Is Allah a righteous God?
Does he merely overlook sin? Do two rights cover one wrong?
Can a sinful man work his own way to perfection? Does Allah owe his creation salvation if they earn it? Is this righteous? If a man does a a sin can he ever make it go away? Seems to be no matter how many so called good deeds you do if you commit a sin it does not go away and you reamain a sinner and for God to agree with your sin or overlook your sin he has become unrighteous calling an unclean thing clean. The true god does not overlook sin he said all have sinned and fallen short and the wages of sin is death. This is proved by the fact that man does die. God had a plan to bring man to his righteousness not overlook man's sin . This way was to pay the penalty of death for man. It is the reason Jesus said no man comes to the Father but through the Son, who did make the way for man to be joined to God.
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E.T. How did you undo your sins? and did this make you perfect? Are you no longer responsible for the sin you did? Now is Allah indebted to you and owes you salvation? Sorry E.T. Your l;ogic is illogical and your god is not righteous if for he calls your sins okay.
3 years ago
lavender, If all sinners will be punished and sin causes death are we not all dead in our sin? Isn't this the reason god came to us in teh form of man to overcome sin and death and pay the penalty?
3 years ago
Ducky the bad things go away??? how can that be that emans i never sinned if I do some good and Allah owes me for the good I do?? Why would your God be indebted to those he created? So if a man does what a man perceives is good he has never done bad? Christ said there is none good but God. We have all sinned and fallen short. god woes us nothing. In his mercy he gives us salvation as he is not in our debt but we in his.
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Sal if he weighs the good with the bad it means sinners will inherit his heavenly kingdom as you yourself admit that he has good and bad. God is totaly righteous he does not allow any bad. Allah aloows some sin which means Allah is not a righteous God.
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سيف الله Giving breaks is not righteous. If a worldy judge suts someone breaks then sinners go unpunished we do not call this righteous though it may be emrciful and yet not so merciful as paying the penalty for you. which si what the true God of Abraham did and he remains righteous as the penalty was paid and he is even more merciful as he paid our debt with his own blood.
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Allah the great...We see by your answer you know a merciful God yet the God of Abrham exceeds Allah's mercy and remains perfect and righteous by paying the debt with his blood. Allah has mercy by overlooking sin, the true God of Abraham remains righteous by demanding the penalty be paid and yet exceeds Allah's mercy by paying the debt with his blood. The god brought to you by Muhammad is not the god that was before Muhammad as his god is not equal in righteousness nor equal in mercy.
3 years ago
Man freedon of choice is a great hing but righteousness has to do with judgement, The God before Muhammad also believed in a man's free will but also requires a penalty for sin and that penalty is death. The god of Muhammad does nto require a peanlty for sin if a man can somehow do more good than bad my point is this is not the righteousness of God that he overlooks sin.
3 years ago
Roshni, I have not forced you to read or to answer my questions. My questions do demonstrate the differences between the god of Muhammad and the God that preceded him. Allah says he is the same God and I am asking if this could be true? I have remained honest in my questions and love to seek Muslims for their answers to what I see is a delema I have never said you could not worship as you see fit but I merely question Allah as the Qu'ran itself does leave these questions open.
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E.T. I apperciate your passion, Why does sin have to be undone? You are making my arguement for me. Allah does not undo or make man righteous he forgives, It is the same as man hired to be a judge overlooking a crime that has been committed because the man has doen other things the judge liked. While this may seem logical to you it is by no means righteous. My question remains is it righteous for Allah to simply overlook sin? Now if you wish to argue he doesnt then all sin must be punished. Now you ask how one man pays the penalty for another and this is it righteous? It can not be any man but the same God who wrote the law did fill the requirement of that law which is death. The law requires that a man be perfect without sin and the wages of sin is death. The reason for this is God remains righteous not joined to his sinful creation. That debt must be paid or God is not righteous. He did choose to pay that penalty for you. It does help us by the fact we accept this atonement.
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Allah the great clearly Muhammad worshiped a new God rather than restored anything missing as we have scriptures that prove the word fo God is intact and did prophesy the coming fo a savior Isaiah 53 intact from 250 BC and Christ was in agreement with the prophesies of Isaiah 53 Jesus himself interprets this passage as referring to him. Jesus said: "For I tell you that this scripture must be fulfilled in me, ‘And he was reckoned with transgressors’; for what is written about me has its fulfilment" (Luke 22:37, RSV). The quoted verse is Isaiah 53:12.
Jesus agreed with the prohesies of Isaiah 53 which predates him and we have written record of it from 250 BC..Jesus was in agreement with the prophets before him and did fufill the prohesies of Isaiah which foretold of him as Savior who would atone for sin with his life.
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Roshni with all due respect you do call Allah a liar. Isaiah foretold of a Savior and the DSS (dead sea scroll do have this intact from 250 BC) Now Allah does say he is in agreement with the Torah and Gospel. the book was his and no man can change his word. Would you plese read the words of the prophet Isaiah and the words of Jesus and see that Muhammad was not in agreement with the god of Abrham and Christ was and cakiming to be this God would make him a lie? and your denying him being this God of the Gospel does make you in disagreement with YOUR Allah.
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E.T. If Christ was a mere prophet you would make sense he could nto atone for sin. Only God can forigve sin. It is in your Qu'ran. Our arguement is nto whether or not Allah forgives sin but is it righteous the method of forgiving sin.
If God requires your life and then pays for your sin with his own blood he remains righteous. How does his atonement free us from our sin? As your quran teaches he ios the only oen who can atone for sin. Both religions agree man sins and only God can fogive sin, You say it is not righteous for God to pay the penalty but attest it is righteous fo god to overlook or agree with sin...this is nto logical it makes God in agrement with sin and not a righteous God. the God who gave you the law can righteously pay the penalty for you..I'm not sure how you see this as evil the peanty must be apid and if you choose to pay it yoruself then youa re dead in yoru sin as youa re not righteous and can not of your own power overcome God's judgement of death. Christ did.
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Roshni..If Paul created the idea of trinity. How do we account for the teachings of Moses...We have man created in the likeness of God having more than flesh but also spirit and the two being one soul. Moses also taught the Tree of life in Genesis. Abrahm named the palace of sacrifice Jehovah-jireh which means the lord will provide because he siad the lord would provide himself a lamb. Isaiah told of a Mesisah who would be a lamb of God and atone for sin. John the Baptist did anounce Behold the lamb of God. Christ did agree as he said he would fufill teh prophesies of Isaiah and said no one comes to the Father but thrugh the Son whic is the reason of teh aotnement he provided.
3 years ago
Lion, Your critisism is accepted though I think it is your own lack of understanding.
You believe God is not righteous? Let's examine Isaiah and consider it with the teachings of all of the Bible. Isaiah 45:7 in it's own context says "I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things."
Notice that by forming light, darkness is created. And so by making peace, evil is created.
It's consistent with saying that darkness is the absence of light, so evil is the absence of good.
When you add to this all of the scripture we can easily see that man is sinful and God is righteous Christ himself said no one is good but God.
teh law comes form God therfore he is above it it is his righteousness that man failed to live up to it is the reason for the atonement.
The Arabic meaning of the word Allah is not a part of my question whether or not Allah means God is irrelevant to whether the Allah of Islam is God.
3 years ago
Shanu, I have missed your misinformed but well intentioned answers :) Muslims insist that Allah is against sin because he has hell. First a Muslims hold grasp teh concept of hell. Hell is a pit or grave and is not the place of eternal torment hellfire, at the end of judgement hell is thrown into the lake of fire. To say Allah is not in agreement with sin because he has hell is ridiculous on so many levels.
first lets agree that Allah has a place of punishment but for who? All Muslims seem ot agree that though a man sins does not mean he will be punished because Allah is forgiving am I correct?
Yes this is the Muslim faith. Allah forgive whoever he chooses, therfore we can agree one need not be perfect to be forgiven, thus Allah does overlook sin. Which is not righteous end of story.
Is the Christian God a righteous God ABSOLUTELY. The true God of Abraham demands the penalty for sin be paid. The true god of Abrham is also forgiving but not in pretending sin isnt sin. cont.
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God dopes pay the penalty for man which is the ultimate in mercy and righteousness. How is it righteous that God kills his own son? A favorite Muslim response because they do not understand.
The answer is Christ is a part of God and he does not kill himself either.
Muslims make the mistake of believing man is flesh, when we are more than simple flesh God is not simply flesh either. the atonement was paid in flesh god is not dead nor is Christ the crucifiction reresents the greatest victory ever won, The victory over sin and death as Jesus was resurrected and the victory belongs to all of us who join in his resurrection as we too shall prevail over death. God was not defeated but did defeat Satan when he overcame sin and death and it was his choice. Understand dear Muslims that the flesh is weak but the Spirit is not and God is and eternal Spirit not simple flesh. When God sacrificed his flesh to pay for the sins fo those who accept the atonement it was that flesh, Cont
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God never died but the flesh was sacrificed. He paid the penalty and overcame the judgement as he himself is righteous and Chrisit was without sin and did overcome the penalty. Christ lives he is not dead the grave could not hold him. So to say that he was punished is wrong as he overcame the penalty as he is righteous. While the death of flesh is horrible to fleshly creatures and I'm sure traumatic to God while he was still in his flesh, God is more than flesh and this is the point to be more than flesh we overcome this sinful flesh and live in spirit and in truth. The crucifiction is not a story of defeat but the story of overcoming sinful flesh sin and death. it is about us becoming eternal creatures reuntited with a righteous and merciful God that Allah can not even begin to compare to. God bless you all thanks for your answers.
3 years ago
Shanu, I think where we misunderstand each other is this, Someone said God can't be all powerful because God can't sin, I tried to explain that the man is confusing God's abilities with his nature. God is righteous it is who he is, His abilities allow him to do anything but his nature is righteous. God is righteousness he does not sin he is perfect and in all things he does he ramains perfect he does not compromise his righteousness, If Jesus had not been perfect we would have no salvation, Had Jesus not been God he would not have been perfect. Christians know the true God and he is righteous and perfect in all that he does when Muhammad came up wioht his idea of God he could not counterfiet God because God was already perfect and the God he invented was not. The reason God could not forgive sins the way Muhammad says is it compromises God's righteousness.It is the reason the only way to the Father is through the Son it is the only way of salvation.
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