhammad there is no scriptural evidence to support it.
So again I ask the original question
Without Muhammad does Islam exist?
Does all truth in Islam originate with one imperfect man?

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Sunshine I wasn't asking for opinions..nor Muhammad's take on this because if you tell me what Muhammad tells you then you prove my point there is no Allah without Muhammad.
Is there any scriptura evidence that syas Islam existed before Muhammad or any prophet before Muhamamd ever was Muslim...If your ead the true words of the prophets thay disagree wtht Muhammad and the Quran. again it doesnt count to say in the Quran because the Quran is passed through Muhammad...How do you know that Islam was practiced before Muhammad? Is there scriptural evidence of this? If I said Muhmmad invented Allah could you prove ot me that he didnt with scriptural evidence that existed before Muhammad?
Or is it as I believe all the truth of Islam and the religion is only passed through this one man? If there was no Muhammad could you do as Christians now do and follow the words of the prophets of God in scripture? Could you belive the words of Jesus in scripture?

2 years ago

If not I think it fair to say there is no evidence that Allah existed before Muhammad.

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Sterchen, Exactly we see Christians without Chist would still be following the same God the same scriptures agreeing wiht the same prophets and not calling their words corrupt this demonstrates that the gospel is a continuation of previous scripture and our God is the same God of Abraham.
The Qu'ran makes the same claim it is a continuation of the Gospel...yet Muslims wouldnot be able to agree wiht the Gospel and remain Muslim...Allah say he is this God of the Gospel...If this is true Muslims could follow the God of the Gospel and the word of the Gospel...It is my conclusion this can nto be the same God If Muslism cna not worship this God through these scriptures...It is evident there is no scriptures to demonstrate Allah is the God of Abraham before Muhamamd, there are no scriptures that even proves Allah existed before Muhammad.

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Allah is NOT Yahweh, despite what one thinks. Allah's teachings are quite different from Yahweh's, and if you did not know, Muhammad's movement came to overthrow the pagan gods of Arabia that existed before his concept of Allah. One of them was a moon god named Allah, so Muhammad introduced an all knowing god named... oh wait.
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The God of Abraham aI worship has a history of prophets and scriptures dating back to Moses..seems to me if I follow Allah god of Abraham..I prety much have ot wait for Muhammad,,,doesnt seem this God existed before his prophet. How could that be? Wonder why?
Jesus said after him there are false prophets.

So Muhammad must be one of the bunch...

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Yes The Bible does speak of Muhammad. Jesus warned of antichrists..He even said I come in my Father's name and you receive me not but another wil come in his own name him you will receive.

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  • Precinct 1099 by Precinct 1099
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    Allah was called something else.Try the Ramadan section, thats where they all hang out now.
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  • Still_Standing by Still_St...
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    ...Please go an become more informed about Islam.
    All three, Judaism, Christianity, and Islam, are Abrahamic Religions, meaning they ALL date back to Abraham's covenant with the SAME God/ Yaweh/ Allah. The three are one and the same. The traditions stem from one another, and the people have different ways of worshipping and different prophets. Remove Muhammed, and the Muslim tradition can be dated back to Abraham, too.

    To Clarify: I'm not Muslim. I'm pagan. So no. My Gods are not your Gods. And I cannot accept Jesus. Thanks for trying. But the God of Abrahamic traditions is the same.

    And again: Converted from Catholicism and have studied world religions in some depth. So yes, I am more than familiar enough with the Bible.
    Not believing and not understanding are vastly different things.
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  • cuhhraazee by cuhhraaz...
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    and yet, here they are...
    Islam's the 2nd biggest religion on earth :)

    and fyi...
    Allah=God

    the same God that Christians and Jews worship...
    Allah is just an arabic word for God.

    Arabic Christians say Allah as God.

    (edit)
    i know that, hehe :)
    just saying...

    (edit) to the person below me...
    believe whatever you want to believe...
    there is only ONE God.
    and ONE God who created all of us.

    i'm sorry, if it seems that i'm ranting on... x)
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  • Edge by Edge
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    Was just going to star the question and move on since I am not muslims. But I just need to say to the posters above me. The Christian God is not the muslim god. They are not the same God. The Christian God is real. The muslim god is not.
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  • Sunshine by Sunshine
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    No, it's not about Muhammad, it's about the religion as a final message to the world.

    God had sent many messangers in the past, and Muhammad was chosen to be the final. Whether it was him or any other person, the message of Islam is meant to be the final message, that's all that there is to it.

    Edit:

    No, Islam is the message that's been sent all through out history. Every prophet that has been sent to earth carried the same message, and the message has been corrupted in one way or another, then a final prophet was chosen to bring the message and have it protected from any sort of coruption.

    It's hard for some to believe that fact, but all the prophets have come with the same message.

    If you mean that Muhammad came with the message of Islam and made it up in his own way, then no, that's not true.

    Peace.
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  • sah by sah
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    First off, Muslims, Jews and Christians, they all believe in the same God. Muslims believe in Jesus and Moses and other like them, but they interpret them as prophets of God whose original message was lost over time. God sent Muhammad as his last prophet, and Islam deemed to be the perfect religion.
    If you go deeper into the teachings of Islam, you'll learn that Muslims believe all prophets before Muhammad to have foretold his coming as it was their duty as prophets.
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  • rzarzrshrp by rzarzrsh...
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    The evidence of Allah existing before Muhammad (pbuh) is in the Bible and the Torah.
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  • Mr.POP by Mr.POP
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    Instead of a founder of a new religion Muslims consider Muhammad(pbuh) as the restorer of the original, uncorrupted monotheistic faith (islām) of Adam, Abraham and others.

    It's the same here. If you remove Muhammad(pbuh) from Islam, then you have Christianity. We do believe Jesus was given the revelation by God(Injeel, the Gospel) and he is indeed an authentic prophet, a messenger and a messiah for the Jews. Before Muhammad(pbuh), there was Jesus. Whosoever followed Jesus during his lifetime will be in heaven according to our believe. And so would be all those who were able to follow his original teachings. When the word of God was corrupted by men who were also perverts than, when it started to get messy.

    The Christianity today is nothing more than a Pauline Pagan myth. The original teachings of Jesus Christ are lost.

    Edit: If you would really like to debate with Muslims and also get a helping hand from fellow Christians, pls join an Islamic forum. I am at the following one:
    http://www.islamicboard.com/

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  • CyberSom by CyberSom
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    If you remove Mohammed from Islam, you have have true chritians waiting for Mohamed to comfirm what Jesus said: That there is one God. The same way, if you remove Christ from Chritianity, you would have People of Judaism still waiting for Jesus to come. See the prefect linkage. Jewish were right on track to accept what Moses brough from the Creator. But when what Moses came: Jesus Chirist, they had to come up with their reasons just to deny Moses' own message. The same way, there were still Jewsh people who accepted Jesus and obviously more others. The train goes on until what Jesus told them came: Mohammed. And just like Jewish, chritians had to create their own reasons to deny his prophesy and worse declare him as God. But there were still good chritians who were anxiously waiting for Mohammed and accepted on his appearance. The train goes on and will still go to end of this universe. Then God will judge those who got off the train and those who hold on to it.

    Think: Mohammed was born fully illetrate, unable to read and write. He was born among pegans who does not have any clue of what Jesus Christ, Moses and other prophets were. And here he is telling the story, bringing the same message, letting the pegans that Jesus was their prophet and he is here to confim what Jesus, Moses, Abraham etc said. Qur'an tells us Allah's message right even before the creation of this univese, before Adam and Eve were brought to this earth and told us what will happen that one day all the people would be infront of Allah and face the Judgment day. Jesus will be asked: O Jesus did you tell them to worship you? He shall say: O Lord, if I tell them, surely you know better than I do. I did not tell them except what you have commanded me to convey. If you panish then, they are your servants, but if you forgive them, then you are the Most Forgiving, the Most Merciful. Look how kind Jesus is. Islam did not just came up from no where. It is the same message over and over and over through the prophets.
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  • greenwich by greenwic...
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    Muslims claim that Allah is the same as the Christian God but they deny Trinity (whom Christians believe is God). The Jews and Christians say their faiths are not compatible with Islam. Islam claims that the Bible and Torah are the first pieces that show Islam could be there, but they say that these documents have been distorted (because it doesn't support Islam). They make lots of presumptions and the begging the question fallacy.
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  • My name is not bruce by My name is not bruce
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    Jesus brought no new religion to the jews. As a whole they weren't practicing their religion correctly. He was basically there to remind them of their religion. Some of them listened and that was christianity. THe jews that followed their religion properly.

    That was basically every prophet throughout history.....just reminding people of gods religion. Some where just for the jews, others were for everyone.

    Eventually christians as a whole stopped following proper judaism (which was then called christianity).......and you get muhammad....just he wasn't there just to remind the christians and jews...but was also there to speak to the pagans.

    If you look..the old testament and the quran are 70% the same. Some of the differences were to purposefully differentiate the other religions. Like how a muslims prays.....if you see someone praying like that..you know they are a muslim..you don't have to wonder if they are a jew or a christian and what type of jew or christian they are.

    The other differences are where muslims will say the old testament was changed by man.

    One example is the OT says the prophet lot slept with his daughters....islam says no..never happened.

    So yeah there is evidence of the same god in pre muhammad...the old T.....needed muhammad to clean up man's changes.
    There is also no islam since its the perfected form of the religion.
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  • upsman by upsman
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    Read the works of Dr. Gary Habermas. http://www.garyhabermas.com/
    http://www.home.earthlink.net/~gbl111/ha…
    He, along with some other scholars, have gone through and surveyed the works of 1200 of the top scholars(textural criticist and historians) worldwide over the last 30 years in 3 different languages(english, french and german) and catergerized what they believed about certain things, namely, did Jesus die on a cross, was the tomb found empty, did the disciples and many others(like Paul and James) believe they had seen Him alive after the crucifixtion, was the christian church built upon the belief that Jesus died on the cross and rose from the dead and many other questions. They read over 2400 books. Virtually 100% said that Jesus died on a cross. Most of these were critics of the christian religion. Habermas wrote a 100 page book that just covered the non-christian sources who lived in that time period who attested to that fact(these were not christians). We have volumes of writings by the church fathers from the first 600 years after Christ that He died on a cross. All of the land which the muslims later conquered by the sword was once christian land and it was conquered not by the sword but by christian missionaries bearing that message that Jesus died on a cross. The idea that Jesus died on a cross is an historical fact. The only historians and scholars who will ever deny that are muslim scholars. About 600 years after Christ, Mohammad comes along and and says "Oh, by the way, that story about Christ dying on a cross....it didn't really happen....let me tell you what really happed". The fact is Mohhammad was just wrong about Christ and the crucifiction. He was wrong, the Koran was wrong. But the muslims say the Koran is from God. Can God be wrong? If the Koran and Mohammad were wrong about Christ and the crucifiction, then islam is wrong since it sits upon Mohammad and the Koran. Therefore, Islam is not the way to God. When you have 600 years of solid historical evidence that Jesus died on a cross, you can't just say...."no He didn't....you know why....because Mohammad says so". You must give some reason to believe that.

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  • shireen a by shireen a
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    It is most unfortunate that though Islam along with Christianity and Judaism is a monotheist faith and believes in One God who it calls Allah and reveres Isa (Christians call him Jesus), Musa (Moses for Jews and others), the tone in which gneral Christian and Jew ask questions from Muslims and on Mohammad is derisive and mocking. It truly is a shame.
    If you beileve in one God and that God has not been named in Torah (actually a book of Moses, later included in Bible and Bible as itself was sent Isa or Jesus is no longer in its original form as it was stated by God), you can not have a doubt whether God clearly named in Mohammad's time as Allah is the same God. The word God is a very general term, it is a term and not a name.It is like saying "She is a human being," where she is not a name and can be used for anyone who is a woman. God is used to describe the all powerful Almighty considered in all religions from Hinduism (which is not montheist) to Christianity. Only in Islam there is a clear name of God. That is the only difference. Christians and Jews called Allah, just God, without any knowledge of His name, Muslims are more specific and call Him by name instead of refering to Him as a genre of power superior to any other existing in the world.
    Muslims are committed to belief that all the men of God mentioned before Mohammad from Adam to Isa are to be revered and were true people who brought forth only God's message to mankind which got corrupted over a period of time because records were not maintained (there is no tomb or any other mark of others from Adam to Isa whereas Mohammad's tomb exists) and people who translated whimsically played with the interpretation and the translations. There is difference in Old Testamen and the New Testamen. Much of the original message was compromised upon because of the linguistic difference.
    In interpretation of Quran, one very crucial aspect which contributed to it remaining as it was brought by Jibriel (Gabriel) to Mohammad was that it was in Arbic, a language still being spoken in many parts of the world and whose translation and interpretation, therefore, can be easily obtained. It is not a dead language unlike Hebrew or Pali.
    Quran contains same stories with minor variations (because both Torah and Bible are not in their original form now, nor is Zaboor or Psalms as widely beileved), Quran talks about Isa being lifted and that he would be brought down once again when the Qayamah (Day of Judgement) comes near. In reality, despite various speculations, there is no grave of Jesus despite all the following and popularity, anywhere in the world. If Jesus died where is his grave? Why were the Christians not able to protect it?
    Though Christians view Muslims with suspicion and Mohammmad with disdain, it is a sin for a Muslim even to doubt the credibility and creditability of Isa. If the Bible does not talk about Mohammad or his coming, it is because we do not know nor will we ever know what it originally contained. The original message and how much of it has been lost, no one at prseesnt has any idea.
    In fact, Christians today have adopted a pagan birthdate of Jesus. His birth was supposed to be around April 17 whereas it is celebrated on December 25 which was given by Roman empire later. If such an important date has been changed through the corridors of history, there is little doubt that a great deal of other things may have also been changed to suit people along the time and their whims. In Islam this is not the case. Dates and records have been mainatained and Muslims feircely protect teh authenticity and originality of Quran. There is a grave of Mohammad and whatever they say is supported by historical evidences.
    As far as the name Allah goes, God, among the three sematic faiths has been named for the first time truly by Mohammad and the Muslim.
    Don't you agree that it is better to have a name for God as well instead of calling Him by the powers he represents?
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  • Trustee by Trustee
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    Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) in the Old Testament:

    The Qur’an mentions in Surah Al-Araf chapter 7 verse 157:

    "Those who follow the Messenger, the unlettered Prophet, whom they find mentioned in their own (scriptures) in the law and the Gospel".


    1.
    MUHAMMAD (PBUH) PROPHESISED IN THE BOOK OF DEUTERONOMY:

    Almighty God speaks to Moses in Book of Deuteronomy chapter 18 verse 18:

    "I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and I will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him."

    The Christians say that this prophecy refers to Jesus (pbuh) because Jesus (pbuh) was like Moses (pbuh). Moses (pbuh) was a Jew, as well as Jesus (pbuh) was a Jew. Moses (pbuh) was a Prophet and Jesus (pbuh) was also a Prophet.

    If these two are the only criteria for this prophecy to be fulfilled, then all the Prophets of the Bible who came after
    Moses (pbuh) such as Solomon, Isaiah, Ezekiel, Daniel, Hosea, Joel, Malachi, John the Baptist, etc. (pbut) will
    fulfill this prophecy since all were Jews as well as prophets.

    However, it is Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) who is like Moses (pbuh):


    i)
    Both had a father and a mother, while Jesus (pbuh) was born miraculously without any male intervention.

    [Mathew 1:18 and Luke 1:35 and also Al-Qur'an 3:42-47]


    ii)
    Both were married and had children. Jesus (pbuh) according to the Bible did not marry nor had children.

    iii)
    Both died natural deaths. Jesus (pbuh) has been raised up alive. (4:157-158)

    Muhammad (pbuh) is from among the brethren of Moses (pbuh). Arabs are brethren of Jews. Abraham (pbuh) had two sons: Ishmail and Isaac (pbut). The Arabs are the descendants of Ishmail (pbuh) and the Jews are the descendants of Isaac (pbuh).

    Words in the mouth:

    Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) was unlettered and whatever revelations he received from Almighty God he repeated them verbatim.

    "I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him."

    [Deuteronomy 18:18]


    iv)
    Both besides being Prophets were also kings i.e. they could inflict capital punishment. Jesus (pbuh) said, "My kingdom is not of this world." (John 18:36).

    v)
    Both were accepted as Prophets by their people in their lifetime but Jesus (pbuh) was rejected by his
    people. John chapter 1 verse 11 states, "He came unto his own, but his own received him not."

    iv)
    Both brought new laws and new regulations for their people. Jesus (pbuh) according to the Bible did not bring any new laws. (Mathew 5:17-18).

    2.
    It is Mentioned in the book of Deuteronomy chapter 18:19

    "And it shall come to pass, that whosoever will not harken unto my words which he shall speak in my name, I will require it of him."


    3.
    Muhammad (pbuh) is prophesised in the book of Isaiah:

    It is mentioned in the book of Isaiah chapter 29 verse 12:

    "And the book is delivered to him that is not learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I am not learned."

    When Archangel Gabrail commanded Muhammad (pbuh) by saying Iqra - "Read", he replied, "I am not learned".


    4.
    prophet Muhammad (pbuh) mentioned by name in the old testament:

    Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) is mentioned by name in the Song of Solomon chapter 5 verse 16:

    "Hikko Mamittakim we kullo Muhammadim Zehdoodeh wa Zehraee Bayna Jerusalem."

    "His mouth is most sweet: yea, he is altogether lovely. This is my beloved, and this is my friend, O daughters
    of Jerusalem."

    In the Hebrew language im is added for respect. Similarely im is added after the name of Prophet Muhammad
    (pbuh) to make it Muhammadim. In English translation they have even translated the name of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) as "altogether lovely", but in the Old Testament in Hebrew, the name of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) is yet present.


    Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) in the New Testament:

    Al-Qur'an Chapter 61 Verse 6:

    "And remember, Jesus, the son of Mary, said, 'O Children of Israel! I am the messenger of Allah (sent) to you, confirming the Law (which came) before me and giving glad tidings of a messenger to come after me, whose name shall be Ahmed.' But when he came to them with clear signs, they said, 'This is evident sorcery!' "

    All the prophecies mentioned in the Old Testament regarding Muhammad (pbuh) besides applying to the Jews also hold good for the Christians.


    1.
    John chapter 14 verse 16:
    "And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you forever."

    2.
    Gospel of John chapter 15 verse 26:

    "But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which
    proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me."

    3.
    Gospel of John chapter 16 verse 7:

    "Nevertheless I tell you the truth; it is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not
    come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you".

    "Ahmed" or "Muhammad" meaning "the one who praises" or "the praised one" is almost the translation of the
    Greek word Periclytos. In the Gospel of John 14:16, 15:26, and 16:7. The word 'Comforter' is used in the English translation for the Greek word Paracletos which means advocate or a kind friend rather than a comforter.
    Paracletos is the warped reading for Periclytos. Jesus (pbuh) actually prophesised Ahmed by name. Even the
    Greek word Paraclete refers to the Prophet (pbuh) who is a mercy for all creatures.

    Some Christians say that the Comforter mentioned in these prophecies refers to the Holy Sprit. They fail to realise
    that the prophecy clearly says that only if Jesus (pbuh) departs will the Comforter come. The Bible states that the
    Holy Spirit was already present on earth before and during the time of Jesus (pbuh), in the womb of Elizabeth, and again when Jesus (pbuh) was being baptised, etc. Hence this prophecy refers to none other than Prophet
    Muhammad (pbuh).


    4.
    Gospel of John chapter 16 verse 12-14:

    "I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now. Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth is
    come, he will guide you unto all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come. He shall glorify me".
    • 2 years ago
  • Sternchen by Sternche...
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    So true. Muslims take Mohammeds word without a trace of evidence simply believing the claim there was a different Torah and Gospel.
    Because of the absence of predictive prophecy in the Koran, we would have to say that the Quran does not give evidence of being able to accurately or fully reveal who God truly is, but instead one must go read the true prophets in the Bible in order to know . We must conclude that "Allah's" true personal name is "YHWH," the God of the Bible. We must conclude Allah never existed as the God of Abraham.
    We can rejects the Koran as revelation from God because the predictive power of God is not present there.
    And you are right if you take away Christ we still follow the true God of the Bible. It is the Bible which can be trusted to describe who God truly is, what he is like, and what his requirements for salvation actually are. He is the one who sets out the challenge for anyone else to foretell the future.
    • 2 years ago

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