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Muslims, Please tell me you are not buying this Gospel of Barnabas?

Is their anything cheesier and more fake it is comical....C'mon...Jesus had a Gospel explaining he is not the Mesiah and he is unfit to tie Muhammads shoe laces hahahaa???? People please tell me your not buying this...How many prophets are sent to say they are not God?
  • 3 years ago

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Actually it wouldn't Troll that is why I asked the Question as a mtter of fact this is where I am getting this from of course........But how could anything be more prefect for them except for they still should be concerned when Jesus is slobbering over some unknown guy that was to be born in 600 years...Hmm denying he is Messiah..and calling Muhammad Messiah....c'mon! Jesus' purpose to ome is to anounce Muhammad and ot say he isnt God....lol

3 years ago

Ysn everyone who calls himself a prophet is not a prophet.

3 years ago

Princess..where did you get the idea I called you a terrorist?

3 years ago

Tenseh...You are correct this question folowed quickly as I did quickly dismiss this as any sort of Gospel for obvious reasons even Muslims should quickly dismiss it as it is not in agreement with the Qu'ran it is not hard to dismiss for Chrisitan or Muslim

3 years ago

Shirk....To me you seem to be a very wise man who has been sold one bill of Goods concerning an all powerful God who is powerless to keep his word pure.The Prophethood of Muhammad is obvious to any Christian or Jew and would have been obvious to any follower of the God of Abraham who requires more than a single witness to proclaim someone a prophet of God. A second witness obviously would not be corrupt scripture and would not be scripture revealed by the alledged prophet...Never in the history of man was a prophet anounced in this way and against the word of God and the previous scripture and the words of the prophets...Christ himself did nto come bearing record of himself...Yopu must surely agree this is not the was the God of Abraham prior to Muhammad revealed his truth...I agree that Muslims are not interested as a whole in these truths it is my hope that one may think for himself and consider we had a God before Muhammad I admit this has proved fruitless thus far....

3 years ago

Shirk Any discussions about the trinity would be based on what? The Qu'ran as all truths of God that are not in agreemtn wiht the Qu'ran are to be considered corrupt...Your idea of the trinity itsel where you say God creating himself is erred as God did not created himself he was before all creation this doctrine of the trinity can be found in his first scriptures the book of Moses....Which is quickly dismissed by Muslims as it does not agree with the word brought from Muhammad....No words of any prophet and no truth of God is to be given any heed that does not agree with the Qu'ran....To me this is a propble that all Truth is revealed only through one prophet who is not revelaed by God.....then you no longer have the word of God but the word of one man....God taught thois wasnot the way to reveal the truth for this reason....If I anounce myself and all truth comes from me....then I can deny all of God's truth and there is no source to even question me as I have all of God's truth

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Djmantx, I as a sincere Muslim, has read some parts of the Gospel of Barnabas. I really can't tell you what I think about its authenticity...but if there is a book that says Jesus isn't the Messiah, then I totally refuse this book; since it contradicts the Koran. The Gospel of Barnabas may have been altered by humans such as the Old Testament and the New Testament.

Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) told us: "Do not trust the people of the Bible (ie Jews and Christians) nor declare them liars."

We must not trust them because their books have been altered and their religious hierarchy has always been corrupt, while the normal Christians and Jews were very ignorant about their faiths and did not even speak the language of the Bible. Also, we should not declare them liars, because the Bible was a heavenly book but was corrupted due to many alterations; therefore many of its words could be correct. Remember that even though it may be apparent that some phrases of the Koran and the Bible may contradict each other, they may turn out to be complementary after all. Nevertheless, we as Muslims follow the Koran and the authentic sayings of the Prophet Muhammad (PBUH). As a Sunni (Ash'ari or Maturidi), I follow authentic sayings of the Prophet (PBUH) mentioned in Sahih Bukhari, muslim, Al Nasa'i, Ibn Hibban, Al Tabarani, Al Hakim, Ibn Majah, Al Tirmidhi, Ibn Hanbal,...etc..I do not need the Bible to guide me; especially that Muhammad's message is the final one. There are myriads of proof regarding the authenticity of the Koran and the true status of Muhammad (PBUH) being Allah's last messenger.

Anyhow, I think your method of discussion is very erroneous. You're trying to challenge the authenticity of the Koran and the prophethood of Muhammad (PBUH); which is impossible for you to do. Besides, no Muslim is ready to listen to you.

I would suggest that you should start speaking to Muslims about what Christianity says about the Absolute Ultimate One Infinite Limitless Transdescent Omnipotent Omnipresent Almighty Creator and what are His Ever-Glorious Attributes. You may start debating with us about Allah's attribute of Power, and whether it is befitting to describe the Creator as being able to create Himself or not...or whether He is able to kill Himself or not...or whether He is able to change His Ever-Glorious Attributes or not...whether some of His Attributes are to vanish or not...or whether He could create another God; greater or equal or inferior to Him or not...etc. This is what Muslims shall be ready to argue with you about, because if you could prove that, then you could prove the possibility of the Creator changing Himself or incarnating Himself in the form of Jesus son Mary (PBUH), that was first an embryo, then a newborn baby, then a child, then a boy, then a youth...who ate, drank, went to the bathroom, knew of things while he was ignorant of many things, how he had a mother, grandparents,...etc

Again, you could discuss with Muslims basic theological issues; such as whether it is possible for the One God to be divisible, or if His Oneness is Absolute,...etc...in order to prove or disprove the trinity.

If you're able to discuss Muslims in such matters...then the discussions will be really enthusiatic. But what you're doing is that you're trying to cite phrases in the Koran with the belief that you've caught errors in the Koran. You remind me of many Christians and Jews who did that to each other; with the result that each of them became more and more stubborn in their beliefs.

Well...I'm waiting for a new style of questions that you'll give us and that will encourage us and enthusist us to respond to your questuions much more eagerly!
  • 3 years ago
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I find you to be a thinking man yet trapped within the teachings of a false prophet..as you yourself admit you have no use for the Bible and the prophets as you have the last prophet and the last word. This proves that meaningful dialog with a Muslim consist only with a truth not revealed until 600

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